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Save The Earth
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sirdroseph
Location: Not here, I tell you wat Gender:
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Feb 18, 2009 - 12:41pm |
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Rod wrote: Exactly! If everyone just made even the smallest effort to tread a little lighter on the planet, to reuse and recycle, use alternative ways of building our homes, we might just have a world where our children's children don't have to wear gas masks to school.
I always love seeing a little flower grow up through cracks in concrete or an asphalt road. It reminds me that long after we are gone, nature will take back and repair all the damage we have done.
You see you wouldn't ask why the rose that grew from the concrete had damaged petals On the contrary We would all celebrate its tenacity We would all love its will to reach the sun
Tupac Shakur - Mamas just a little girl
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Alexandra
Location: PNW Gender:
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Feb 18, 2009 - 12:39pm |
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Rod wrote: Exactly! If everyone just made even the smallest effort to tread a little lighter on the planet, to reuse and recycle, use alternative ways of building our homes, we might just have a world where our children's children don't have to wear gas masks to school.
I always love seeing a little flower grow up through cracks in concrete or an asphalt road. It reminds me that long after we are gone, nature will take back and repair all the damage we have done.
My small effort, starting this month, has been to take my own coffee mug (stainless steel) with me to all the coffeehouses I go to—it's a minimal effort thing, and OH so good for landfills (cardboard production). And Rod—-RIGHT ON about the flower in the crack.........I'm sure you probably LOVE the Talking Heads song "Nothing But Flowers." ...you got it, you got it....
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Rod
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Feb 18, 2009 - 12:33pm |
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Welly wrote: We do, however, need to discuss how we live on this planet in a manner that doesn't make it uninhabitable.
Exactly! If everyone just made even the smallest effort to tread a little lighter on the planet, to reuse and recycle, use alternative ways of building our homes, we might just have a world where our children's children don't have to wear gas masks to school. I always love seeing a little flower grow up through cracks in concrete or an asphalt road. It reminds me that long after we are gone, nature will take back and repair all the damage we have done.
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Welly
Location: Lotusland Gender:
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Feb 18, 2009 - 12:20pm |
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cc_rider wrote:Um, there is no need to save the Earth. The Earth is gonna be just fine, regardless of what we humans do. The Earth was around millions of years before we showed up, and it'll be here millions of years after we're gone, no matter what.
Just sayin,
c.
THANKYOU! We do, however, need to discuss how we live on this planet in a manner that doesn't make it uninhabitable.
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BasmntMadman
Location: Off-White Gardens
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Feb 18, 2009 - 12:09pm |
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cc_rider wrote:Um, there is no need to save the Earth. The Earth is gonna be just fine, regardless of what we humans do. The Earth was around millions of years before we showed up, and it'll be here millions of years after we're gone, no matter what.
Just sayin,
c.
What, and humans won't be around to appreciate these critters? Depressing.
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arsenault
Location: long beach cali USandA Gender:
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Feb 18, 2009 - 11:54am |
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cc_rider wrote:Um, there is no need to save the Earth. The Earth is gonna be just fine, regardless of what we humans do. The Earth was around millions of years before we showed up, and it'll be here millions of years after we're gone, no matter what.
Just sayin,
c.
true and what is the correct temp of the planet...? warmer like it was in roman times....wine in northern england... or cooler like it was in dickens time...thames frozen regularly... in terms of time its an eyeblink....
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cc_rider
Location: Bastrop Gender:
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Feb 18, 2009 - 11:50am |
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Um, there is no need to save the Earth. The Earth is gonna be just fine, regardless of what we humans do. The Earth was around millions of years before we showed up, and it'll be here millions of years after we're gone, no matter what.
Just sayin,
c.
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arsenault
Location: long beach cali USandA Gender:
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Feb 18, 2009 - 11:46am |
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aflanigan wrote:For the Earth's temperature to be in steady state so that the Earth does not rapidly heat or cool, this absorbed solar radiation must be very closely balanced by energy radiated back to space in the infrared wavelengths. Since the intensity of infrared radiation increases with increasing temperature, one can think of the Earth's temperature as being determined by the infrared flux needed to balance the absorbed solar flux. The visible solar radiation mostly heats the surface, not the atmosphere, whereas most of the infrared radiation escaping to space is emitted from the upper atmosphere, not the surface. The infrared photons emitted by the surface are mostly absorbed in the atmosphere by greenhouse gases and clouds and do not escape directly to space . . .
Quantum mechanics provides the basis for computing the interactions between molecules and radiation. Most of this interaction occurs when the frequency of the radiation closely matches that of the spectral lines of the molecule, determined by the quantization of the modes of vibration and rotation of the molecule . . .
The molecules/atoms that constitute the bulk of the atmosphere: oxygen (O2), nitrogen (N2) and argon (Ar); do not interact with infrared radiation significant In the Earth's atmosphere, the dominant infrared absorbing gases are water vapor, carbon dioxide, and ozone (O 3). The same molecules are also the dominant infrared emitting molecules . . . with respect... the volume of emissions reduction if we shut it down completely...would not affect the temperature of the earth... it would be infininitessimal.....
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aflanigan
Location: At Sea Gender:
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Feb 18, 2009 - 11:30am |
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arsenault wrote: curbing CO2 will have no affect on the planet's temperature..
This statement is demonstrably false (plus you mean "effect", not "affect"). See HEREHIghlights/thumbnail version: For the Earth's temperature to be in steady state so that the Earth does not rapidly heat or cool, this absorbed solar radiation must be very closely balanced by energy radiated back to space in the infrared wavelengths. Since the intensity of infrared radiation increases with increasing temperature, one can think of the Earth's temperature as being determined by the infrared flux needed to balance the absorbed solar flux. The visible solar radiation mostly heats the surface, not the atmosphere, whereas most of the infrared radiation escaping to space is emitted from the upper atmosphere, not the surface. The infrared photons emitted by the surface are mostly absorbed in the atmosphere by greenhouse gases and clouds and do not escape directly to space . . .
Quantum mechanics provides the basis for computing the interactions between molecules and radiation. Most of this interaction occurs when the frequency of the radiation closely matches that of the spectral lines of the molecule, determined by the quantization of the modes of vibration and rotation of the molecule . . .
The molecules/atoms that constitute the bulk of the atmosphere: oxygen (O2), nitrogen (N2) and argon (Ar); do not interact with infrared radiation significantly In the Earth's atmosphere, the dominant infrared absorbing gases are water vapor, carbon dioxide, and ozone (O 3). The same molecules are also the dominant infrared emitting molecules . . . Thus, a table in the above wiki article indicates that if you removed all CO2 from the earth's atmosphere, the greenhouse effect (that is, the constant and ongoing absorption and reemission of solar radiation by atmospheric gases) would be reduced by 9%. As you can imagine, such a scenario will not ever happen, but the point is that various factors, including CO2 content in the atmosphere, have a measurable effect on climate and temperature for our planet. While it is probably true that, as the article points out, "The amount of global warming caused by CO2 emissions can be modified by feedbacks and and climate tipping points" (i.e. other factors can potentially undo at least some warming caused by increased greenhouse effect from CO2), it's a fool's wager to count on such factors to guarantee that regardless of the levels of CO2 that are anthropogenically generated, earth's climate will remain unaffected.
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arsenault
Location: long beach cali USandA Gender:
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Feb 18, 2009 - 10:51am |
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Zep wrote: CO2 is 0.03% of the atmosphere... mans contribution is a tiny fraction of this...3.2% estimated..of the 0.03% so if we curb it by 20% that would reduce CO2 by an infinitessimal amount.. curbing CO2 will have no affect on the planet's temperature.. witness...the planet has been cooling for 10 years.. and the planet has been warmer before...and cooler before.. concentrate on pollution.. or stop breathing out...its a scam...
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Zep
Location: Funkytown
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Feb 18, 2009 - 9:57am |
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aflanigan
Location: At Sea Gender:
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Feb 18, 2009 - 8:25am |
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arsenault wrote: spot the hysterical buzzwords...
can we get off the crazy CO2 hate... or just stop exhaling...or using electricity! why not focus on pollutants...i would be on board..
man made CO2 is a drop in the bucket.... and not a pollutant.. whats next?
curb oxygen...?
it leads to spoilage...
anti oxidants rule!!
You know, right before the biblical flood, there was a guy who had the same message for Noah. "Can't we get off the crazy H2O hate, Noah? What do you want us to do, stop bathing and drinking? Why not just focus on water pollution, like dung? I'd be on board with that idea! Ark, my eye!!! What's next, a plague of locusts? Famine? Geez, you doomsayers are all alike!!"
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arsenault
Location: long beach cali USandA Gender:
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Feb 17, 2009 - 9:18pm |
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manbirdexperiment wrote:Tell the EPA to Control CO2Target: Joseph Lapka, EPA Scien EarthjusticetistSponsored by:The EPA is ready to approve a monstrous, 1,500 megawatt coal-fired power plant - without any CO 2 controls - on Navajo land in New Mexico. The Desert Rock coal plant will inundate native communities with health-robbing pollutants that cause asthma and heart attacks and spew 12.7 million tons of CO2 greenhouse gases into the atmosphere every year. Desert Rock is a centerpiece of Bush-era plans to spread coal power across the land without regard for its environmental havoc. But thanks to President Obama, the EPA now must listen to what we have to say. This is the chance we all have been waiting for - to be heard! We only have until February 23 to speak up and help build a groundswell movement in support of controlling this plant's air pollution. Tell the EPA to impose the strictest-possible CO2 controls - making it the first plant in EPA history to have such limits.
spot the hysterical buzzwords... can we get off the crazy CO2 hate... or just stop exhaling...or using electricity! why not focus on pollutants...i would be on board.. man made CO2 is a drop in the bucket.... and not a pollutant.. whats next? curb oxygen...? it leads to spoilage... anti oxidants rule!!
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Manbird
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Feb 17, 2009 - 11:16am |
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Tell the EPA to Control CO2Target: Joseph Lapka, EPA ScientistSponsored by: EarthjusticeThe EPA is ready to approve a monstrous, 1,500 megawatt coal-fired power plant - without any CO 2 controls - on Navajo land in New Mexico. The Desert Rock coal plant will inundate native communities with health-robbing pollutants that cause asthma and heart attacks and spew 12.7 million tons of CO2 greenhouse gases into the atmosphere every year. Desert Rock is a centerpiece of Bush-era plans to spread coal power across the land without regard for its environmental havoc. But thanks to President Obama, the EPA now must listen to what we have to say. This is the chance we all have been waiting for - to be heard! We only have until February 23 to speak up and help build a groundswell movement in support of controlling this plant's air pollution. Tell the EPA to impose the strictest-possible CO2 controls - making it the first plant in EPA history to have such limits.
CLICK HERE TO TAKE ACTION!
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laozilover
Location: K Town (Kenosha, Wisconsin) Gender:
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Nov 14, 2007 - 9:07pm |
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OlderThanDirt
Location: In Transit Gender:
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Jul 10, 2007 - 3:53pm |
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Red_Dragon
Location: Dumbf*ckistan
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Jul 10, 2007 - 10:23am |
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Southern_Boy
Location: On my way to the beach Gender:
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Jul 10, 2007 - 10:21am |
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Red_Dragon
Location: Dumbf*ckistan
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R_P
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