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Posted: Feb 3, 2010 - 12:32am

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We can deduce the existence of a reality from the fact we sense something.  In addition we know that it is a reality that produces these senses somehow - I know that whatever system exists, it produces the sensation of being me as a result.

 
True, but you're still within the box.

(to elucidate, I think our box currently extends back to the big bang and contains everything within our event horizon since then... our powers of deduction might expand the size of the box a little i guess in a kind of "brick/foot/pain => brick is real" kind of way. It is important to remember that reality is a concept, admittedly a concept we use to refer to things that are independent of our powers of perception but nevetheless it is still a concept and as such it changes over time. For instance flying pigs are conceivable but not real. Were we however to discover a planet with flying pigs, then they would move into our concept of what is real. Things that are conceivable but not yet substantiated are not commonly considered real even though they might well be).


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Posted: Feb 3, 2010 - 12:30am

 NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote:

But then how do you know its real? Or even if it exists? Pure presumption!!
 
We can deduce the existence of a reality from the fact we sense something.  In addition we know that it is a reality that produces these senses somehow - I know that whatever system exists, it produces the sensation of being me as a result.
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Posted: Feb 3, 2010 - 12:27am

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Nah, reality is more complicated than you or I can ever conceive.  More whatsits than dreamt of in your philosophies and all that...

 
But then how do you know its real? Or even if it exists? Pure presumption!!

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Posted: Feb 3, 2010 - 12:24am

 NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote:
Reality is a tiny little box in the middle of a vast warehouse of spent ideas where the confines of the box delineate the horizons of what is conceivably within the box, to us at least.
 
Nah, reality is more complicated than you or I can ever conceive.  More whatsits than dreamt of in your philosophies and all that...
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Posted: Feb 3, 2010 - 12:21am

At expensive restaurants reality is not on the menu
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Posted: Feb 3, 2010 - 12:15am

or... reality is the hair in the soup of the conceivable
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Posted: Feb 3, 2010 - 12:08am

Reality is a tiny little box in the middle of a vast warehouse of spent ideas where the confines of the box delineate the horizons of what is conceivably within the box, to us at least.
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Posted: Feb 3, 2010 - 12:00am

Maths is the only thing that can reliably be called real.
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Posted: Feb 2, 2010 - 9:27pm

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We still say that here :)
 
It's the lake effect. 
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Posted: Feb 2, 2010 - 9:25pm

 Manbird wrote:

You know what we used to say in Michigan... if you don't like the reality... wait 5 minutes. Ehoo!

 
We still say that here :)

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Posted: Feb 2, 2010 - 9:23pm

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Reality is the same shit, no matter how different the day is

 
You know what we used to say in Michigan... if you don't like the reality... wait 5 minutes. Ehoo!
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Posted: Feb 2, 2010 - 9:21pm

Reality is the same shit, no matter how different the day is
I'm missing my movie & I haven't gotten anywhere near a good cry yet...

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Posted: Feb 2, 2010 - 9:06pm

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I'd like a road map for the one I'm in right now, if you don't mind...
  That would be your astrological chart. It is a road map for your Soul's journey through this life.


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Posted: Feb 2, 2010 - 8:22pm

Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one.

~ Albert Einstein
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Posted: Feb 2, 2010 - 8:12pm

Kids arguing with each other, laundry piling up and the dog barking at a mouse she has cornered..
My reality right now.. {#Meditate}
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Posted: Feb 2, 2010 - 8:10pm

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Which one?

 
I'd like a road map for the one I'm in right now, if you don't mind...

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Posted: Feb 2, 2010 - 8:08pm

Which one?
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Posted: Feb 2, 2010 - 8:02pm

A four-dimensional brane within a higher dimensional multiverse, with vibrating "strings" and branes making up all particles and forces, which are (excepting gravity) confined to this four-dimensional brane.
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Posted: Feb 2, 2010 - 7:46pm



If you didn't see this on FRONTLINE this evening, I highly recommend it—

Digital Nation


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