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Posted: Mar 23, 2019 - 1:23pm

America Through Nazi Eyes
The most radical Nazis were the most aggressive champions of U.S. law. Where they found the U.S. example lacking, it was because they thought it was too harsh.

Hitler’s American Model: The United States and the Making of Nazi Race Law by James Q. Whitman
Princeton University Press, 2017, 224 pp.

In September 1933, an important policy document known as the Prussian Memorandum began circulating among lawmakers and jurists of the Third Reich. The Nazi regime was still in its infancy; Hitler had been named chancellor just nine months prior, the result of a power-sharing arrangement with nationalist conservatives who thought they could control the mercurial Austrian. Following the Reichstag Fire in February of that year, Hitler had assumed emergency powers and within weeks usurped the authority of the parliament. By that critical autumn, the Third Reich had begun Nazifying the German legal code. The Prussian Memorandum that passed between Nazi legal hands was an early blueprint for the 1935 Nuremberg Laws, which stripped Jews of their citizenship and criminalized sexual relations between Germans and those thought to have impure blood. It was the foundational text of Nazi legal thinking. Incredibly, the Prussian Memorandum expressly cited the gold standard of racist lawmaking at the time: the United States of America. (...)

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Posted: Mar 5, 2019 - 4:43am

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So I went to see Green Book the other day. I'd seen the previews and got a couple of laughs, and Mahershala Ali is worth a ticket, and Viggo too. So was it the Best Picture? Nah. Had some problems. Had some terrific scenes, some corn, some outright bullshit, but most of all some reminders of how things were the year I was born. Not (really) ancient history. *cough* so anyway I liked it. Felt good to see a non-animated, non-PG movie with Justine.

Turns out it sucks. Not just sucks, it set the world back 50 years. The worst Best Picture. Not just that, but by seeing it, I supported the 1962 status quo that only a Magical Negro can reform a racist white guy, ergo I am as bad as any of the bad characters in the movie. And I personally pissed on the grave of the legendary Doctor Don Shirley, a performer whose existence I was unaware of until this screening, and whose recorded output I will not in the future be able to identify, because I saw a movie that featured him, but did not make him the lead character. 

So, shame on me, I guess.
 

movies/films are art, they're subjective

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Posted: Mar 1, 2019 - 11:54am

What racism? Just a bit tone deaf in post-racial America...
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Posted: Mar 1, 2019 - 9:58am



 sirdroseph wrote:
 ScottFromWyoming wrote:
So I went to see Green Book the other day. I'd seen the previews and got a couple of laughs, and Mahershala Ali is worth a ticket, and Viggo too. So was it the Best Picture? Nah. Had some problems. Had some terrific scenes, some corn, some outright bullshit, but most of all some reminders of how things were the year I was born. Not (really) ancient history. *cough* so anyway I liked it. Felt good to see a non-animated, non-PG movie with Justine.

Turns out it sucks. Not just sucks, it set the world back 50 years. The worst Best Picture. Not just that, but by seeing it, I supported the 1962 status quo that only a Magical Negro can reform a racist white guy, ergo I am as bad as any of the bad characters in the movie. And I personally pissed on the grave of the legendary Doctor Don Shirley, a performer whose existence I was unaware of until this screening, and whose recorded output I will not in the future be able to identify, because I saw a movie that featured him, but did not make him the lead character. 

So, shame on me, I guess.

 
Not you, but all of those involved in making that movie have some explaining to do imo.  At the very best they are completely tone deaf that their interpretation of a true story is racist as hell and I am not one to throw those accusations around lightly. This article is spot on.  Hollywood is just clueless and dripping with irony as they put on their fake ass progressive faces.
 


The movie's based on the book by the driver's son. It's his story, with his clear embellishments and faulty memory. If they wanted to do a biopic of Don Shirley, they sure could have, and I'd happily go see it. But it wouldn't be the same movie, for better or worse. Since it's the son's book of recollections his father told him, it doesn't pretend to be any sort of nonfiction account of Don Shirley. Maybe that movie needs to be made. Maybe that movie would be boring as hell. Here's a more recent take on the movie and the backlash that sums up where I'm at pretty well
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Posted: Mar 1, 2019 - 9:36am

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:
So I went to see Green Book the other day. I'd seen the previews and got a couple of laughs, and Mahershala Ali is worth a ticket, and Viggo too. So was it the Best Picture? Nah. Had some problems. Had some terrific scenes, some corn, some outright bullshit, but most of all some reminders of how things were the year I was born. Not (really) ancient history. *cough* so anyway I liked it. Felt good to see a non-animated, non-PG movie with Justine.

Turns out it sucks. Not just sucks, it set the world back 50 years. The worst Best Picture. Not just that, but by seeing it, I supported the 1962 status quo that only a Magical Negro can reform a racist white guy, ergo I am as bad as any of the bad characters in the movie. And I personally pissed on the grave of the legendary Doctor Don Shirley, a performer whose existence I was unaware of until this screening, and whose recorded output I will not in the future be able to identify, because I saw a movie that featured him, but did not make him the lead character. 

So, shame on me, I guess.

 
Not you, but all of those involved in making that movie have some explaining to do imo.  At the very best they are completely tone deaf that their interpretation of a true story is racist as hell and I am not one to throw those accusations around lightly. This article is spot on.  Hollywood is just clueless and dripping with irony as they put on their fake ass progressive faces.{#Eek}


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Posted: Mar 1, 2019 - 9:24am

So I went to see Green Book the other day. I'd seen the previews and got a couple of laughs, and Mahershala Ali is worth a ticket, and Viggo too. So was it the Best Picture? Nah. Had some problems. Had some terrific scenes, some corn, some outright bullshit, but most of all some reminders of how things were the year I was born. Not (really) ancient history. *cough* so anyway I liked it. Felt good to see a non-animated, non-PG movie with Justine.

Turns out it sucks. Not just sucks, it set the world back 50 years. The worst Best Picture. Not just that, but by seeing it, I supported the 1962 status quo that only a Magical Negro can reform a racist white guy, ergo I am as bad as any of the bad characters in the movie. And I personally pissed on the grave of the legendary Doctor Don Shirley, a performer whose existence I was unaware of until this screening, and whose recorded output I will not in the future be able to identify, because I saw a movie that featured him, but did not make him the lead character. 

So, shame on me, I guess.
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Mark Meadows is a  POS Trump-toady and direct beneficiary of Republican gerrymandering, who voted against relief for victims of Hurricane Sandy and while campaigning for the 2012 election said "2012 is the time we are going to send Mr. Obama home to Kenya or wherever it is."
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Posted: Mar 1, 2019 - 8:44am

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Posted: Feb 23, 2019 - 8:19am

via human progress,org

Big Rise in Interracial Marriage Since "I Have a Dream" Speech

In 2017, the Pew Research Center reported that Americans are five times more likely to marry someone of a different race or ethnicity than in 1967.

Sharp increases in interracial marriage and, concomitantly, support for that institution in recent decades show that race relations in the United States have made almost unfathomable progress since Martin Luther King’s 1963 “I Have a Dream” speech. 

In that speech, Dr. King eloquently stated America’s goals concerning race. “I have a dream that one day this nation will rise up and live out the true meaning of its creed: ‘We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal.’ … I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character.” 

America has not fully achieved these goals, but denying America’s amazing progress is equally wrong. That’s especially true of interracial marriage, which is the most intimate and sensitive aspect of race relations. There are, in fact, no better measures of how whites and blacks feel about each other than the rate of interracial marriage and attitudes toward these unions. 

In 2017, the Pew Research Center reported that Americans are five times more likely to marry someone of a different race or ethnicity than in 1967. In 2015, 17 percent, or roughly one in six American newlyweds, married someone of a different race or ethnicity. In 1967, the rate was only 3 percent. At least as significantly, the rate of opposition by non-blacks to the possibility of a close relative marrying someone black has decreased from 63 percent in 1990 to only 14 percent in 2016. That amounts to a decline of 78 percent. 

Pew’s findings are consistent with earlier reports and trends. In 2013, Pew reported that 12 percent of American newlyweds married someone of a different race. That was a record high back then. In the more specific category of marriages between blacks and whites, a 2007 study by Harvard economist Roland Fryer Jr. reported that black men married white women at a rate almost six times higher in 2000 than in 1970. 

In 2013, Gallup reported that among whites, the rate of approval of black-white marriage was 84 percent, almost five times higher than the 17 percent rate in 1969. The Gallup data show consistently increasing rates of approval of black-white marriage over the decades: 17 percent in 1969; 25 percent in 1973; 33 percent in 1979; 38 percent in 1983; 44 percent in 1991; 45 percent in 1995; 61 percent in 1997; 60 percent in 2003; 72 percent in 2004; 75 percent in 2007; 83 percent in 2011; and 84 percent in 2013. 

These developments would not have been possible without dramatic improvement in race relations and acceptance of blacks as full citizens in American society. As full citizens, blacks now participate in all aspects and at all levels of American society: the Presidency; the Supreme Court; the Federal Reserve Board; and all positions in federal, state, and local government, the courts, the military, law enforcement, business, sports, the arts and sciences, and entertainment. 

As such, the education and wage gaps between blacks and whites have narrowed. Another Pew report shows that in 1964, blacks were about 53 percent as likely as whites to have high school diplomas. By 2015, they were about 95 percent as likely. In 1964, blacks were about 40 percent as likely as whites to have college degrees. By 2015, they were about 64 percent as likely. A 2016 study by University of Louisiana at Monroe scholars Carl Kogut, Donna Luse, and Larry Short similarly reports that the gap between white and black employees’ wages “has narrowed substantially from about 50 percent in the late 1960s to between 17 and 23 percent.” 

America has made stunning progress, but we are not yet done. Much progress still needs to be made. Doing that requires that we learn from America’s successes and celebrate its progress. It is critical that we recognize America’s massive steps forward regarding race since Dr. King’s “I Have a Dream” speech. To do otherwise will prevent America from giving full meaning to its founding creed that all people are created equal.


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Posted: Feb 22, 2019 - 4:36pm

Twitter Reacts To 1971 John Wayne Interview
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Posted: Jan 25, 2019 - 2:46am



 haresfur wrote:


 sirdroseph wrote:
 RabbitEars wrote:
NYTimes edited video of clash at LM

I find this to lend a solid sense of the chain of events... more perspectives than watching any one viral video. 
Strong ego-identifications on all sides:
The Black Israelites are out there looking for a fight. If you live in a large city, you know the best thing to do with a fringe group like this is to ignore them. Turn the other cheek, if you will. The Covington group's response was nothing short of ignorant. It does reek of white privilege, but you can't say they weren't provoked. You also can't say they weren't provocative - the MAGA hats represent a lying, cheating thug who could care less about abortion and has no problem advocating violence, so it's a street-dumb thing to wear them in that context. It's hard for me to believe Phillips' motive for putting himself in the middle of that group was 100% about diffusing the situation... if so, it was also a pretty ignorant move. 

In the end, the Israelites get a lot more attention than they ever have - most people would never have heard of them otherwise. From my perspective, it demonstrates fighting fire with fire is most likely to fail. It's the perfect fit for Jesus' teaching about turning the other cheek. I wouldn't expect teenagers to be wise enough to not take the bait, but their chaperones (who so strongly identify as Christians) should have known better than to let those kids escalate a confrontation. 

I hope there is a conversation at that school that brings some light in, but vilifying those kids or that town will just be more fire-to-fire. 

 
That's about how I sees it too.
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I see it as a native-American elder successfully diffusing a tense situation
 
I don't know, doesn't sound like a diffusing kinda guy:   


Updated: Nathan Phillips rally protesters attempted to disrupt Mass at DC’s National Shrine

REPORT: Nathan Phillips Led Protest Attempting To Crash Mass After Covington Catholic Confrontation


I actually sympathize with his cause, but think it is quite disingenuous to think he was really trying to diffuse the situation.

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Posted: Jan 24, 2019 - 4:16pm

Florida Secretary of State Michael Ertel resigns after Halloween blackface photos emerge
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Posted: Jan 24, 2019 - 2:23pm



 sirdroseph wrote:
 RabbitEars wrote:
NYTimes edited video of clash at LM

I find this to lend a solid sense of the chain of events... more perspectives than watching any one viral video. 
Strong ego-identifications on all sides:
The Black Israelites are out there looking for a fight. If you live in a large city, you know the best thing to do with a fringe group like this is to ignore them. Turn the other cheek, if you will. The Covington group's response was nothing short of ignorant. It does reek of white privilege, but you can't say they weren't provoked. You also can't say they weren't provocative - the MAGA hats represent a lying, cheating thug who could care less about abortion and has no problem advocating violence, so it's a street-dumb thing to wear them in that context. It's hard for me to believe Phillips' motive for putting himself in the middle of that group was 100% about diffusing the situation... if so, it was also a pretty ignorant move. 

In the end, the Israelites get a lot more attention than they ever have - most people would never have heard of them otherwise. From my perspective, it demonstrates fighting fire with fire is most likely to fail. It's the perfect fit for Jesus' teaching about turning the other cheek. I wouldn't expect teenagers to be wise enough to not take the bait, but their chaperones (who so strongly identify as Christians) should have known better than to let those kids escalate a confrontation. 

I hope there is a conversation at that school that brings some light in, but vilifying those kids or that town will just be more fire-to-fire. 

 
That's about how I sees it too.
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I see it as a native-American elder successfully diffusing a tense situation
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Posted: Jan 24, 2019 - 7:00am

 RabbitEars wrote:
NYTimes edited video of clash at LM

I find this to lend a solid sense of the chain of events... more perspectives than watching any one viral video. 
Strong ego-identifications on all sides:
The Black Israelites are out there looking for a fight. If you live in a large city, you know the best thing to do with a fringe group like this is to ignore them. Turn the other cheek, if you will. The Covington group's response was nothing short of ignorant. It does reek of white privilege, but you can't say they weren't provoked. You also can't say they weren't provocative - the MAGA hats represent a lying, cheating thug who could care less about abortion and has no problem advocating violence, so it's a street-dumb thing to wear them in that context. It's hard for me to believe Phillips' motive for putting himself in the middle of that group was 100% about diffusing the situation... if so, it was also a pretty ignorant move. 

In the end, the Israelites get a lot more attention than they ever have - most people would never have heard of them otherwise. From my perspective, it demonstrates fighting fire with fire is most likely to fail. It's the perfect fit for Jesus' teaching about turning the other cheek. I wouldn't expect teenagers to be wise enough to not take the bait, but their chaperones (who so strongly identify as Christians) should have known better than to let those kids escalate a confrontation. 

I hope there is a conversation at that school that brings some light in, but vilifying those kids or that town will just be more fire-to-fire. 

 
That's about how I sees it too.{#Umbrella}
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Posted: Jan 23, 2019 - 9:08pm

White supremacist pleads guilty to killing black man as 'practice' for racist plot
(...) Jackson had been scheduled to stand trial on Wednesday. A judge had ruled that jurors would hear his detailed confession.

He faces life in prison when he is sentenced 13 February for his plea to murder charges.

Caughman, who was remembered as a gentleman and a good neighbor, was alone and collecting bottles for recycling when he was attacked from behind with a sword. He staggered, bleeding, into a police station and died at a hospital.

Jackson is from Baltimore and a veteran who served in Afghanistan. Family friends said previously that the allegations were out of line with how he was raised, in a tolerant and liberal middle-class family.

In a 2017 jailhouse interview with the Daily News, Jackson said he intended the stabbing as “a practice run” in a mission to deter interracial relationships.

He said he would rather have killed “a young thug” or “a successful older black man with blondes … people you see in Midtown. These younger guys that put white girls on the wrong path.”

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Posted: Jan 23, 2019 - 2:35pm

NYTimes edited video of clash at LM

I find this to lend a solid sense of the chain of events... more perspectives than watching any one viral video. 
Strong ego-identifications on all sides:
The Black Israelites are out there looking for a fight. If you live in a large city, you know the best thing to do with a fringe group like this is to ignore them. Turn the other cheek, if you will. The Covington group's response was nothing short of ignorant. It does reek of white privilege, but you can't say they weren't provoked. You also can't say they weren't provocative - the MAGA hats represent a lying, cheating thug who could care less about abortion and has no problem advocating violence, so it's a street-dumb thing to wear them in that context. It's hard for me to believe Phillips' motive for putting himself in the middle of that group was 100% about diffusing the situation... if so, it was also a pretty ignorant move. 

In the end, the Israelites get a lot more attention than they ever have - most people would never have heard of them otherwise. From my perspective, it demonstrates fighting fire with fire is most likely to fail. It's the perfect fit for Jesus' teaching about turning the other cheek. I wouldn't expect teenagers to be wise enough to not take the bait, but their chaperones (who so strongly identify as Christians) should have known better than to let those kids escalate a confrontation. 

I hope there is a conversation at that school that brings some light in, but vilifying those kids or that town will just be more fire-to-fire. 
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Posted: Jan 23, 2019 - 2:03pm

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Gotta work the glue while it's still wet. Or the gluten...something.

bringing in the sheaves, you know.

Sowing in the morning, sowing seeds of kindness,
Sowing in the noontide and the dewy eve;
Waiting for the harvest, and the time of reaping,
We shall come rejoicing, bringing in the sheaves.

you were born close...

 

sometimes it doesn't feel like it

if you see me in a ditch, throw me a rope  

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Posted: Jan 23, 2019 - 1:34pm

Rebecca Nagel (Cherokee Nation): "In all of Indian Country, we don’t have as much access to media and power as this one extremely privileged, White kid. And now, he gets to say what happened. Like so many White men who can before him, he gets to rewrite history."
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Posted: Jan 23, 2019 - 1:22pm



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even tho i'm on a diet, i'll still take a menu

am i close?
 

Gotta work the glue while it's still wet. Or the gluten...something.

bringing in the sheaves, you know.

Sowing in the morning, sowing seeds of kindness,
Sowing in the noontide and the dewy eve;
Waiting for the harvest, and the time of reaping,
We shall come rejoicing, bringing in the sheaves.

you were born close...
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Posted: Jan 23, 2019 - 1:08pm

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No J. It has to be available to be rejected. Otherwise nothing will be lifted up.
But I understand what you're saying. It seems impossible ...
 

even tho i'm on a diet, i'll still take a menu

am i close?
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