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Posted: May 9, 2023 - 2:30pm

Inside the ‘Death Match’ that Helped Doom Tucker Carlson at Fox
The host tried to get a top executive canned. It backfired spectacularly
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Posted: May 4, 2023 - 11:06am

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The pull quote is stupid, but you're right, the rest of it is reasonable and in context, even the poor choice of words supports his point. The only "miss" is where he says he's sure he'd hate the guy if he knew him.  That reinforced the idea that it's fine and natural to hate other Americans and the only nuance needed is whether we kill people we hate or try to avoid or banish them.


Again, absolutely nothing but disdain and disrespect for bow tie boy. But pulling that one line from the text just falls into line with the complaint that the “media” have an agenda. I think taking the poor choice of words and blowing it up into making him a partner with David Duke (although he may well be from others things) is weak.
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Posted: May 4, 2023 - 9:53am

Carlson is marginally more nuanced than the forum denizen who opined at the time that "antifa should be shot like animals."
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Posted: May 4, 2023 - 9:51am

Fox has truly phuked themselves with firing Carlson.  They fired the top news host in the country and viewers are fleeing. 

Not the Bee: Fox News ratings crater after axing Tucker Carlson

Since firing Tucker Carlson, Fox News Channel’s ratings in the all-important 25-54 demo have fallen off a cliff:

•6pm ET: -42%
•7pm ET: -62%
•8pm ET: -75%
•9pm ET: -70%
•10pm ET: -66%
•11pm ET: -49%



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Posted: May 4, 2023 - 9:40am

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The full text from Tucker, showing some humanity - but all folks are seeing is the mention of race. I have zero love for that sphincter, who has done more than his share of ruining people and families and the USA, but it’s worth seeing what he was really trying to say: 


Tucker Carlson January 7, 2021 — 04:18:04 PM UTC

A couple of weeks ago, I was watching video of people fighting on the street in Washington. A group of Trump guys surrounded an Antifa kid and started pounding the living shit out of him. It was three against one, at least. Jumping a guy like that is dishonorable obviously. It’s not how white men fight. Yet suddenly I found myself rooting for the mob against the man, hoping they’d hit him harder, kill him. I really wanted them to hurt the kid. I could taste it. Then somewhere deep in my brain, an alarm went off: this isn’t good for me. I’m becoming something I don’t want to be. The Antifa creep is a human being. Much as I despise what he says and does, much as I’m sure I’d hate him personally if I knew him, I shouldn’t gloat over his suffering. I should be bothered by it. I should remember that somewhere somebody probably loves this kid, and would be crushed if he was killed. If I don’t care about those things, if I reduce people to their politics, how am I better than he is?




The pull quote is stupid, but you're right, the rest of it is reasonable and in context, even the poor choice of words supports his point. The only "miss" is where he says he's sure he'd hate the guy if he knew him.  That reinforced the idea that it's fine and natural to hate other Americans and the only nuance needed is whether we kill people we hate or try to avoid or banish them.
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Posted: May 4, 2023 - 9:18am

The full text from Tucker, showing some humanity - but all folks are seeing is the mention of race. I have zero love for that sphincter, who has done more than his share of ruining people and families and the USA, but it’s worth seeing what he was really trying to say: 


Tucker Carlson January 7, 2021 — 04:18:04 PM UTC

A couple of weeks ago, I was watching video of people fighting on the street in Washington. A group of Trump guys surrounded an Antifa kid and started pounding the living shit out of him. It was three against one, at least. Jumping a guy like that is dishonorable obviously. It’s not how white men fight. Yet suddenly I found myself rooting for the mob against the man, hoping they’d hit him harder, kill him. I really wanted them to hurt the kid. I could taste it. Then somewhere deep in my brain, an alarm went off: this isn’t good for me. I’m becoming something I don’t want to be. The Antifa creep is a human being. Much as I despise what he says and does, much as I’m sure I’d hate him personally if I knew him, I shouldn’t gloat over his suffering. I should be bothered by it. I should remember that somewhere somebody probably loves this kid, and would be crushed if he was killed. If I don’t care about those things, if I reduce people to their politics, how am I better than he is?


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Posted: May 3, 2023 - 10:25am

Carlson’s Text That Alarmed Fox Leaders: ‘It’s Not How White Men Fight’
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Posted: Apr 28, 2023 - 6:18pm

 Steely_D wrote:

There are far too many, so I skip most if not all until there's some discretion.



I hear you. TL;DR: He said a lot of inappropriate, nasty stuff about other Fox management but nothing directly quoted about Rupert. Plenty to get someone fired in a rational world, anyway. Mainly pointing it out as things people are saying about him getting fired for reasons outside the lies about Dominion.

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Posted: Apr 28, 2023 - 5:31pm

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See RP's link 

There are far too many, so I skip most if not all until there's some discretion.

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Posted: Apr 27, 2023 - 8:09pm

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Which should be the modus operandi of his opponents at this point. Spreading baseless, insulting, disturbing rumors as though they were truth.

My understanding, and I read this on the Internet somewhere, is that his propensity for checking out children's literature from his local library - and then NOT RETURNING IT - had finally gotten so bad that his car trunk was a fire hazard and his local authorities (who could spot his cheap old sedan a mile away, due to its sagging backside) had lectured him enough that they eventually brought their case to FOX and that was the straw that broke the camel's back. 

Thoughts and prayers


See RP's link 

Don't know why this would be something his opponents would want to do, though. It seems more benign to say he pissed off the boss than to say he is a sociopath that would spread any lies he can to boost his ratings. But what do I know?
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Posted: Apr 26, 2023 - 4:06pm

Tucker Carlson’s Vulgar, Offensive Messages About Colleagues Helped Seal His Fate at Fox News
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Posted: Apr 26, 2023 - 3:01pm

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My theory, unencumbered by facts...


Which should be the modus operandi of his opponents at this point. Spreading baseless, insulting, disturbing rumors as though they were truth.

My understanding, and I read this on the Internet somewhere, is that his propensity for checking out children's literature from his local library - and then NOT RETURNING IT - had finally gotten so bad that his car trunk was a fire hazard and his local authorities (who could spot his cheap old sedan a mile away, due to its sagging backside) had lectured him enough that they eventually brought their case to FOX and that was the straw that broke the camel's back. 

Thoughts and prayers
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Posted: Apr 25, 2023 - 9:37pm

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Among all the global capitalism he had to go. For me, he was sometimes asking the right questions. But those weren't liked by the establishment. It is hard for such individuals in the media to stay alive, when the "whole world" global capitalist media are against free speech and vested into Gleichschaltung in order to have umpty international channels telling one and the same truth. Makes me think of Joe Rogan and Elon Musk, and Matt Taibbi perhaps, and more dissenting truth proponents are already getting into the line of fire.

The censorship- and surveillance-mills keep grinding us all into a brave new world.  




um, as Bregman so eloquently put it, Tucker Carlson is a millionaire who earns his money saying what his billionaire owners want him to say....  he is the establishment.


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Posted: Apr 25, 2023 - 3:02pm

Among all the global capitalism he had to go. For me, he was sometimes asking the right questions. But those weren't liked by the establishment. It is hard for such individuals in the media to stay alive, when the "whole world" global capitalist media are against free speech and vested into Gleichschaltung in order to have umpty international channels telling one and the same truth. Makes me think of Joe Rogan and Elon Musk, and Matt Taibbi perhaps, and more dissenting truth proponents are already getting into the line of fire.

The censorship- and surveillance-mills keep grinding us all into a brave new world.  


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Posted: Apr 25, 2023 - 2:50pm

My theory, unencumbered by facts, is that Tuck leaving has nothing directly to do with the revelations in the Dominion lawsuit. All those emails etc. that were provided and poured over by the legal teams would have included many that were irrelevant to the lawsuit and never put into evidence. However, given the way he ran his mouth in the ones we do know about, it is possible he said something about Rupert that really pissed him off enough for Tucker to get fired.

So the firing would just be collateral damage.
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Posted: Apr 25, 2023 - 2:28pm

I'm sure his 'Hi-I've-got-a-defamation-lawsuit-axe-over-my-head' is going to be upper most in his resume. Other Opinion-As-News shows will have him on to milk the victimhood vibe - but I doubt he'll get hired soon. No one wants that smell on their brand. Perhaps the wild wild west of say-anything broadcasting after three plus decades* has discovered its achilles heel?

*Limbaugh began his radio show in the late 1980's.


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Posted: Apr 25, 2023 - 1:35pm

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The TL;DR of it: there were plenty before him, plenty that were better or more popular than him, and will be plenty afterward. He's not all that and we shouldn't assign to him some sort of mystical greatness that he doesn't deserve. 
 
We were over it already this weekend when we head about it. Seen him all the way through from his bow tie days moving forward to the present.  Never was a fan, just put up with him.  Like everyone, he had his good points and bad ones.
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Posted: Apr 25, 2023 - 1:10pm

Regardless of your level of Schadenfreude over Fox firing Carlson, you might want to watch Maddow's commentary last night - the first 6:53 before she brings in a guest. She never mentions his name, and spends a very long time putting that sort of person (conservative mouthpiece) into historical context. 

The TL;DR of it: there were plenty before him, plenty that were better or more popular than him, and will be plenty afterward. He's not all that and we shouldn't assign to him some sort of mystical greatness that he doesn't deserve. 

I contrast that with the NYTimes "Daily" program that spends too much time talking about how important and powerful he is/was. 


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Posted: Apr 24, 2023 - 7:07pm

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 Wow.  To say that in 2023 takes a tremendous amount of wilful ignorance!  Congrats,  I suppose.



Anemic personal attack. Congrats, I suppose. 

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