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The how and why of how he came to be President is more of a topic for moot courts and future historians. You yourself advised Democrats to "get over it", now you're trying to foment a culture of blame and scapegoating; lamenting the cause is the opposite of "getting over it". I am not concerned with the autopsy of Hillary's campaign or the DNC, but I am concerned with a President and his mouthpieces who have no respect for truth in general and facts in particular.
There are places where opinions can be in conflict and be correct. Two blind men can describe an elephant as a snake and a tree and both be correct. But there are some objective facts that that are not up for discussion, if one of the blind men believes that he can survive being stepped on by the elephant, he is wrong and when put to the test he will suffer. Many people will figure this out soon.
Yes, there can be an alternative truth or truths (though "alternate" is probably a better word), depending on perception, interpretation, or opinion; there cannot be "alternative facts", those would be "delusions".
The how and why of his Presidency is a topic for moot courts and future historians. You yourself advised Democrats to "get over it", now you're trying to foment a culture of blame and scapegoating; lamenting the cause is the opposite of "getting over it". I am not concerned with the autopsy of Hillary's campaign or the DNC, but I am concerned with a President and his mouthpieces who have no respect for truth in general and facts in particular.
There are places where opinions can be in conflict and be correct. Two blind men can describe an elephant as a snake and a tree and both be correct. But there are some objective facts that that are not up for discussion, if one of the blind men believes that he can survive being stepped on by the elephant, he is wrong and when put to the test he will suffer. Many people will figure this out soon.
I believe it was you who regularly voiced your support and vote for Trump as being partly based on the theory that his assuming office would at least blow up the system and allow us to start over. Something about it being our only hope.
He also made the laughable claim that because he was rich* he wouldn't be beholden to anyone once he got in. *yet to be proven for meaningful values of rich.
Y'all can say what you want about Trump. You can also blame Trump's election entirely on the DNC. If they hadn't rigged their primaries against Bernie, we would be talking about President Sanders, not Trump. All the polls showed that he would've creamed Trump in the general.
Y'all should be mad with your party for getting Trump elected, not Trump. It was the DNC's own damn fault.
Independents are another matter. Your interests are too diluted to have an impact at present.
Those who voted for Trump had to survive the last 8 years, so those who didn't will have to take their turn at surviving the next 8. Or you can burn the house down cuz you didn't get your way. Just like Madonna wants to do ...
The how and why of his Presidency is more of a topic for moot courts and future historians. You yourself advised Democrats to "get over it", now you're trying to foment a culture of blame and scapegoating; lamenting the cause is the opposite of "getting over it". I am not concerned with the autopsy of Hillary's campaign or the DNC, but I am concerned with a President and his mouthpieces who have no respect for truth in general and facts in particular.
Location: Perched on the precipice of the cauldron of truth
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Jan 25, 2017 - 6:43am
kurtster wrote:
Y'all can say what you want about Trump. You can also blame Trump's election entirely on the DNC. If they hadn't rigged their primaries against Bernie, we would be talking about President Sanders, not Trump. All the polls showed that he would've creamed Trump in the general.
Y'all should be mad with your party for getting Trump elected, not Trump. It was the DNC's own damn fault.
Independents are another matter. Your interests are too diluted to have an impact at present.
Those who voted for Trump had to survive the last 8 years, so those who didn't will have to take their turn at surviving the next 8. Or you can burn the house down cuz you didn't get your way. Just like Madonna wants to do ...
I believe it was you who regularly voiced your support and vote for Trump as being partly based on the theory that his assuming office would at least blow up the system and allow us to start over. Something about it being our only hope.
It's already extremely painfull. Obvious lies from the press guy because Trump experienced the greatest crowd ever. Or those oil pipes. As if there is not a complex situation around those pipes. Revert Obamacare like you don't care. No insights into the tax reports because 'nobody is interested'. And so on. This after just a few days and this guy will run the USA for at least 4 years. Interesting times. Interesting times...
I seriously doubt he'll last that long. Not that his veep is any less a disaster.
It's already extremely painfull. Obvious lies from the press guy because Trump experienced the greatest crowd ever. Or those oil pipes. As if there is not a complex situation around those pipes. Revert Obamacare like you don't care. No insights into the tax reports because 'nobody is interested'. And so on. This after just a few days and this guy will run the USA for at least 4 years. Interesting times. Interesting times...
Y'all can say what you want about Trump. You can also blame Trump's election entirely on the DNC. If they hadn't rigged their primaries against Bernie,
Here is an interesting example of truth being abandoned for an alternative fact, but as presented by Bernie supporters. The D primary system was "rigged" a couple of decades ago; nothing to do with Bernie. That it wound up biting Democrats in the ass was just a preview of the Electoral College: another system-rigging scheme that occasionally produces undesirable results.
And despite being corrected repeatedly, Bernie supporters keep repeating the incorrect information until it's accepted as fact by most.
Y'all can say what you want about Trump. You can also blame Trump's election entirely on the DNC. If they hadn't rigged their primaries against Bernie, we would be talking about President Sanders, not Trump. All the polls showed that he would've creamed Trump in the general.
Y'all should be mad with your party for getting Trump elected, not Trump. It was the DNC's own damn fault.
Independents are another matter. Your interests are too diluted to have an impact at present.
Those who voted for Trump had to survive the last 8 years, so those who didn't will have to take their turn at surviving the next 8. Or you can burn the house down cuz you didn't get your way. Just like Madonna wants to do ...
How come our new President installs a cabinet of elite wealthy folks, cuts off communications from the folks at National Parks, defunds health care delivery, tells major news organizations that he's not going to work with them...
and the Jade Helm conspiracy nuts aren't going crazy about it?
Because he is 'their' guy. If he is wrong/crazy it means they were wrong/duped, that just can't happen.
How come our new President installs a cabinet of elite wealthy folks, cuts off communications from the folks at National Parks, defunds health care delivery, tells major news organizations that he's not going to work with them...
and the Jade Helm conspiracy nuts aren't going crazy about it?
Buyer's remorse takes some time to really kick in.
Location: At the dude ranch / above the sea Gender:
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Jan 24, 2017 - 9:20pm
How come our new President installs a cabinet of elite wealthy folks, cuts off communications from the folks at National Parks, defunds health care delivery, tells major news organizations that he's not going to work with them...
and the Jade Helm conspiracy nuts aren't going crazy about it?
I guess Dept. of Homeland Security will oversee construction. If this is his idea of creating jobs through infrastructure projects, it's incredibly stupid and expensive for the number of jobs created.
During an appearance at the Department of Homeland Security on Wednesday, Mr. Trump plans to sign an executive order to direct federal funds to be shifted toward the building of a wall on the southern border, a signature promise of his campaign. He has argued that doing so is vital to gaining control over the illegal flow of immigrants into the United States.
“Big day planned on NATIONAL SECURITY tomorrow,” Mr. Trump wrote on Twitter on Tuesday night. “Among many other things, we will build the wall!”
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The Government Accountability Office has estimated that it could cost $6.5 million per mile to build a single-layer fence, and an additional $4.2 million per mile for roads and more fencing, according to congressional officials. Those estimates do not include maintenance of the fence along the nearly 2,000-mile border with Mexico. Representative Nancy Pelosi of California, the Democratic leader, said she thought even Republicans might balk at spending what she said could be $14 billion on a wall.
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Mr. Trump is also expected to target legal immigrants as early as this week, White House officials said, by halting a decades-old program that grants refuge to the world’s most vulnerable people as he begins the process of drastically curtailing it.
He is considering a policy that would temporarily freeze admissions of refugees from Syria and other majority-Muslim nations, and halve the number of displaced people who can be resettled on American soil. This would effectively bar the entry of people from Muslim countries — including Afghanistan, Iraq, Somalia and Syria — and might prioritize the admission of those who are Christian religious minorities.
