haresfur wrote: 
I was more interested in his referring to himself in the third person than in his misunderstanding of economic indicators.

 Red_Dragon wrote: 
Consumer confidence is a trailing, not leading, economic indicator. So it tells you that the economy has been doing ok for a while but says nothing about the future. 

Trump repeating some behaviors he criticized in Clinton

 islander wrote: 
Yes. Well said. 

People were kvetching about the electoral college back in 2000 as well. It becomes a sore spot whenever the electoral vote and popular vote disagree. Personally, I wish that more electoral voters had defected from Trump as a reflection of the man's lack of fitness to be president, but any form of democracy is occasionally going to give you unpleasant surprises. If you're complaining about the electoral college, there's a good chance your candidate wasn't as strong as you thought. 

Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to you all!  

 sirdroseph wrote: 
Yeah because the low population states have no extra check and balance in the senate where their power is inordinate with respect to their population .

So by historical happenstance of how lines were drawn when they were formed, a bunch of states get all kinds of extra power already. I'm in favour of geographical considerations being accounted for in governance but they already have that.

The presidential election is the only one where everyone is voting on the same slate of candidates and as Scott pointed out, is the only one where people who have a minority opinion in their region can have some actual say, however small.

 sirdroseph wrote: 
Everyone talks like California votes as one monolithic entity. Hillary took California by 4.5 million votes, yes. But that pendulum swings. The GOP took California 5 or 6 elections in a row; it's sort of alternated like that every couple of decades. I agree with the GOP that if it were a popular vote, California's right wing would vote for the GOP candidate more often (whereas now if they show up they might be voting Libertarian or Constitution or some protest vote). I agree with Trump, that the GOP would spend more time and money there, and have a fighting chance of picking up an easy million votes even if the state is overall going to go to the Democrats. That is, there were probably a million GOP votes left on the table there because what's the point? Vs. trying to pick up that many in Ohio, where Trump won by 450,000 votes... beating yourself up to get more out of Ohio is probably a waste of time. Wyoming would still be ignored, but my lone vote would count for something. 

 sirdroseph wrote: 
I have never said that Trump wasn't president or didn't deserve it. I don't think he is presidential, but that is something entirely different, I don't contest his right to take the seat.

This whole right wing argument (and yes it is a right wing argument) about California is simply stupid. No one has said let's not count Florida, or Texas, or any other state that went for trump.  I have a feeling you would be entirely against the electoral college if the situation were reversed.  

 islander wrote: 

And yet Donald Trump is our President, no small thing, this happened somehow. As far as popular vote goes, one word... California. Believe me I am no fan of Trump, but I have the opposite view than most concerning the electoral college, in my view, this election highlights the necessity for keeping it in place because......Kalifornia.

As far as being offended, it seems the offense was manifested through voting, no?

 sirdroseph wrote: 
Yeah, I'm still not convinced. He lost the popular vote by a huge margin, and just barely squeaked in on the electoral. I'll give him the win, but I'll still call him out as a bully on a regular basis when warranted. 

I do get the irony of forcing women to perform for him giving his history and language. If he's (or his supporters) are offended, then maybe they need a safe space?

 

 islander wrote: 

Oh I don't know, do something like have even more incentive to vote for idiots like Trump because their adversaries are even more annoying for calling everyone who doesn't agree with them Nazis and racist? Or in other words, you want Trump? Cause that is how you got Trump.

 Red_Dragon wrote: 
Don't be a stupid smarty....  

It would be hilarious if they did this. I wonder how everyone would react?

The Rockettes rehearsing for the inauguration.

 Red_Dragon wrote: 
Your big head is why.

 R_P wrote: 
This SHOULD be funny.

Childproof lock added to White House nuclear launch button

Please keep it in the family, Donald.
Does the fact that this is the Washington Post mean it's read as "false news" by some?   How crazy does this mo-fo has to get before...?

A tense new battle over nuclear arms erupts between Donald Trump and his staff

Is Anyone Actually a Scientist?

Trump Winery Looking to Add Foreign Workers