So how do you feel about his team and potential cabinet so far? From here it looks like a mix of insiders and lobbyists (all sycophants). He's already walking back commitments (probably good). You don't "drain the swamp", by inviting the mayor of swamptown to join your team.
Any surprises concerning the names floated? For me, not at all. Let's be honest, Trump has no political experience and is having to put together a team. He'll be delegating a lot. In my mind, he was always going to pick Washington insiders as who else was going to show him the ropes? All his talk of being an outsider as his sales pitch is fine and dandy when he described himself, but IMO the writing was on the wall regarding what he would have to do regarding his staff.
So how do you feel about his team and potential cabinet so far? From here it looks like a mix of insiders and lobbyists (all sycophants). He's already walking back commitments (probably good). You don't "drain the swamp", by inviting the mayor of swamptown to join your team.
I'm in a wait and see mode on his cabinet. We've heard all kinds of names floating around, but nothing reliable yet. No leaks is a good sign imo for starters. Tells me how good the people and the organization are. Trump is all about loyalty, both ways. We do see Christie being gently but assuredly being moved to the side because of Bridgegate thing. So DJT gets liabilities and associations. I'll be able to size them up pretty well cuz more than likely I've at least seen whoever they might be a couple of times on FBN. Not to be confused with FNC. Its business oriented with a dash of libertarianism.
But ... If we take Trump with the best of expectations, hiring the mayor is not a bad thing. First, it takes one to know one, which is part of the premise for my original support of Trump. Second, keep your friends close and your enemies closer. Or third and probably the least desirable ... fight fire with fire.
The man seems to be able to get along with anyone so far. He's been building or rebuilding relationships, talking to both sides of the aisle. He's even spoke with the likes of Jeb, Mitt and our gov, Kasich, who I have an extremely low opinion of now.
. or I could be completely wrong and bought a load of shit. It'll all move fast. Still optimistic. So who deals with the protesters ? The current POTUS or the new one ? Personally, I think Hillary and Obama should at least hold one press conference to tell them to knock it off and go home. They are the ones still in charge and the ones who are the beneficiaries of the protests (at least on paper so far) Probably won't be heeded, but they have to go through the motions one more time.
Would that mean an Old Testament God? Or a New Testament God that saved us from Cruz? Or just plain, "mysterious ways"?
In any case, I try to live my life in a way that it doesn't matter if God exists or not. Think that through.*
*with sincere respect to your beliefs and perspective. Yer a good bloke, OV.
A ha! A practitioner. The world (and "God") can use all the mansions a good man can build. Lotta homeless people out there... I perceive no disrespect. I only want to challenge the language and twist the concept, not the Word. Of course it matters, just maybe not the way you think it should or should not.
Vox, eh ? Another innocent independent media organization with no apparent agenda or bias, right ?
In August 2015, NBCUniversal made a $200 million equity investment in Vox Media Inc., valuing the company at more than $1 billion.
Riiiight ... More of the same from one of the purveyors of the Anti Trump left wing media narrative that tried to destroy Trump at all costs and invested so heavily in predicting everything wrong so far about this election and its outcome. And you're throwing out more predictions of gloom and doom from someone who has gotten everything else wrong so far, like all the others who never saw what was coming, when it was plain as day.
Your set up and the narrative preceding has made Trump look worse than the Devil incarnate....
kurtster, when you attack a person (or a news site) for some failing or bias instead of debunking their statements, it's generally a strong sign that you're trying very hard to run away from their arguments.
You were the guy who was so upset about the economy leaving people behind and how elites were feeding at the political trough. Trump made some very vague promises to bring back coal/manufacturing jobs, drain the swamp and get rid of illegal immigrants, but he didn't provide any details, did he?
Well guess what: people who make a living at analyzing the economy and budget proposals and policy plans have looked at Trump's statements and have called bul|$h*t on them. If you'd like me to provide links to other, non-Vox articles about the consequences of Trump's promises and policies, let me know.
But frankly, you should have been reading up on what a Trump presidency is going to mean to the economy and the working class. As far as I can tell, it's your butt on the line if Trump screws the pooch. And given that he's ripped people off over and over, and that he's never run a town, city, county, state or nation, I'm pretty sure his campaign promises and lies are going to hammer the economy.
This man is the end of America as we know it. Period. This country will never be the same. I would say: "God help us." but there is no god. Trump is proof enough of that.
What if there is a "God" and Trump is proof enough of that? Wait. Think it through now...
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Hmmmm... that "Not my president" rhetoric sounds familiar... oh yeah.... the idiots at KKK said the same thing when President Obama got elected! Geez! Be original people! Lol!
Me? Give the guy a chance... and if he messes up, I know he will be booted in 4 years...
What is REALLY hilarious is all those Republicans in Congress that spoke ill of President elect Trump, are now kissing his behind! And all those Democrats that were worshiping Hillary, are now looking for someone else to worship...
As if no one has been endlessly crying about Bush during the same time, long after he's been gone. I'm out numbered 10 to 1 on that. . CLICKY and look at the most recent postings dates. It never ended.
. and if you go back and re read the chain, I did not bring up the non voting. I simply responded (it was in the article) with an acknowledgement of the subject and indicated that it had no bearing on what was being talked about at the time nor was I interested in talking about it.
So how do you feel about his team and potential cabinet so far? From here it looks like a mix of insiders and lobbyists (all sycophants). He's already walking back commitments (probably good). You don't "drain the swamp", by inviting the mayor of swamptown to join your team.
1) I think many people are used to an America with a thoughtful, centered, effective leader. They've had one for 8 years. Inasmuch as most folks growing up have mostly just worried about their WiFi signal and not massive civil rights issues, this might be a nice kick in the ass that they need to work to keep America on the right path. It may mobilize the younger generation to get more involved to make social issues match their beliefs rather than leave negative changes unchallenged.
2) Trump talked big in order to get people to put him in office, but is already starting to back down from his platform. His team removed a promise to remove Muslims from his website. The big beautiful wall is now becoming a metaphor instead. He agreed that part of Obamacare might need to stay. Now that he's convinced people to put him in office, he has little need to fulfill his promises to those who voted him in. He's already President-Elect and they can't rescind. Simply dragging his feet or claiming political pressures prevent him from real change - these aren't impeachable offenses.
What we've learned now: the GOP had no viable leadership to stop the hostile takeover by an outsider and is therefore basically an anachronism; the Democratic party didn't provide an attractive enough candidate to win against a political virgin; and, we are about to enter a couple of years where the GOP will have every opportunity to implement their vision to improve America and then they will lose in the midterms.
The pressure right now is on our youth, to steer our nation. But mostly, the pressure is on the Republican party. They have the reins and if this country goes to hell we all know exactly whose fault it is. And they should never ever get another chance at anyone's vote if their leadership drags the nation down.
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Nov 11, 2016 - 9:34pm
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1) I think many people are used to an America with a thoughtful, centered, effective leader. They've had one for 8 years. Inasmuch as most folks growing up have mostly just worried about their WiFi signal and not massive civil rights issues, this might be a nice kick in the ass that they need to work to keep America on the right path. It may mobilize the younger generation to get more involved to make social issues match their beliefs rather than leave negative changes unchallenged.
2) Trump talked big in order to get people to put him in office, but is already starting to back down from his platform. His team removed a promise to remove Muslims from his website. The big beautiful wall is now becoming a metaphor instead. He agreed that part of Obamacare might need to stay. Now that he's convinced people to put him in office, he has little need to fulfill his promises to those who voted him in. He's already President-Elect and they can't rescind. Simply dragging his feet or claiming political pressures prevent him from real change - these aren't impeachable offenses.
What we've learned now: the GOP had no viable leadership to stop the hostile takeover by an outsider and is therefore basically an anachronism; the Democratic party didn't provide an attractive enough candidate to win against a political virgin; and, we are about to enter a couple of years where the GOP will have every opportunity to implement their vision to improve America and then they will lose in the midterms.
The pressure right now is on our youth, to steer our nation. But mostly, the pressure is on the Republican party. They have the reins and if this country goes to hell we all know exactly whose fault it is. And they should never ever get another chance at anyone's vote if their leadership drags the nation down.
Nice to have a thoughtful optimist around. We can hope...
This man is the end of America as we know it. Period. This country will never be the same. I would say: "God help us." but there is no god. Trump is proof enough of that.
1) I think many people are used to an America with a thoughtful, centered, effective leader. They've had one for 8 years. Inasmuch as most folks growing up have mostly just worried about their WiFi signal and not massive civil rights issues, this might be a nice kick in the ass that they need to work to keep America on the right path. It may mobilize the younger generation to get more involved to make social issues match their beliefs rather than leave negative changes unchallenged.
2) Trump talked big in order to get people to put him in office, but is already starting to back down from his platform. His team removed a promise to remove Muslims from his website. The big beautiful wall is now becoming a metaphor instead. He agreed that part of Obamacare might need to stay. Now that he's convinced people to put him in office, he has little need to fulfill his promises to those who voted him in. He's already President-Elect and they can't rescind. Simply dragging his feet or claiming political pressures prevent him from real change - these aren't impeachable offenses.
What we've learned now: the GOP had no viable leadership to stop the hostile takeover by an outsider and is therefore basically an anachronism; the Democratic party didn't provide an attractive enough candidate to win against a political virgin; and, we are about to enter a couple of years where the GOP will have every opportunity to implement their vision to improve America and then they will lose in the midterms.
The pressure right now is on our youth, to steer our nation. But mostly, the pressure is on the Republican party. They have the reins and if this country goes to hell we all know exactly whose fault it is. And they should never ever get another chance at anyone's vote if their leadership drags the nation down.
