[ ]   [ ]   [ ]                        [ ]      [ ]   [ ]

New Music - R_P - Jul 22, 2024 - 1:16pm
 
NY Times Strands - Steely_D - Jul 22, 2024 - 1:12pm
 
Joe Biden - thisbody - Jul 22, 2024 - 1:11pm
 
Trump - Steely_D - Jul 22, 2024 - 12:44pm
 
What makes you smile? - oldviolin - Jul 22, 2024 - 12:26pm
 
Name My Band - thisbody - Jul 22, 2024 - 12:25pm
 
Things You Thought Today - thisbody - Jul 22, 2024 - 12:11pm
 
Wordle - daily game - geoff_morphini - Jul 22, 2024 - 11:56am
 
Kamala Harris - thisbody - Jul 22, 2024 - 11:40am
 
Song of the Day - Steely_D - Jul 22, 2024 - 11:36am
 
Israel - R_P - Jul 22, 2024 - 11:29am
 
USA! USA! USA! - R_P - Jul 22, 2024 - 11:17am
 
2024 Elections! - Steely_D - Jul 22, 2024 - 11:15am
 
Message To Lucky - oldviolin - Jul 22, 2024 - 11:12am
 
NYTimes Connections - ptooey - Jul 22, 2024 - 10:50am
 
Kamala Harris - thisbody - Jul 22, 2024 - 7:57am
 
July 2024 Photo Theme - Summer - thisbody - Jul 22, 2024 - 7:39am
 
Radio Paradise Comments - GeneP59 - Jul 22, 2024 - 7:13am
 
Today in History - DaveInSaoMiguel - Jul 22, 2024 - 2:22am
 
Mixtape Culture Club - Isabeau - Jul 21, 2024 - 4:11pm
 
Jon Stewart interview - KurtfromLaQuinta - Jul 21, 2024 - 3:08pm
 
Acoustic Guitar - oldviolin - Jul 21, 2024 - 1:44pm
 
Musky Mythology - R_P - Jul 21, 2024 - 1:21pm
 
Play the Blues - oldviolin - Jul 21, 2024 - 10:20am
 
Gardeners Photos - KurtfromLaQuinta - Jul 21, 2024 - 7:39am
 
What Are You Going To Do Today? - KurtfromLaQuinta - Jul 21, 2024 - 7:36am
 
The Human Condition - oldviolin - Jul 20, 2024 - 7:44pm
 
Bug Reports & Feature Requests - ladron - Jul 20, 2024 - 7:26pm
 
• • • The Once-a-Day • • •  - oldviolin - Jul 20, 2024 - 7:22pm
 
Banksy! - R_P - Jul 20, 2024 - 5:16pm
 
YouTube: Music-Videos - oldviolin - Jul 20, 2024 - 5:05pm
 
Republican Party - thisbody - Jul 20, 2024 - 3:58pm
 
Project 2025 - Isabeau - Jul 20, 2024 - 11:45am
 
RightWingNutZ - rgio - Jul 20, 2024 - 10:39am
 
COVID-19 - Isabeau - Jul 20, 2024 - 6:40am
 
Climate Change - Isabeau - Jul 20, 2024 - 6:39am
 
Gotta Get Your Drink On - Steely_D - Jul 19, 2024 - 8:42pm
 
favorite love songs - oldviolin - Jul 19, 2024 - 7:38pm
 
The Republican Convention - Red_Dragon - Jul 19, 2024 - 6:37pm
 
Positive Thoughts and Prayer Requests - oldviolin - Jul 19, 2024 - 4:50pm
 
Russia - R_P - Jul 19, 2024 - 2:49pm
 
The Obituary Page - GeneP59 - Jul 19, 2024 - 12:00pm
 
Solar / Wind / Geothermal / Efficiency Energy - sunybuny - Jul 19, 2024 - 7:02am
 
Vinyl Only Spin List - hialtidude - Jul 19, 2024 - 6:58am
 
Europe - thisbody - Jul 18, 2024 - 10:59pm
 
260,000 Posts in one thread? - oldviolin - Jul 18, 2024 - 8:43pm
 
Poetry Forum - oldviolin - Jul 18, 2024 - 8:40pm
 
Living in America - black321 - Jul 18, 2024 - 8:14pm
 
Lyrics that are stuck in your head today... - oldviolin - Jul 18, 2024 - 10:28am
 
kurtster's quiet vinyl - kurtster - Jul 17, 2024 - 7:45pm
 
What the hell OV? - oldviolin - Jul 17, 2024 - 2:04pm
 
Best Song Comments. - q4Fry - Jul 17, 2024 - 7:32am
 
Rhetorical questions - sunybuny - Jul 17, 2024 - 7:29am
 
What questions would you like to answer for the world? - oldviolin - Jul 16, 2024 - 5:43pm
 
Democratic Party - Red_Dragon - Jul 16, 2024 - 4:48pm
 
Race in America - Red_Dragon - Jul 16, 2024 - 3:53pm
 
Live Music - skyguy - Jul 16, 2024 - 3:44pm
 
Guns - Red_Dragon - Jul 16, 2024 - 3:43pm
 
Gimmie 5 Kurt! - thisbody - Jul 16, 2024 - 12:30pm
 
China - thisbody - Jul 16, 2024 - 12:05pm
 
Bear! - Beaker - Jul 16, 2024 - 6:43am
 
Favorite Quotes - Isabeau - Jul 15, 2024 - 3:43pm
 
Words that should be put on the substitutes bench for a year - Isabeau - Jul 15, 2024 - 12:25pm
 
The Truth About (Modern) Popular Music - Proclivities - Jul 15, 2024 - 8:18am
 
Please don't ban me, but: Taylor Swift... - sunybuny - Jul 15, 2024 - 4:55am
 
Pernicious Pious Proclivities Particularized Prodigiously - R_P - Jul 14, 2024 - 12:52pm
 
Media Bias - Beaker - Jul 14, 2024 - 9:46am
 
what the hell, miamizsun? - oldviolin - Jul 14, 2024 - 7:51am
 
AH! There's an elephant in the room! - Red_Dragon - Jul 13, 2024 - 3:42pm
 
Outstanding Covers - DaveInSaoMiguel - Jul 13, 2024 - 12:49pm
 
Evolution! - R_P - Jul 13, 2024 - 10:34am
 
Eclectic Sound-Drops - oldviolin - Jul 13, 2024 - 10:23am
 
RP on Mac Just Stopped Working - tourtelot - Jul 12, 2024 - 9:35pm
 
Are they married yet? YES THEY ARE! - Manbird - Jul 12, 2024 - 2:51pm
 
Tech & Science - Manbird - Jul 12, 2024 - 2:46pm
 
Index » Radio Paradise/General » General Discussion » Trump Page: Previous  1, 2, 3 ... 1051, 1052, 1053 ... 1173, 1174, 1175  Next
Post to this Topic
kcar

kcar Avatar



Posted: Aug 4, 2016 - 4:11pm

 Red_Dragon wrote: 

THUD.
 

 
This article indicates that Trump's advisers think the best and perhaps only way for him to win is to capture Florida, Pennsylvania, Ohio and keep North Carolina voting red. An 11-point Clinton lead in PA as reported in your linked story makes that a tough task. 

According to this new NYT story , Hillary is also leading in Florida by six points (based on a poll conducted by Suffolk University of Boston, MA). 

This link shows Trump and Clinton effectively tied in Ohio.

Things have not been going well for Trump at all since the start of the Democratic convention.

Jumping into Lazy8's and VV's conversation about Trump's plans and the impact of the campaign on the Trump brand: I wonder if Trump has thought that far ahead. Trump likes to link his name to "success" and luxury—hence the luxury residences and golf courses bearing his name. 

But if you're in Trump's targeted income bracket, you have a lot of options as to where to live and play. Do you really want to be associated with Trump's bigotry, arrogance and wild public displays of ignorance? Would you want to live in a building with Trump's name on it?

This is a bigger deal, I think, in the Middle East, where apparently Trump succeeded in really boosting his brand with the very rich. Now he may have destroyed that with his calls for blocking Muslim immigration into the US. 

Trump can't go back to his TV show, I think—which network would carry him now. Does he go down-market and push "affordable luxury" such as Trump wine and Trump steaks to middle- and lower-class folks? 


Red_Dragon

Red_Dragon Avatar

Location: Dumbf*ckistan


Posted: Aug 4, 2016 - 3:48pm

Donald Trump's support collapses in 3 of the most important major battlegrounds
Red_Dragon

Red_Dragon Avatar

Location: Dumbf*ckistan


Posted: Aug 4, 2016 - 3:42pm

 VV wrote:

I'm just employing the "where there's smoke"... there's fire philosophy.
 
This exploration didn't just randomly pop up by accident so soon after the convention. I think it's possibly being fueled by Trump and his insiders. I think Trump has a number in his head that... if the polls indicate he is trailing Hillary by... he's going to pull the plug. I'm also thinking that the last thing he wants to do is match up with Hillary in the debates and get embarrassed. Either situation could be a tipping point.

I'm going "all in" that he quits. I would be very surprised if that doesn't happen. He probably will wait until the debates to quit and employ the "scorched earth" approach. If I go down... I'm taking my party with me and leave little time to have them prop up an alternate candidate. "That'll show 'em"!  

 
Agree 100%

As nutty as he is, he knows he'll have his ass handed to him in a debate; therefore it will never happen. 
VV

VV Avatar

Gender: Male


Posted: Aug 4, 2016 - 3:22pm

 Lazy8 wrote:
 VV wrote:
I'm just employing the "where there's smoke"... there's fire philosophy.
 
This exploration didn't just randomly pop up by accident so soon after the convention. I think it's possibly being fueled by Trump and his insiders. I think Trump has a number in his head that... if the polls indicate he is trailing Hillary by... he's going to pull the plug. I'm also thinking that the last thing he wants to do is match up with Hillary in the debates and get embarrassed. Either situation could be a tipping point.

I'm going "all in" that he quits. I would be very surprised if that doesn't happen. He probably will wait until the debates to quit and employ the "scorched earth" approach. If I go down... I'm taking my party with me and leave little time to have them prop up an alternate candidate. "That'll show 'em"!  

Then we can have layer upon layer of conspiracy theories:He was working for Hillary all along and now he'll become Secretary of State.
  1. He's doing it to pump up real estate prices on a man-made offshore private country he's secretly building, hoping to sell to people looking for a retreat for the End Times he's working so hard to bring about
  2. It's all part of a reality TV show starting on Fox next season; he's being followed by cameras everywhere he goes and he needs to sell ads
  3. He lost a golf bet in 2014 and had to put on the most elaborate practical joke in history as a consequence
If he thinks he can just go back to his business empire after this he is beyond delusional. The Trump Brand used to be just tacky; now it's toxic.

 
I thought about this. I think he'll be toxic in terms of ever trying to enter the political arena again. I can't see that ever happening under any circumstances. Forget about trying to become a political power broker either... not going to happen.

In terms of his "brand"... yes, it will take a hit but I think he could rebound. I don't think his businesses would go under. He could just state that he was letting his kids run his businesses and lay low for a while before he actively takes the reins again.

In terms of his international dealings? I think that he could actually see an increase in business there which would offset any domestic hit that he would take. Think about it... wouldn't there be increased interest in any potential foreign business partners to want to meet the maverick/oddity that made a serious bid to become president? He could play that to his advantage.

The thing that will dog him for a very long time will be that the press will quickly jump on anything that he does while wearing his "business hat" that is at odds with what he expressed as a presidential candidate. They will be quick and merciless in exposing any hypocrisy as he certainly hasn't scored any goodwill with the press.    

 


kcar

kcar Avatar



Posted: Aug 4, 2016 - 3:06pm

 kurtster wrote:

:bump:   for those who do not backscroll 

 
Kurtster, ScottN's post gives a link to a CNBC article on Scarborough's report that Trump asked a foreign policy expert why we couldn't nuclear weapons during a briefing that took place "several months ago." That article contains a video clip of Scarborough stating that rumor on MSNBC TV. Scarborough's report has been picked up by a number of news sites, as shown by re-doing the Google search I performed: 

https://www.google.com/searchq=Trump+responds+to+Joe+Scarborough+report+on+using+nuclear+weapons&source=lnms&tbm=nws&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjT0NHJ36jOAhWi7YMKHfr5Az0Q_AUICCgB

If that link doesn't work, try it via tinyurl.com:   https://tinyurl.com/h7lsebh

Note that the Google search I performed tried to find a response by Trump to Scarborough's report. I looked only at the first two pages of hits from that Google search but could find no link to a comment, rebuttal or refutation from Trump or his staff concerning that Scarborough statement. 

So Trump does not seem to be denying Scarborough's report. That's the best I can do for you. It'd be great if the foreign policy expert in question stepped forward, but he/she may not want to for fear of damage to career or some sort of reprisal.  
steeler

steeler Avatar

Location: Perched on the precipice of the cauldron of truth


Posted: Aug 4, 2016 - 3:05pm

 kurtster wrote:

Since I did ask a question in my post, why don't you take a stab at it and then I'll answer your's.

 
I think if Trump really does not have a handle on the deterrence theory of nuclear weapons, it is a serious concern.

 

   




kurtster

kurtster Avatar

Location: where fear is not a virtue
Gender: Male


Posted: Aug 4, 2016 - 3:01pm

 steeler wrote:
 kurtster wrote:

No, it's not in the class of a gaffe or absurdity.  If it's true, I think that it would be a deal breaker for a lot of Trump supporters or those on the fence.

I'll give you that Trump supporters give him a pass on a lot of things, but to think this would get a pass is pretty demeaning to the actual intelligence of Trump supporters.

And to lump it into the category of a gaffe or absurdity by those who oppose Trump, how could it be shrugged off as meaningless if its true ?  I don't get that either.  This is pretty serious stuff, imo.  

What will be telling is how long it lasts in the news cycle.

2¢ 

How do you feel about his statements suggesting that the U.S. might not come to the aid of Baltic nations under NATO in the event of a Russian invasion unless those Baltic nations had met their obligations to the U.S.?

And his very recent comments that Putin would not invade the Ukraine?  



 
Since I did ask a question in my post, why don't you take a stab at it and then I'll answer your's.
Lazy8

Lazy8 Avatar

Location: The Gallatin Valley of Montana
Gender: Male


Posted: Aug 4, 2016 - 2:51pm

 VV wrote:
I'm just employing the "where there's smoke"... there's fire philosophy.
 
This exploration didn't just randomly pop up by accident so soon after the convention. I think it's possibly being fueled by Trump and his insiders. I think Trump has a number in his head that... if the polls indicate he is trailing Hillary by... he's going to pull the plug. I'm also thinking that the last thing he wants to do is match up with Hillary in the debates and get embarrassed. Either situation could be a tipping point.

I'm going "all in" that he quits. I would be very surprised if that doesn't happen. He probably will wait until the debates to quit and employ the "scorched earth" approach. If I go down... I'm taking my party with me and leave little time to have them prop up an alternate candidate. "That'll show 'em"!  

Then we can have layer upon layer of conspiracy theories:He was working for Hillary all along and now he'll become Secretary of State.
  1. He's doing it to pump up real estate prices on a man-made offshore private country he's secretly building, hoping to sell to people looking for a retreat for the End Times he's working so hard to bring about
  2. It's all part of a reality TV show starting on Fox next season; he's being followed by cameras everywhere he goes and he needs to sell ads
  3. He lost a golf bet in 2014 and had to put on the most elaborate practical joke in history as a consequence
If he thinks he can just go back to his business empire after this he is beyond delusional. The Trump Brand used to be just tacky; now it's toxic.
Steely_D

Steely_D Avatar

Location: Biscayne Bay
Gender: Male


Posted: Aug 4, 2016 - 2:49pm

 VV wrote:

I'm just employing the "where there's smoke"... there's fire philosophy.
 
This exploration didn't just randomly pop up by accident so soon after the convention. I think it's possibly being fueled by Trump and his insiders. I think Trump has a number in his head that... if the polls indicate he is trailing Hillary by... he's going to pull the plug. I'm also thinking that the last thing he wants to do is match up with Hillary in the debates and get embarrassed. Either situation could be a tipping point.

I'm going "all in" that he quits. I would be very surprised if that doesn't happen. He probably will wait until the debates to quit and employ the "scorched earth" approach. If I go down... I'm taking my party with me and leave little time to have them prop up an alternate candidate. "That'll show 'em"!  

 
That would actually give a third party candidate a snowball's chance.
aflanigan

aflanigan Avatar

Location: At Sea
Gender: Male


Posted: Aug 4, 2016 - 2:26pm

 VV wrote:

I'm going "all in" that he quits. I would be very surprised if that doesn't happen. He probably will wait until the debates to quit and employ the "scorched earth" approach. If I go down... I'm taking my party with me and leave little time to have them prop up an alternate candidate. "That'll show 'em"!  

 
I'm tempted to call your "all in" bet with some salsa or sweet corn, but I'm afraid I might lose.
meower

meower Avatar

Location: i believe, i believe, it's silly, but I believe
Gender: Female


Posted: Aug 4, 2016 - 2:16pm

 VV wrote:

I'm just employing the "where there's smoke"... there's fire philosophy.
 
This exploration didn't just randomly pop up by accident so soon after the convention. I think it's possibly being fueled by Trump and his insiders. I think Trump has a number in his head that... if the polls indicate he is trailing Hillary by... he's going to pull the plug. I'm also thinking that the last thing he wants to do is match up with Hillary in the debates and get embarrassed. Either situation could be a tipping point.

I'm going "all in" that he quits. I would be very surprised if that doesn't happen. He probably will wait until the debates to quit and employ the "scorched earth" approach. If I go down... I'm taking my party with me and leave little time to have them prop up an alternate candidate. "That'll show 'em"!  

 
that sounds like a great plan.
VV

VV Avatar

Gender: Male


Posted: Aug 4, 2016 - 2:13pm

 Steely_D wrote:

Senior GOP Officials Exploring Options if Trump Drops Out


This does not means he's dropping out. It's like wearing a seat belt - you do it just in case.


 
I'm just employing the "where there's smoke"... there's fire philosophy.
 
This exploration didn't just randomly pop up by accident so soon after the convention. I think it's possibly being fueled by Trump and his insiders. I think Trump has a number in his head that... if the polls indicate he is trailing Hillary by... he's going to pull the plug. I'm also thinking that the last thing he wants to do is match up with Hillary in the debates and get embarrassed. Either situation could be a tipping point.

I'm going "all in" that he quits. I would be very surprised if that doesn't happen. He probably will wait until the debates to quit and employ the "scorched earth" approach. If I go down... I'm taking my party with me and leave little time to have them prop up an alternate candidate. "That'll show 'em"!  
bokey

bokey Avatar

Gender: Male


Posted: Aug 4, 2016 - 2:12pm

 VV wrote:


Finally... a voice of reason!
 
 
 
Are you wrongfully incarcerated and waiting on death row? Suffering a debilitating illness that causes intense pain with every waking moment? If not, your mega-whining is hollow.

If everything sucks so bad perhaps you're just living in sh*tty country and are in need a change of scenery? I hear Canada is nice.
 

 
Congrats...in that one post you've effectively negated all your previous posts and sounded more stupid than anything Trump has demonstrated so far.


 
Glad to help.Let me know if you need anything.
VV

VV Avatar

Gender: Male


Posted: Aug 4, 2016 - 1:48pm

 bokey wrote:

Here is my honest opinion-fuck Trump,Fuck Hillary,fuck this world and everyone in it.Let them all fucking die like the dumbass pieces of shit that they are.

This world wants to be Obamatized? Fine,fuck it all.

Nuke this fucking piece of shit planet and kill every living thing on it.

 

Finally... a voice of reason!
 
 
 
Are you wrongfully incarcerated and waiting on death row? Suffering a debilitating illness that causes intense pain with every waking moment? If not, your mega-whining is hollow.

If everything sucks so bad perhaps you're just living in sh*tty country and are in need a change of scenery? I hear Canada is nice.
 

 
Congrats...in that one post you've effectively negated all your previous posts and sounded more stupid than anything Trump has demonstrated so far.



Steely_D

Steely_D Avatar

Location: Biscayne Bay
Gender: Male


Posted: Aug 4, 2016 - 1:03pm

Senior GOP Officials Exploring Options if Trump Drops Out


This does not means he's dropping out. It's like wearing a seat belt - you do it just in case.

bokey

bokey Avatar

Gender: Male


Posted: Aug 4, 2016 - 1:00pm

 VV wrote:

What? You were expecting an emoji instead? OK here ya go: {#Yes}

 
C'mon don't tell me you want the distinction of being the last man on the Titanic?
The ship is sinking before your very eyes. Far smarter people than you or I in the Republican party can see it...

Trumpkins criticize their candidate — on the record



Play the role of martyr if you like. My bet is that Trump is working on concocting a litany of excuses/blame for why he had to quit the race. I think that (while there is still a choice) he would rather be seen as a quitter than a loser. I'm betting there is a 90% or better chance that he'll drop out before the first debate.

I suppose that if he quits you will still support his decision and rationalize his reasons for doing so? Or will you take the tougher road and man-up and say... yeah, the guy wasn't cut out for the job?
 
Here is my honest opinion-fuck Trump,Fuck Hillary,fuck this world and everyone in it.Let them all fucking die like the dumbass pieces of shit that they are.

This world wants to be Obamatized? Fine,fuck it all.

Nuke this fucking piece of shit planet and kill every living thing on it.
steeler

steeler Avatar

Location: Perched on the precipice of the cauldron of truth


Posted: Aug 4, 2016 - 12:26pm

 kurtster wrote:

No, it's not in the class of a gaffe or absurdity.  If it's true, I think that it would be a deal breaker for a lot of Trump supporters or those on the fence.

I'll give you that Trump supporters give him a pass on a lot of things, but to think this would get a pass is pretty demeaning to the actual intelligence of Trump supporters.

And to lump it into the category of a gaffe or absurdity by those who oppose Trump, how could it be shrugged off as meaningless if its true ?  I don't get that either.  This is pretty serious stuff, imo.  

What will be telling is how long it lasts in the news cycle.

2¢ 

 
How do you feel about his statements suggesting that the U.S. might not come to the aid of Baltic nations under NATO in the event of a Russian invasion unless those Baltic nations had met their obligations to the U.S.?

And his very recent comments that Putin would not invade the Ukraine?  


aflanigan

aflanigan Avatar

Location: At Sea
Gender: Male


Posted: Aug 4, 2016 - 12:12pm

 VV wrote: 
Clothespins for everyone!!

The Clothespin Campaign 
aflanigan

aflanigan Avatar

Location: At Sea
Gender: Male


Posted: Aug 4, 2016 - 12:08pm

 kurtster wrote:

No, it's not in the class of a gaffe or absurdity.  If it's true, I think that it would be a deal breaker for a lot of Trump supporters or those on the fence.

I'll give you that Trump supporters give him a pass on a lot of things, but to think this would get a pass is pretty demeaning to the actual intelligence of Trump supporters.

And to lump it into the category of a gaffe or absurdity by those who oppose Trump, how could it be shrugged off as meaningless if its true ?  I don't get that either.  This is pretty serious stuff, imo.  

What will be telling is how long it lasts in the news cycle.

2¢ 

 
See HERE

Noonan doesn't say it explicitly, but it appears he thinks that even if the anecdote is not true, and Trump is simply a narcissist rather than certifiably unhinged, he is not fit for the POTUS job.
kurtster

kurtster Avatar

Location: where fear is not a virtue
Gender: Male


Posted: Aug 4, 2016 - 12:03pm

 Proclivities wrote:

Even if it's true it's just one of scores of gaffes, absurdities and outright lies that Trump has committed, 

 
No, it's not in the class of a gaffe or absurdity.  If it's true, I think that it would be a deal breaker for a lot of Trump supporters or those on the fence.

I'll give you that Trump supporters give him a pass on a lot of things, but to think this would get a pass is pretty demeaning to the actual intelligence of Trump supporters.

And to lump it into the category of a gaffe or absurdity by those who oppose Trump, how could it be shrugged off as meaningless if its true ?  I don't get that either.  This is pretty serious stuff, imo.  

What will be telling is how long it lasts in the news cycle.

2¢ 
Page: Previous  1, 2, 3 ... 1051, 1052, 1053 ... 1173, 1174, 1175  Next