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Posted: Dec 16, 2016 - 9:46am

Army Corps Of Engineers To Install All-Seeing Eye On Top Of Trump Tower

 
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Posted: Dec 16, 2016 - 9:34am

He's not even in office yet and already he's doing great at foreign policy. He's like, a really smart guy.
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Posted: Dec 16, 2016 - 4:29am

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It's like false claim inception right here... Where is the proof from the CIA? The USA just needs a new enemy after Cuba, Vietnam, the Sovjets, Iraq, Al Quaida, Iraq again, North Korea, Afghanistan, Assad and ISISI. Now it's Russia. Trump is Russian hacks. We need moar money for weapons because Russian army. We need laws against privacy because Russian spies. Be affraid! Be very affraid! Look what they have done already! Look at that maniac that will be our president!
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Posted: Dec 15, 2016 - 6:33pm

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Posted: Dec 15, 2016 - 12:36pm

 miamizsun wrote:

which begs the question

where's dennis rodman when you need him?

let's get this guy on board this transition team asap

 
But where are the clowns? Send in the clowns
Don't bother they're here...

Pic of Heath Ledger as The Joker from a Batman movie 


Our current state of affairs reminds me of the moment in Batman movies when you realize that the bad guys and crazies have taken over Gotham...

 


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Posted: Dec 15, 2016 - 5:09am

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ironic that his use of Twitter put Trump in the White House and now being shunned,

here's a  collision course that could get scary, a drunk Kim Jong Un http://nypost.com/2016/12/14/drunk-kim-jong-un-forces-officials-to-write-apology-letters-then-forgets-it/

 
which begs the question

where's dennis rodman when you need him?

let's get this guy on board this transition team asap


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Posted: Dec 15, 2016 - 4:45am

 Skydog wrote:

ironic that his use of Twitter put Trump in the White House and now being shunned,

here's a  collision course that could get scary, a drunk Kim Jong Un http://nypost.com/2016/12/14/drunk-kim-jong-un-forces-officials-to-write-apology-letters-then-forgets-it/

 
Which begs the question: which is more dangerous; a drunken demagogue or a sober one?
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Posted: Dec 15, 2016 - 4:21am

 Red_Dragon wrote: 
ironic that his use of Twitter put Trump in the White House and now being shunned,

here's a  collision course that could get scary, a drunk Kim Jong Un http://nypost.com/2016/12/14/drunk-kim-jong-un-forces-officials-to-write-apology-letters-then-forgets-it/
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Posted: Dec 15, 2016 - 4:10am

I'm too petty for my shirt, to petty for my shirt...
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Posted: Dec 14, 2016 - 3:19pm

Another tweet from Gollum J. Trump
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Posted: Dec 14, 2016 - 3:15pm

 miamizsun wrote:


i mean everything but his tax returns

 
Ah, OK.

The takeaway is that his larger-than-normal financial disclosure statement did not make up for the lack of federal income tax information.

That lack existed because he refused to release income tax returns, breaking with longstanding tradition among presidential candidates. 

It's going to be hard to ensure that Trump's business interests do not guide our foreign policy or changes to domestic programs. Trump's supporters were very upset about the potential impact of Clinton Foundation donations on our policies, but the situation with Trump is much worse. The Clinton Foundation's records were and are public. Trump's ties are much less so.  
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Posted: Dec 14, 2016 - 3:01pm

 kcar wrote:
"in light of all the stuff this guy put out there (and he put a lot)" 

I'm not sure what stuff you're referring to—
 

i mean everything but his tax returns
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Posted: Dec 14, 2016 - 2:57pm

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I have been trying to figure out the Tillerson selection — from my guess as to Trump 's perspective, and giving a heaping portion of benefit of the doubt. Here is what I have come up with: throughout his campaign, and now in these days of being President-elect, Trump has consistently expressed his desire for improving  relations with Russia. Conspicuously, he has not done the same in regards to China. With China, it has been more threats and warnings about there being a new sheriff in town. Trump sees Russia as a more natural ally, one that we can do "business" with. He has done lots of business with Russian interests. He believes that a business approach is one the Russians understand, and that can be used to reason with them on all issues. plus, the Russians need  their ties to the American economy and Americam businesses. the wealth of Putin and his cronies is tied up in this system. Witness the contracts Russia has with Exxon Mobil for Arctic oil exploration, currently dormant because of sanctions imposed due to Crimea and Ukraine. In sum, Trump believes he can deal successfully with Russia in a businessman to businessman level, which probably is how he views everything. The same is not as true with China. The ideology is a stronger driver there and the trade imbalance provides China with more flexibility to withstand pressure exerted by the U.S. So, that brings us to Tillerson, the surprise choice for Secretary of State who came out of nowhere in the last week or so to get the nod. What are his credentials for this job? His main credential appears to be that as head of Excon Mobil he has had extensive business relations in Russia, has brokered major deals there, and has a rather longstanding business relationship with Putin himself. The Russians  like him and know they can do business with him.  If Trump's view is to cultivate Russia as an ally, one that can be counted on as leverage against China, this may appear to make sense. Of course, what I have painted here is way too simple of a foreign policy picture. Still, one might be able to discern the emerging poles of Trump's foreign policy tent. An awful lot riding on a new relationship with Russia — and conducting foreign policy and seeing the world through a businessman's prism. Right now, with the scant information I have read about Tillerson, it is the only way I can make sense of his selection, nothing against him as an individual, it is just that I see little evidence of his having been steeped much in the intricacies of the Byzantine world of foreign policy. What Trump sees as his main qualification — his relationship with Putin and other top Russians - is what makes others (McCain, Graham, Rubio) nervous. If nothing else, it is an unorthodox pick. 
 
i'm behind on my reading but i gleaned this article below

and i'm not sure why raimondo (who often says he's deliberately provocative) thinks trump is the lesser hawk (between he and clinton)

i'll get the back story sooner or later

iirc this also this flies in the face of what i think trump has said before (b them and take the oil) or something similar
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Why They Hate Rex Tillerson

He’s not John Bolton, he’s not Mitt Romney, and he’s for peace with Russia

President-elect Donald Trump’s choice for Secretary of State is the CEO of Exxon, a company that has always opposed the American empire’s favorite ploy short of war: economic sanctions. Exxon is one of the principal supporters of USA Engage, a business lobby that has for years argued against Iranian and Iraqi sanctions, and that believes in “positively engaging other societies through diplomacy, multilateral cooperation, the presence of American organizations,” and that “the best practices of American companies and humanitarian exchanges better advances U.S. objectives than punitive unilateral economic sanctions.”

Contrary to the brainless leftist narrative that characterizes Big Oil as the driving force behind the War Party – remember “No Blood for Oil!”? – the reality is that the oil industry, including Exxonopposed the Iraq war, just as they opposed the economic sanctions that preceded it. Iran sanctions are equally unpopular with the oil industry, and, as a New Yorker profile of Tillerson put it: “In general, Tillerson and ExxonMobil have argued against economic sanctions as an instrument of American foreign policy.”

 



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Posted: Dec 14, 2016 - 2:48pm

 miamizsun wrote:


in light of all the stuff this guy put out there (and he put a lot)

i'm thinking if that didn't sway people i doubt his tax returns would have made difference (esp with his supporters)

of course i could be wrong

 
"in light of all the stuff this guy put out there (and he put a lot)" 


I'm not sure what stuff you're referring to—perhaps his financial disclosure statement—but his failure to release tax returns allowed Trump to conceal a great deal of information. I don't think the quality and quantity of financial information released affected his level of support amongst core supporters, but a full disclosure might have swung more undecided voters against him. The Politifact article mentioned below states that Trump's financial disclosure statement did NOT make up the lack of information about his income tax returns. 

These NYT articles touch on the revelation from his 1995 tax return that he lost $916 million, and the fact (IIRC confirmed by Trump's retired tax attorney) that he used a legally dubious method of using that huge loss to avoid paying federal income taxes for up to 18 years. An unknown source gave the New York Times a copy of that tax return. Trump's retired tax attorney confirmed the authenticity of that copy. 

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/02/us/politics/donald-trump-taxes.html

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/01/us/politics/donald-trump-tax.html

Tax experts who reviewed the newly obtained documents for The New York Times said Mr. Trump’s tax avoidance maneuver, conjured from ambiguous provisions of highly technical tax court rulings, clearly pushed the edge of the envelope of what tax laws permitted at the time. “Whatever loophole existed was not ‘exploited’ here, but stretched beyond any recognition,” said Steven M. Rosenthal, a senior fellow at the nonpartisan Tax Policy Center who helped draft tax legislation in the early 1990s.

Moreover, the tax experts said the maneuver trampled a core tenet of American tax policy by conferring enormous tax benefits on Mr. Trump for losing vast amounts of other people’s money — in this case, money investors and banks had entrusted to him to build a casino empire in Atlantic City.

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/us/politics/donald-trump-taxes-explained.html

This Politifact.com article
disputes Trump's claim that his financial disclosure statement makes up for his refusal to release his tax returns.

"It is true that Trump's businesses have received a lot of attention, but without the release of Trump's tax returns, we don't know a lot about his personal financial situation," said Lawrence White, an economist at New York University’s Stern School of Business.

...

Tax returns also can give a clearer picture of the candidate’s liquid assets. "Trump can inflate his image of being rich on the financial disclosure forms, but you can get a better sense of how much he’s actually making from his tax returns," said Williams, who did not support Trump during the GOP primary and now says he’s officially undecided on the presidential race.

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Trump wouldn’t necessarily qualify for the carried-interest tax, but as a someone in the real-estate business, he would have access to specialized tax breaks of his own, Sloan said.

There is a "provision in tax law that allows people who spend at least half their working time as real-estate or development professionals to get depreciation deductions not available to other investors," he said. "That’s a huge loophole, and it’s gotten nothing like the attention that carried interest has gotten."

The fact that Trump has not run for office before or served in government makes the scrutiny of his business dealings especially important for those who care about transparency. Yet the fact that he runs a privately held company makes it hard for outsiders to get a handle on his personal finances as long as no public tax filing is available, experts said.

 




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Posted: Dec 14, 2016 - 2:24pm

 miamizsun wrote:


in light of all the stuff this guy put out there (and he put a lot)

i'm thinking if that didn't sway people i doubt his tax returns would have made difference (esp with his supporters)

of course i could be wrong

 
You probably have a point. To make a difference would require those who voted for him to care about things beyond his 4th grade school yard bully routine. *shrug*
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Posted: Dec 14, 2016 - 2:17pm

 Red_Dragon wrote:

The reason his tax returns are a big deal is because of his refusal to release them. He was born into wealth, he didn't go from rags to riches; and his riches are probably greatly exaggerated.

 

in light of all the stuff this guy put out there (and he put a lot)

i'm thinking if that didn't sway people i doubt his tax returns would have made difference (esp with his supporters)

of course i could be wrong
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Posted: Dec 14, 2016 - 2:07pm

 miamizsun wrote:

i was referring to his appointees

however a father helping his son (i help mine) and tax returns (as long as they're ok with the irs) shouldn't really have any bearing on who you are

money leaves a trail and i'm sure if there were something to it we'd know by now (or i'd like to think we would know by now)

in today's environment laundering money isn't that easy (there are gov lists for suspects)

my primary concern with trump and clinton is warmongering 

peace
 

 
The reason his tax returns are a big deal is because of his refusal to release them. He was born into wealth, he didn't go from rags to riches; and his riches are probably greatly exaggerated.
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Posted: Dec 14, 2016 - 2:05pm

 Red_Dragon wrote:
I would argue that he hasn't been all that successful. He was born with a silver spoon in his mouth and daddy helped him out - a lot. Also, why will he STILL not release his tax returns - the ONLY presidential candidate anyone can remember who hasn't? Perhaps because in addition to revealing extensive financial ties to Russia, they'll also point out that he's not worth anywhere near what he claims to be worth.
 
i was referring to his appointees

however a father helping his son (i help mine) and tax returns (as long as they're ok with the irs) shouldn't really have any bearing on who you are

money leaves a trail and i'm sure if there were something to it we'd know by now (or i'd like to think we would know by now)

in today's environment laundering money isn't that easy (there are gov lists for suspects)

my primary concern with trump and clinton is warmongering 

peace
 
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Posted: Dec 14, 2016 - 12:52pm

Another glowing endorsement.
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Posted: Dec 14, 2016 - 12:36pm

 Kaw wrote:

Still prefering the snake above the rhinoceros?
 

 
Not sure WTF that's supposed to mean. 

More like this: still preferring the competent, experienced, trained and intelligent woman over the incessantly lying, narcissistic, reality-denying, mentally ill f*cktard.  

I used to ask what it would take for Dubya's supporters to shed the scales from their eyes. I'm not going to bore you with a recount of Bush's screwups and failures. 

I ask the same question now about Trump. It won't take nearly as many disasters for Trump's supporters to lose faith, I suspect, but Trump stands an excellent chance of committing far more disasters and being a far worse President than Dubya. 

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:

I'm glad someone finally pointed this out. But, given a totally clean slate, you think the House would take Trump? Out of anyone they could name? I think they'd take Ryan.

  
I think the GOP would erupt into open combat (yes, literally) if the House of Reps elected someone besides Trump. It would be political suicide for the individual politicians and for the GOP if Ryan or someone else got elected. You cannot completely ignore the popular will of your base. 

 


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