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Posted: Feb 26, 2016 - 7:08am

Ok, this is starting to get weird{#Eek}

 

http://dailycaller.com/2016/02/24/political-science-professor-odds-of-president-trump-range-between-97-and-99/


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Posted: Feb 25, 2016 - 2:46pm

I can't remember which thread Melissa Click was mentioned in the context of political correctness gone mad but anyway she's just been fired. http://money.cnn.com/2016/02/25/media/melissa-click-fired-university-of-missouri/index.html?sr=twCNN022516melissa-click-fired-university-of-missouri0934PMStoryPhoto&linkId=21658679
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Posted: Feb 25, 2016 - 10:02am

BBC sums up his positions to date.  If he threw out the Mexican and Muslim parts, he might be electable (and stopped talking at a 5th grade level, including calling people dopes)

Donald Trump: 22 things the Republican believes

Donald Trump is the frontrunner in the Republican race to be the presidential nominee for next year's election. What are his policies and beliefs?

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-34903577


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Posted: Feb 25, 2016 - 9:33am

 

Nearly 20 percent of Mr. Trump’s voters disagreed with Abraham Lincoln’s Emancipation Proclamation, which freed slaves in the Southern states during the Civil War. Only 5 percent of Mr. Rubio’s voters share this view.

 

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/25/upshot/measuring-donald-trumps-supporters-for-intolerance.html?_r=0

 

To be fair, it is doubtful that most of the respondents know what the Emancipation Proclamation is and second point is it was South Carolina.  Hey I am from there so I can say that!{#Lol}


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Posted: Feb 25, 2016 - 5:24am

How America Made Donald Trump Unstoppable
He's no ordinary con man. He's way above average — and the American political system is his easiest mark ever
Matt Taibbi
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Posted: Feb 25, 2016 - 1:34am

The Chinese are now getting worried about Trump's plans to punish their currency manipulation and begin to threaten warn the US. 

China Warns U.S. After Trump Wins Nevada Caucus


Also pundit Bill Still predicts a last ditch attempt by CBS to create a Trump scandal on Monday night: https://youtu.be/7O9A8ky3qOY

CBS is said to be about to pull out the last thing in the anti-Trump arsenal – that Trump used Mafia contractors to build his buildings. Yawn. It’s New York. There are almost no alternatives in some segments of the construction industry.
Look for CBS to run with this hit piece on their flagship newsmagazine “60 Minutes “on Sunday in a last-ditch, desperate attempt to stop what will be a Trump runaway in Tuesday’s SEC primary states. Trump will only have one full day to respond – next Monday. Can he do it? Will Trump supporters care?

And on congressional supporters coming 'out of the closet'.

This morning, Trump received his first two Congressional endorsements; Rep. Duncan Hunter, a Republican from California, and Rep. Chris Collins, a Republican from New York.
Hunter told Politico:
"We don't need a policy wonk as president. We need a leader as president."
Hunter also said:
“I think you have more Trump supporters in Congress. They just have to come out of the closet." 
That just goes to show you how messed up the current situation is that even U.S. Congressmen are scared to admit that they support Donald Trump because they might be branded as racists or fascists.
New Yorker, Rep. Chris Collins’ endorsement starts to validate Trump’s recent assertions that he is the only Republican that can win New York in the general election – a feat unmatched for many decades.
 

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Posted: Feb 24, 2016 - 10:56pm

 kurtster wrote:
I'll check in after March 16 and see where we are.  Or sooner if Hillary gets indicted ...

 
I'm loving a political discussion that's about the politics and not the posters. Kudos.

{#Cheers} 
kurtster

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Posted: Feb 24, 2016 - 10:44pm

 Steely_D wrote:

Ask not for whom the Bell Curve tolls.

I have no disagreement at all that Trump is becoming a leader. But of what, and to where? Those are the significant questions.
Moreover the primary blame lies with the media for giving him airtime. He has never held office, never had real success, and has espoused no real plan for our nation. They should treat him like a fringe candidate and ignore him, but the story is so entertaining that they can't. But it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy: the TV says "lookit, EVERYone's voting for him!" and people wonder, "if not Hillary, whom can I vote for? Well, the TV is telling me that Trump is in the lead. I guess there's a reason..."

I read his tweets, and the blind angry support from others, mostly based on empty promises and threats - and it's so totally reminiscent of Hitler that it's a bit frightening. People come to power, decide to eliminate the ones that are causing all the problem, and gather the bullies as muscle.

Seriously, because I know we all have different ideas about where the nation should go. I think this is way past funny or interesting, and into the realm of dangerous. It took a while to end the Third Reich, but Americans should prevent it from taking hold in the States.
 
I'll hit the bolded first and try and get to the rest in some way.

Yes, he has never held office.  That disqualifies him before he gets started ?  He has actually elaborated a very decent tax plan that has passed muster by many credible reviewers.  His plan on the borders and immigration is much more than just building a wall.  His grasp of international trade issues and monetary policy and job creation far surpass all of the candidates on both sides.  I'll give you he is so far vague on an alternative to our health care mess of which you and I have a better understanding of than most just because of our professional involvement in healthcare.  He will have to deliver something coherent on that front sooner or later.  On the success part, I'll go with Forbes over Mother Jones, which cites Forbes.  Forbes has him worth $4.5 bil currently.  As of around 1990, they had him off the 400 list and basically broke.  $4.5 bil from nothing in 25 years is pretty good any way you look at it.

We are down to 5 viable candidates.  All 5 have their share of blindly loyal and uninformed supporters.  Of the 5, who are independent of donors and the establishment ?  There are only 2.  I have yet to find any nefarious secret backers for Trump or Sanders although Sanders is becoming the sweetheart of Hollywood.  Who are the real donors ?  The oligarchs, right ?  They don't want Trump.  That is an endorsement of Trump for me.

What's the old political axiom ... if everyone is mad at you, then you must be doing something right ?  Everyone but Trump's supporters hate Trump, on both sides of the aisle.  The media hates Trump.  The US Chamber of Commerce hates Trump because of his position on the borders and The TPP.  If you support Sanctuary Cities and all that comes with that, then I would understand your's or anyone's opposition to Trump.  I disagree with that, but at least I understand it.

Do you really believe that he is the coming of the Fourth Reich ?  For what purpose ?  He's too flipping old to get something of that magnitude going again.  He is not a neocon.  A pompous asshole yes, but not a neocon.  I think the call for Social Justice is the real path to the Fourth Reich, via class warfare.  Who is Trump's scapegoat ?  The easy answer is Muslims and illegals, but if you take a close look, that is not true.  He is after an incompetent government full of political patronage hacks that enables all the bad actors.  

Have we reached the point where we believe that it is impossible to believe that anyone might actually just want to fix what is broken, just for the good of doing it, because they can ?  Or that things are too effed up for anyone to fix things ?  If that is the case, then give up and vote for Hillary.

I actually believe that Trump wants to do a good job and be remembered for doing so by having his name plastered on schools, libraries and hospitals as his legacy.

I've got nothing else.  Nor anything to add.  Its all out there.

I'll check in after March 16 and see where we are.  Or sooner if Hillary gets indicted ...



 


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Posted: Feb 24, 2016 - 8:12pm

"Former Republican nominee Mitt Romney called Wednesday on the 2016 GOP hopefuls to release their tax returns, saying he suspects there's a "bombshell" in frontrunner Donald Trump's — a comment that prompted Trump to call Romney a "fool.""

—-

Real tweet from the GOP front-runner

Mitt Romney,who totally blew an election that should have been won and whose tax returns made him look like a fool, is now playing tough guy

 


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Posted: Feb 24, 2016 - 8:08pm

 kurtster wrote:

Ah, my brother of the Bell Curve !  (seriously, a compliment) the dman is back !

Maybe, but I think that Trump's statement was inclusive, not pandering.  He put the well educated on even footing with the less or "poorly" educated.  He didn't say I'm smarter than you and I know what's best for you, like all the other elites usually do, as in the concept of the nanny state.  He said, I love you !  One's level of education does not determine how smart you are or aren't.  Trump get's that.  He's building a broad based coalition that has room for everyone, regardless of what collar you wear, or education you have.  He's going for the whole curve, no one is excluded, all are equal.  That is what a real leader does.

This election is all about who can lead, and lead us away from K Street and Wall Street.  That is what will win.

 
Ask not for whom the Bell Curve tolls.

I have no disagreement at all that Trump is becoming a leader. But of what, and to where? Those are the significant questions.
Moreover the primary blame lies with the media for giving him airtime. He has never held office, never had real success, and has espoused no real plan for our nation. They should treat him like a fringe candidate and ignore him, but the story is so entertaining that they can't. But it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy: the TV says "lookit, EVERYone's voting for him!" and people wonder, "if not Hillary, whom can I vote for? Well, the TV is telling me that Trump is in the lead. I guess there's a reason..."

I read his tweets, and the blind angry support from others, mostly based on empty promises and threats - and it's so totally reminiscent of Hitler that it's a bit frightening. People come to power, decide to eliminate the ones that are causing all the problem, and gather the bullies as muscle.

Seriously, because I know we all have different ideas about where the nation should go. I think this is way past funny or interesting, and into the realm of dangerous. It took a while to end the Third Reich, but Americans should prevent it from taking hold in the States.



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Posted: Feb 24, 2016 - 8:03pm

 haresfur wrote:
I reckon people have been voting for change for so long now that voting for a little continuity would be a nice change. 
 
A nice saying, but really not applicable. In some ways our nation is a hell of a lot more stable than it was seven years ago.
(insert graphs and charts here> 
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Posted: Feb 24, 2016 - 7:05pm

 Steely_D wrote:

Well that's some pretty direct pandering. Of course, how're they gonna be offended? They'll just be complimented.

Remember the nation has a pretty big bottom of the Bell Curve. After two terms of an educated, even-tempered minority President - it's time for the other folks to run the nation.

 
Hit single: Fat Bottom Bell Curves

I reckon people have been voting for change for so long now that voting for a little continuity would be a nice change. 
kurtster

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Posted: Feb 24, 2016 - 6:36pm

 Steely_D wrote:

Well that's some pretty direct pandering. Of course, how're they gonna be offended? They'll just be complimented.

Remember the nation has a pretty big bottom of the Bell Curve. After two terms of an educated, even-tempered minority President - it's time for the other folks to run the nation.

 
Ah, my brother of the Bell Curve !  (seriously, a compliment) the dman is back !

Maybe, but I think that Trump's statement was inclusive, not pandering.  He put the well educated on even footing with the less or "poorly" educated.  He didn't say I'm smarter than you and I know what's best for you, like all the other elites usually do, as in the concept of the nanny state.  He said, I love you !  One's level of education does not determine how smart you are or aren't.  Trump get's that.  He's building a broad based coalition that has room for everyone, regardless of what collar you wear, or education you have.  He's going for the whole curve, no one is excluded, all are equal.  That is what a real leader does.

This election is all about who can lead, and lead us away from K Street and Wall Street.  That is what will win.
kurtster

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Posted: Feb 24, 2016 - 5:20pm

 JrzyTmata wrote:

you asked for a link. I gave it to you. I wasn't being dishonest.

 

Wasn't saying you were in any way, shape or form.  That was directed to those who previously posted the bogus quote.

You got me started so I could find the entire actual quote.  Searching the bogus quote got me everywhere but to the truth.

Thank you.

Sorry for any misunderstanding on my part.


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Posted: Feb 24, 2016 - 12:53pm

 kurtster wrote:

Yeah, but the whole quote says something much different ...

 

Once again, Donald Trump has made another statement that requires interpretation – but only for those who aren’t already supporters.

This time it’s clarification on his statement on celebrating the ‘poorly educated’ for his victory in Nevada’s Republican caucuses on Tuesday.

“We won with highly educated, we won with poorly educated! I love the poorly educated,” he said from his podium, flanked by two of his sons, Donald, Jr, and Eric Tump.

 
Let's keep it honest here, shall we ?

I guess the dragon works for Cruz .... 

 
you asked for a link. I gave it to you. I wasn't being dishonest.


kurtster

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Posted: Feb 24, 2016 - 12:47pm

 JrzyTmata wrote:

the quote is "I love the poorly educated"
but it's not that hard to find.

 
Yeah, but the whole quote says something much different ...

 

Once again, Donald Trump has made another statement that requires interpretation – but only for those who aren’t already supporters.

This time it’s clarification on his statement on celebrating the ‘poorly educated’ for his victory in Nevada’s Republican caucuses on Tuesday.

“We won with highly educated, we won with poorly educated! I love the poorly educated,” he said from his podium, flanked by two of his sons, Donald, Jr, and Eric Tump.

 
Let's keep it honest here, shall we ?

I guess the dragon works for Cruz .... 

 





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Posted: Feb 24, 2016 - 12:44pm

has anyone coined the terms trumpophobic or winophobic?

are trumpophobia and winophobia mental illnesses yet?
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Posted: Feb 24, 2016 - 12:34pm

 R_P wrote:

When I watched the Buckley Jr. vs. Vidal documentary the other day I noticed people were already saying that in the late 60s.

 
I imagine so, especially in the late 1960s, but it seemed like it went away for a while...or at least wasn't as widely touted until after '08.
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Posted: Feb 24, 2016 - 12:30pm

 kurtster wrote:
 Red_Dragon wrote:
"I love the uneducated." ~ Trump


I have yet to find that exact quote by Trump any where.

Link please.

 
the quote is "I love the poorly educated"
but it's not that hard to find.


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Posted: Feb 24, 2016 - 12:25pm

 Red_Dragon wrote:
"I love the uneducated." ~ Trump


I have yet to find that exact quote by Trump any where.

Link please.
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