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Posted: May 18, 2017 - 12:07pm

 Skydog wrote:
Trump isn't smart enough to protect his own ass and we are suppose to trust him with the country? 
Politics aside, I'll admit that it's a great idea to "shake up Washington"  and pay more attention to the our own citizens but Trump ain't the guy,
Fred Trump must have really did a number on his son because he is mentally and emotionally unstable.
But speakers more eloquent than me made this case over and over before the election and they voted for him anyway.
Just dump Trump in a New Jersey river and let's start fighting with President Pence over his Christian version of Sharia Law.
 

 
Trump is "White Trash" in a rich mans suit.
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Posted: May 18, 2017 - 11:09am

Trump isn't smart enough to protect his own ass and we are suppose to trust him with the country? 
Politics aside, I'll admit that it's a great idea to "shake up Washington"  and pay more attention to the our own citizens but Trump ain't the guy,
Fred Trump must have really did a number on his son because he is mentally and emotionally unstable.
But speakers more eloquent than me made this case over and over before the election and they voted for him anyway.
Just dump Trump in a New Jersey river and let's start fighting with President Pence over his Christian version of Sharia Law.
 
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Posted: May 18, 2017 - 10:58am

 kurtster wrote:

I have a bigger picture than you do.  No borders, no country.  You want rights and principles to be paramount.  So do I.  I just believe that it cannot happen with open borders.  You see it the other way.  Only one person running believed that we need to have secure borders, Trump.

I cannot comprehend this country having a future where principles and rights matter without sovereign borders.  Where we control who comes and goes and why.

 
OK, we do have an issue with immigration, but what i dont get is why Trumpeters (ha, just made that up) put this at the top of agenda...seems like there is a long list of other issues ahead of that, like our mounting debt (and yes, the democrats are probably more blind to the debt issue). 
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Posted: May 18, 2017 - 10:50am

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Exactly.  I knew from the beginning he was and is an asshole.  

 

 
Vot this vorlt neets is a BICKER ASSHOL!
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Posted: May 18, 2017 - 10:23am

 aflanigan wrote:

Yes, your priorities are indeed based on partisanship. Thanks, captain obvious.

My priorities are based on the big picture: Constitutional principles, and the overall health of our country, and the well-being of the people who call it home. 

 
I have a bigger picture than you do.  No borders, no country.  You want rights and principles to be paramount.  So do I.  I just believe that it cannot happen with open borders.  You see it the other way.  Only one person running believed that we need to have secure borders, Trump.

I cannot comprehend this country having a future where principles and rights matter without sovereign borders.  Where we control who comes and goes and why.


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Posted: May 18, 2017 - 10:21am

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Huh? He was "predicted to be a failure at best and a disaster at worst". Which pundits predicted this? So in other words he's doing gangbusters in your book because he's a spectacular failure? 
 
Now that is genius on your part. You are OK with Trump being a failure because you expected him to be no less? How utterly Trumpian of you to completely marginalize anything he does so that - anything he does - is acceptable. I thought you set the bar low before... I was dead wrong.
 
I'm at a loss for words... if I were you I would retire from the forum with that last post... that was a walk-off if ever there was one.


 

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Posted: May 18, 2017 - 10:17am

 VV wrote:

Huh? He was "predicted to be a failure at best and a disaster at worst". Which pundits predicted this? So in other words he's doing gangbusters in your book because he's a spectacular failure? 
 
Now that is genius on your part. You are OK with Trump being a failure because you expected him to be no less? How utterly Trumpian of you to completely marginalize anything he does so that - anything he does - is acceptable. I thought you set the bar low before... I was dead wrong.
 
I'm at a loss for words... if I were you I would retire from the forum with that last post... that was a walk-off if ever there was one.


 
No, I did not expect him to be a disaster or a failure at all.  Just summing up the position of all of his detractors and turning it around on them.

He's meeting my expectations so far, considering the hostile environment.  I got a SCOTUS justice I wanted already.  Border crossings are at a record low.  He's tackling the Sanctuary City problem.  I am pretty confident his executive orders regarding his moratorium of entries from specific countries will be upheld in the SCOTUS.

I'm not taking the Russia bait.  This is just bs to explain Hillary's defeat.  If anything, I want cooperation with the Russians in the terror front.  I already mentioned the foreign policy front where I believe he is doing a great job.

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Posted: May 18, 2017 - 9:51am

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Exactly.  I knew from the beginning he was and is an asshole.  Never claimed otherwise, either.  I wasn't looking to vote for the nicest person running.  That's never been a top consideration for me.  He just ticked more of my boxes.  Especially my foreign policy box.  And he has delivered so far.  He's trying to set up some kind of Arab state NATO thing.  Take the monkey off of our back and put it where it belongs.  

Otherwise with expectations so low, how can he surprise anyone at this point ?  He was predicted to be a failure at best and a disaster at worst.  With that in mind, you'd think that there would be a lot of helping hands being offered for the good of the country to help him out.  Instead, the opposite is happening.

I have no illusions on that because if Trump were to be a successful POTUS, he would implement so many things that his detractors are opposed to that it is their best interest to take him down in flames and do what ever it takes and are.  And the establishment repubs are just as dedicated to that end as are the dems.  

The die is cast.  If nothing else Trump is forcing everyone to put their cards on the table whether they know it or not.  

Now we have a special prosecutor.   Hopefully that sucks all the oxygen out of the room and quiets things down so we can get back to the business of running this country.  Ya, right ...
 
Huh? He was "predicted to be a failure at best and a disaster at worst". Which pundits predicted this? So in other words he's doing gangbusters in your book because he's a spectacular failure? 
 
Now that is genius on your part. You are OK with Trump being a failure because you expected him to be no less? How utterly Trumpian of you to completely marginalize anything he does so that - anything he does - is acceptable. I thought you set the bar low before... I was dead wrong.
 
I'm at a loss for words... if I were you I would retire from the forum with that last post... that was a walk-off if ever there was one.

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Posted: May 18, 2017 - 9:43am

 kurtster wrote:

Here's what it all boils down to ...

your worst nightmare is Trump as POTUS,

mine was another Clinton.

I had to deal with a nightmare for the past 8 years,

now its your turn to stay up all night and worry.

QED ...

 
Yes, your priorities are indeed based on partisanship. Thanks, captain obvious.

My priorities are based on the big picture: Constitutional principles, and the overall health of our country, and the well-being of the people who call it home. 
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Posted: May 18, 2017 - 9:32am

 kurtster wrote:

Here's what it all boils down to ...

your worst nightmare is Trump as POTUS,

mine was another Clinton.

I had to deal with a nightmare for the past 8 years,

now its your turn to stay up all night and worry.

QED ...

 
This is a narrative based on party instead of country.

And, as I've said before, this is the best the GOP could do? I would think a worst nightmare would be the Republican ethos represented by a latter day PT Barnum.
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Posted: May 18, 2017 - 8:47am

 aflanigan wrote:

This alternative narrative brought to you by kurtster is proudly sponsored in part by the nations of Russia and of Turkey.

 
Here's what it all boils down to ...

your worst nightmare is Trump as POTUS,

mine was another Clinton.

I had to deal with a nightmare for the past 8 years,

now its your turn to stay up all night and worry.

QED ...
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Posted: May 18, 2017 - 8:32am

 kurtster wrote:
To whom it may concern ...

Just this past hour, I was made aware of the facts that lie in two US Codes that would apply directly to former FBI Director Comey that:  

He is required by law to report any attempts of or actual obstruction of justice immediately to the DOJ and that failure to do so would result in the loss of his law license as well as jail time.

The event that everyone is foaming and frothing over, the alleged Comey memo stating just that, would now get Comey in as much or more trouble than Trump if true.  He failed to report obstruction of justice and therefore becomes complicit in same.

Now if in fact Comey wrote these kinds of memos on a regular basis, then we should also see what he wrote about regarding interactions with Obama.  

If indeed Comey did find there to be obstruction of justice regarding Trump, it is still officially unreported 3 months after the event took place.

Until I see the memo, I must say that all of those who think this is the smoking gun you've been drooling over to end your nightmare, the Trump presidency, you are being played, big time.  Or Trump is the one with the least amount of problems as this stuff moves forward.

There is indeed corruption going on somewhere, but your attentions are deliberately being diverted from where it is to be found.

Sleep well.  
 
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Posted: May 18, 2017 - 8:29am

 aflanigan wrote:

You've just done a wonderful job of providing the proof that you're desperately trying to deflect attention from Cheeto Jeesus above.

QED 

 
See below ... 
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Posted: May 18, 2017 - 8:28am

 sirdroseph wrote:
 ScottN wrote:

I don't agree that who we have as POTUS is "almost irrelevant". I  believe that the national (and international) problem and stress caused by the Trump presidency is real and acute. The concern, and hand-wringing, over the Trump soap opera is palpable.  The longer term issue of how we create a process to where 'decent person can get elected' is for another day.  Perhaps that issue can be addressed in how the nation deals with the Trump disaster. Perhaps not.

 

Trump is an asshole, I get it was never disillusioned to think otherwise. If the special investigator actually finds something that is an impeachable offense so be it, but quite frankly I see good and bad from his presidency particularly in foreign policy and is nowhere the disaster the sky is falling hype is making it out to be anymore than the Obama detractors kept proclaiming his administration was. Perhaps it is because I have no dog in this race other than my disdain for our political system, but I like seeing the institution squirm with the non partisan unpredictable volatility that Trump brings. If you are in the Middle East or Northern Africa you would take umbrage to your focused and precised anger towards Trump when you know that no matter who the President is you and your family will continue to be bombed.

 
Exactly.  I knew from the beginning he was and is an asshole.  Never claimed otherwise, either.  I wasn't looking to vote for the nicest person running.  That's never been a top consideration for me.  He just ticked more of my boxes.  Especially my foreign policy box.  And he has delivered so far.  He's trying to set up some kind of Arab state NATO thing.  Take the monkey off of our back and put it where it belongs.  

Otherwise with expectations so low, how can he surprise anyone at this point ?  He was predicted to be a failure at best and a disaster at worst.  With that in mind, you'd think that there would be a lot of helping hands being offered for the good of the country to help him out.  Instead, the opposite is happening.

I have no illusions on that because if Trump were to be a successful POTUS, he would implement so many things that his detractors are opposed to that it is their best interest to take him down in flames and do what ever it takes and are.  And the establishment repubs are just as dedicated to that end as are the dems.  

The die is cast.  If nothing else Trump is forcing everyone to put their cards on the table whether they know it or not.  

Now we have a special prosecutor.   Hopefully that sucks all the oxygen out of the room and quiets things down so we can get back to the business of running this country.  Ya, right ...

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Posted: May 18, 2017 - 7:45am

 kurtster wrote:

I'm not running away from Trump.  You see that where ?  

And since you bring up Obama in the same breath, how about all of the defense of Obama's initial grappling with the problems at hand by saying over and over again for at least two years that, it takes a long time to turn an ocean liner around, give him time ...   that defending the smartest man to ever be POTUS, all you defenders kept saying as well.  Why golly gee whillickers, even with a Nobel Peace Price in his pocket, he still needed time to get going.

Incompetence and corruption ?  On the incompetence, see above about turning around ocean liners and then there is that shovel ready thing of Obama's.  Solyndra ...  Can't get much more incompetent than that.  $1 Trillion worth of incompetence.  This from candidate Obama who self proclaimed that he was the "best choice to lead on the economy".  The Red Line in Syria, Daesh is the JV team (and the last two were in his second term) ...   On the corruption, show me the proof, then I'll address it.  So far there is no proof of anything.  Just stories based on anonymous sources that have yet to be backed up with any kind of evidence other than hearsay.

But what ever the case, you have all the proof you need, based only upon bylines and mastheads.  And you act on that unverified proof and base all your points on it.

Like I said, show me the proof and then we'll have something to talk about ...

 
You've just done a wonderful job of providing the proof that you're desperately trying to deflect attention from Cheeto Jeesus above.

QED 
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Posted: May 18, 2017 - 4:06am

 ScottN wrote:

I don't agree that who we have as POTUS is "almost irrelevant". I  believe that the national (and international) problem and stress caused by the Trump presidency is real and acute. The concern, and hand-wringing, over the Trump soap opera is palpable.  The longer term issue of how we create a process to where 'decent person can get elected' is for another day.  Perhaps that issue can be addressed in how the nation deals with the Trump disaster. Perhaps not.

 





Trump is an asshole, I get it was never disillusioned to think otherwise. If the special investigator actually finds something that is an impeachable offense so be it, but quite frankly I see good and bad from his presidency particularly in foreign policy and is nowhere the disaster the sky is falling hype is making it out to be anymore than the Obama detractors kept proclaiming his administration was. Perhaps it is because I have no dog in this race other than my disdain for our political system, but I like seeing the institution squirm with the non partisan unpredictable volatility that Trump brings. If you are in the Middle East or Northern Africa you would take umbrage to your focused and precised anger towards Trump when you know that no matter who the President is you and your family will continue to be bombed.


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Posted: May 18, 2017 - 3:05am

 sirdroseph wrote:

I completely disagree, who is POTUS is almost irrelevant, miami has touched on something very important.  We need to get the process fixed to where it is possible for a decent person to get elected. Having said that, point below is taken, Americans are either ignorant or misguided at best and we probably would continue to elect the best con artist anyway even if the system were not rigged and we had a true choice.
 
I don't agree that who we have as POTUS is "almost irrelevant". I  believe that the national (and international) problem and stress caused by the Trump presidency is real and acute. The concern, and hand-wringing, over the Trump soap opera is palpable.  The longer term issue of how we create a process to where 'decent person can get elected' is for another day.  Perhaps that issue can be addressed in how the nation deals with the Trump disaster. Perhaps not.


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Posted: May 18, 2017 - 2:14am

 ScottN wrote:

You have the current debate on a far higher philosophical plane than is deserved, imo.

Simply focus on greed, and the pathologically narcissistic personality who currently serves as POTUS.

 
I completely disagree, who is POTUS is almost irrelevant, miami has touched on something very important.  We need to get the process fixed to where it is possible for a decent person to get elected. Having said that, point below is taken, Americans are either ignorant or misguided at best and we probably would continue to elect the best con artist anyway even if the system were not rigged and we had a true choice.


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Posted: May 17, 2017 - 7:14pm

 miamizsun wrote:

good luck

there will never be a president better than you

i'm serious

 

 miamizsun wrote:

i'm saying that i seriously doubt you'd sell your soul to the extent that presidents have (or have to)

you're on the hook with the military industrial complex, hoards of special interests and the expenses of the masses and worst of all, to banks/creditors 

....

What if every man and woman aspiring to the presidency has to sell his/her soul to varying degrees?  Politics is the art of compromise. It's also the art of appealing to conflicting groups in self-contradictory ways; I think you have to be a bit schizoid and adept at lying to yourself to pull that off well. Every president has had (and will have) to play the game as it exists at the time. Some great presidents have been able to change the rules of that game for the better but that's a rare feat. Few have exited politics without bitterness, regrets and scars. 

The American political system requires compromise and concessions to the powerful and rich. Instead of railing at men and women at the top who've tossed away their principles, shouldn't we be forcing a change of rules from the ground up? Ultimately, our politics will improve if the average American is more active and informed—but that's a lot to ask for. Trump got a lot of generally non-voting average Americans to vote for him, but they were poorly informed. We're now paying the price for their ignorance and gullibility. 


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Posted: May 17, 2017 - 4:58pm

he always did love the spotlight
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