kurtster wrote: 
Stepping back, it makes total sense that most of America thinks Trump is a horrible President. If you had no ideology to support, no embarrassment over what happens next, it's impossible to support this President.

• Destroying our credibility around the world with his selfish behavior and speeches that lack nuance or savvy
• Not fulfilling his campaign promises (big beautiful wall paid for by Mexico, repeal & replace the ACA, etc) to his supporters
• No significant legislation movement despite being in control of the White House, the Congress, and even the Supreme Court
• Multiple, repeated well documented episodes of him lying to the American public
• Wasting the tax dollars of Americans with his Florida trips and more
• Flagrant hypocrisy regarding his criticisms of Obama, especially with the golf thing
• Insulting and alienating large segments of American culture (Hispanic, Muslim, Transgender, etc)
• Refusing to simply cooperate with the question of Russian involvement in his campaign
• Unequivocal and unrepentant nepotism, using "they're family; be nice" as Americans wonder if his son-in-law is the best person for all those jobs

How is it possible that he still has support? What group of people would still find his behavior Presidential?

Trump "haters" don't all think alike, that's for sure. But to not be extraordinarily disappointed in this guy - even if you voted for him - just doesn't make sense. Don't look for folks to be understanding if you're still saying that he is - or will be - good. His promises are empty. He's already six months in and this is what we've seen.

 oldviolin wrote: 
We have met the enemy. It is us.

 miamizsun wrote: 
It was a set up for sure. Could have been since Nixon but in spite of the associated hyper-hyperbole I am sure since the second term of Bill Clinton. The onset of technology and so called social media and virtual reality culture...It was/is a set up. I could clearly see the likes of a Donald Trump becoming President by the merits alone. Throw in a few hot political footballs like (pick one) with a dash of slick product placement and you have the makings of the glass darkly, us ourselves peering into ourselves as a nation; all those brave men and women buried in the ground for the love of such; and for what? The Twitterverse, etc? Makes me want to wretch or laugh out loud or both at the same time. LIVE YOUR ALREADY SHORT LIVES PEOPLE! FUCK A BUNCH OF PARTISAN IDEOLOGY! LEARN FROM THE PAST AND LIVE IN THE FUTURE!...or die for nothing...

JMHO

you guys are brutal

the system is working like it should no?

higher level: hold up two shitty choices and have the irrationally primed partisan masses act as a political immune system to take turd (a) or turd (b) out

politics is a nasty business (force fraud coercion etc.)

lower level: it should be noted that we almost had two "outsiders" (sanders/trump in the race)

it is very obvious both party insiders hated them (it's just that the dems were successful at marginalizing bernie)

trump just got lucky and overcame the gop guard (who seemed to be in denial or asleep at the wheel until his momentum steamrolled them)

sanders probably would have had a battle against the "deep state" entrenched powers as well

it's good that we're getting a glimpse behind the potus curtain

the bottom line: don't act rationally, let someone else tell you what to think and how to vote

because this election is always the most important and we always must choose the "lesser" of the two evils

we'll do better next time

any predictions on the next boogeyman?

 VV wrote: 
Its just the first thing hurled at Trump and his supporters.  Not that you did, but its all you see and hear in the media.  Its all that was ever said about those who had problems with Obama as well, regardless of why.  So yeah, after being accused of it for nearly 10 years, its pretty much the first response or thought anymore.

Is what it is, right ?

 kurtster wrote: 
Simply offered my opinion. Most everything posted here is offered with a good helping of it. I think I'm free to express it but your response to it seemed to prove my point. Interesting that your response also quickly devolved into mentioning racism & violence. Must be something you are hung up on.

i question anyone who simply can't see at this point in time that Trump is unintelligent on almost every aspect of how government operates, American history, world history, economics, diplomacy.... You name it. And he apparently has no interest or capacity to learn. This coupled with  all of the personal traits that I mentioned in my previous post and the bottom line is you have someone grossly fit for the job. In fact he would be grossly unfit for the vast majority of occupations in the US.

So yes, when I see Trump supporters just turning a blind eye to this... I do question their common sense and credibility.
 
 

 kurtster wrote: 
You're right, of course. His broad brush doesn't take into account the fact that "Trump voters" and "common sense" are rarely found in the same room.

 VV wrote: 
That's a pretty broad brush to be using on 40 million or so people.  That's about one third of all the people who actually vote.  

That's an awful lot of minds to see into all at once and claim to know how they all think.  

But Trump haters all think alike too, right ?  All 290 million of you.   Doesn't matter R or D or I, you all think the same.  You all hate him and think that all of us who have not turned our backs on Trump are mindless, racist scum for still giving him the time of day.  

So here we are.  What's next ?  You gonna start shooting at us all to help save us from ourselves ?  Or just to cull the herd ?

 R_P wrote: 
How can his supporters keep turning a blind eye to this and his other countless shortcomings? I wouldn't trust him to cut my grass.

Why Is Donald Trump Still So Horribly Witless about the World?

Max Boot, a lifelong conservative who advised three Republican Presidential candidates on foreign policy, keeps a folder labelled “Trump Stupidity File” on his computer. It’s next to his “Trump Lies” file. “Not sure which is larger at this point,” he told me this week. “It’s neck-and-neck.”

Six months into the Trump era, foreign-policy officials from eight past Administrations told me they are aghast that the President is still so witless about the world. “He seems as clueless today as he was on January 20th,” Boot, who is now a senior fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations, said. Trump’s painful public gaffes, they warn, indicate that he’s not reading, retaining, or listening to his Presidential briefings. And the newbie excuse no longer flies.

“Trump has an appalling ignorance of the current world, of history, of previous American engagement, of what former Presidents thought and did,” Geoffrey Kemp, who worked at the Pentagon during the Ford Administration and at the National Security Council during the Reagan Administration, reflected. “He has an almost studious rejection of the type of in-depth knowledge that virtually all of his predecessors eventually gained or had views on.”

Criticism of Donald Trump among Democrats who served in senior national-security positions is predictable and rife. But Republicans—who are historically ambitious on foreign policy—are particularly pained by the President’s missteps and misstatements. So are former senior intelligence officials who have avoided publicly criticizing Presidents until now. (...)

 Dragonfly_Launch wrote: 

I'll bet that at least one of those tweets is from Putin, and his regret is quite genuine. 


Laughin' on the outside, cryin' on the inside. 

 ScottN wrote: 
I know, but still...

 Red_Dragon wrote: 
Makes a good headline but is not sensational, imo.  Grand jury is a working tool for an investigation that now has 16 prosecutors.

Buckle up, kids; Mueller has impaneled a grand jury.

 ScottFromWyoming wrote: 
Bogus as in someone who is toward the left and did not vote for Trump would send out a fake regret tweet? That is some subtle subversive shit. 

 ScottFromWyoming wrote: 

 VV wrote: 
Trump Regrets on Twitter

Some of them are bogus, sure, most of them are sincere... and then there's the one from Flat Earth Dave.

 VV wrote: 
I agree.  We are not perfect, not even me.....lol  There is no shame in admitting you have been duped and to advocating and joining the movement toward change!

 steeler wrote: 
I would agree as well but even those people see that being repeatedly forced to acknowledge those quirks begins to shed an uncomfortable light on their own values and their common sense. The result is that they feel a need to staunchly defend Trump when in reality they aren't so much defending Trump as they are defending themselves.

I was personally scammed not too long ago and bought what I thought were legit concert tickets. In hindsight there were a couple of warning signs... that if I had been more attentive... might have alerted me to a problem. I was obviously embarrassed by this and hate to admit I got taken. My wife has taken great glee in needling me about it since. I would find more credibility in hearing previous Trump supporters admit that they got "scammed" into believing they were buying into something that has clearly turned out to be false.