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Posted: Jan 28, 2016 - 9:53am

Veterans group won't take Trump fundraiser donations


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Posted: Jan 27, 2016 - 3:52pm

Trump's Fox News debate boycott "the most brilliant move of the campaign"




Wow this puts it all very nicely and echos many of the points mentioned here.


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Posted: Jan 27, 2016 - 1:30pm

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:

All it means, as far as Adams is saying, is that Trump is a better negotiator than your garden variety politician, and certainly better than most news outlets. Adams has never said anything pro or con about what Trump says or stands for. Trump understands that there is only one way to lose a debate: participate. He could win the debate, but might also lose. For any of the other candidates to drop out now is just capitulation that Trump's the only one that matters but the possibility of losing the debate is still there so there is no upside to staying in at this point. Any other candidate that dropped out before Trump did would not be able to spin their exit to make it look like they were capable of winning, so they all had to stay in. And in the end the whole debacle has kept Trump in the news cycle and all other candidates paying paying paying to get any airtime at all.
 
If you're a fan of Trump that's great, but if you're simply a fan of policy wonks who have good ideas and skills but aren't showmen like Trump, it's bad. If Trump wins, all we'll get from here on out are people who play the game better than others. Which is basically how it is, anyway, but Trump's rewriting all the rules. 

 
Pretty much spot on except that I would offer that Trump is playing by the rules, same as everyone else, just better.  

I just read Adams now and he is right on top of this and I agree with him.  Trump is playing chess while everyone else is playing checkers ...

Moving on, its about picking someone to make the final decision or have the last word on whatever, so to speak, right ?  In the perfect world of the benevolent dictator school of thought, we can only hope that that person has not been compromised, bought or corrupted before they get that power.  Then they face their biggest obstacle in getting anything done, the corrupt, self perpetuating, monolithic unionized federal bureaucracy and the patronage system.   Full of deadwood, waste and willful malfeasance ( EPA anyone ?).  It is impossible to fire anyone, we are told over and over again.  Says who ?   FDR said that government workers should not be unionized because it is counter productive to the job at hand and I agree. 

 Someone who reaches power outside of the political patronage system, is not beholden to it.  If someone should be fired, then it stands a much better chance of happening.  Sure it gets tied up in court, but its a beginning.  All the idle government owned real estate sitting, untouched because its in someone's district, might get unloaded.  yada ...  But, finally, maybe it gets done, by someone who knows what they are doing.  

Someone has to pick up the kicked can.  I want the most qualified and unshackled person doing it and hope that they are doing it for the right and honest reasons.

ymmv ...  
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Posted: Jan 27, 2016 - 12:45pm

 kurtster wrote:

Is this what it means when no one owns you ?  You really do get to call your own shots ?  No one can make you show up ?

Heard former UN Amb Bolden last night offer up this pure speculation ... what if ... this was a maneuver (taking advantage of this opportunity) designed to give Trump more sway in the Fall when the final debates happen ?  

This is round 2 of Trump vs. Ailes and the Establishment ... , eh ?

 
Keeping it brief because I'm about to watch a film...

This is not about future maneuvers. There are several issues at play here.

Issue one is that debate moderators should be reasonably unbiased. Megyn Kelly is not.  There is a lot of footage of her slating Trump on her own shows. What is the point of having debates if the news the next day is all about a moderator feuding with Trump?

The press release from Fox was in Trump's words childish and insulting and is the main reason he walked. Trump is THE reason the previous Fox debate had the highest ratings in US cable history. They made a fortune from it but now think they can sell him a bad deal?  Nope.

Fox is owned by Rupert Murdoch who is an elite globalist that campaigns for open borders, as many of the scumbags do. This sets the agenda at Fox and explains why they will never give Trump a level playing field. 

Finally as already mentioned giving Fox the finger and staging his own event makes Trump a hero in the eyes of many Democrats who despise Fox. It is Trump's cross party support that will make him president.

In terms of what Scott Adams way saying read the whole thing here. It makes more sense taken in context. http://blog.dilbert.com/post/138125409321/trump-fox-news-and-megyn-kelly-explained-master




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Posted: Jan 27, 2016 - 12:39pm

 kurtster wrote:

Is this what it means when no one owns you ?  You really do get to call your own shots ?  No one can make you show up ?

Heard former UN Amb Bolden last night offer up this pure speculation ... what if ... this was a maneuver (taking advantage of this opportunity) designed to give Trump more sway in the Fall when the final debates happen ?  

This is round 2 of Trump vs. Ailes and the Establishment ... , eh ?

 
All it means, as far as Adams is saying, is that Trump is a better negotiator than your garden variety politician, and certainly better than most news outlets. Adams has never said anything pro or con about what Trump says or stands for. Trump understands that there is only one way to lose a debate: participate. He could win the debate, but might also lose. For any of the other candidates to drop out now is just capitulation that Trump's the only one that matters but the possibility of losing the debate is still there so there is no upside to staying in at this point. Any other candidate that dropped out before Trump did would not be able to spin their exit to make it look like they were capable of winning, so they all had to stay in. And in the end the whole debacle has kept Trump in the news cycle and all other candidates paying paying paying to get any airtime at all.
 
If you're a fan of Trump that's great, but if you're simply a fan of policy wonks who have good ideas and skills but aren't showmen like Trump, it's bad. If Trump wins, all we'll get from here on out are people who play the game better than others. Which is basically how it is, anyway, but Trump's rewriting all the rules. 
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Posted: Jan 27, 2016 - 12:15pm

 rotekz wrote:
ScottFromWyoming wrote:

Dilbert called this shot yesterday:
  • Or perhaps a FOX competitor will offer Trump a show of his own for two hours, at the same time, just to be dicks to FOX. Anything can happen, but all paths seem to favor Trump.
  • Now let’s say you are Donald Trump, the scariest Republican that any Democrat has seen in ages. What is the one best thing he can do to separate himself from the Republican machine and show that he can be a deal-maker for everyone?Answer: Punch FOX News in the mouth. Right in front of you.
 

  
Yeah, no pundit understands Trump better than Scott Adams. All his predictions for this campaign have been bang on.

 
Is this what it means when no one owns you ?  You really do get to call your own shots ?  No one can make you show up ?

Heard former UN Amb Bolden last night offer up this pure speculation ... what if ... this was a maneuver (taking advantage of this opportunity) designed to give Trump more sway in the Fall when the final debates happen ?  

This is round 2 of Trump vs. Ailes and the Establishment ... , eh ?


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Posted: Jan 27, 2016 - 12:05pm

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/01/fox-statement-taunting-trump-was-all-roger-ailes.html?mid=twitter-share-di

Panicking Fox insiders are now trying to pin the blame for the crisis on Roger Ailes. According to Ann Coulter's recent tweet Trump's alternate event will air on CNN.

Fox News Statement Taunting Trump Was ‘100 Percent’ Roger Ailes



As the war between Fox News and Donald Trump ratchets up, Roger Ailes is fighting off criticism from his senior executives over his handling of the crisis. According to one highly placed source, last night, Ailes sent out the now-famous statement mocking Trump as being scared to meet with the “Ayatollah” and “Putin” if he became president. “That was Roger 100 percent,” the source explained. “A lot of people on the second floor” — where top Fox executives work — “didn’t think it was a good idea.”


Fox executives are also troubled that Ailes’s principal adviser right now is his longtime personal lawyer and Fox & Friends contributor Peter Johnson Jr. “He wrote the statement with Peter,” the source explained. “Peter is running the war room,” another Ailes friend told me. Fox executives are worried that Ailes is relying on an attorney with scant communications experience as the network is reeling from the biggest PR crisis in recent memory. Historically, during a crisis like this Ailes would have huddled with his veteran communications guru Brian Lewis. But Ailes fired Lewis in 2013 over his concerns that Lewis had been a source for my 2014 Ailes biography. Since Lewis’s ouster, Johnson has taken on the role of media counselor.

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Posted: Jan 27, 2016 - 11:39am

Adams predicted (but did not prefer, though donated to) McCain and endorsed Romney (but apparently had no prediction).
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Posted: Jan 27, 2016 - 10:29am

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:

Dilbert called this shot yesterday:
  • Or perhaps a FOX competitor will offer Trump a show of his own for two hours, at the same time, just to be dicks to FOX. Anything can happen, but all paths seem to favor Trump.
  • Now let’s say you are Donald Trump, the scariest Republican that any Democrat has seen in ages. What is the one best thing he can do to separate himself from the Republican machine and show that he can be a deal-maker for everyone? Answer: Punch FOX News in the mouth. Right in front of you.
 

 
Yeah, no pundit understands Trump better than Scott Adams. All his predictions for this campaign have been bang on.


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Posted: Jan 27, 2016 - 9:51am

Hours After Trump Dropped Out of Fox News Debate, These Comments He Made in 2011 Surfaced
 
“Should I do the #GOPDebate?” poll
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Posted: Jan 27, 2016 - 9:25am

 rotekz wrote:
 
Dilbert called this shot yesterday:
  • Or perhaps a FOX competitor will offer Trump a show of his own for two hours, at the same time, just to be dicks to FOX. Anything can happen, but all paths seem to favor Trump.
  • Now let’s say you are Donald Trump, the scariest Republican that any Democrat has seen in ages. What is the one best thing he can do to separate himself from the Republican machine and show that he can be a deal-maker for everyone? Answer: Punch FOX News in the mouth. Right in front of you.
 
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Posted: Jan 27, 2016 - 8:57am

A great tweet a moment ago:

Trump just turned the whole into the KIDDIE TABLE...



Trump is holding his own event to raise money for wounded veterans that other campaigns are now wanting to be part of. When the ratings come out Fox is going to be so humiliated... if they still have any candidates taking part.  

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/01/27/trump-campaign-manager-other-candidates-thinking-about-skipping-fox-debate/

Speaking on Good Morning America and Morning Joe this morning, Donald Trump campaign manager Corey Lewandowski hinted that other candidates were thinking of dropping out of the upcoming Fox News debate after Trump decided to bail.



http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/poll-without-trump-83-say-they-will-skip-gop-debate/

FOX News host Greta Van Susteren asked her conservative viewers if they will tune in to Thursday’s GOP debate now that Donald Trump has announced he will not participate.

83% of viewers said they WILL NOT watch the debate.

‘Are you going to watch GOP debate?’









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Posted: Jan 27, 2016 - 1:30am

And yet...
Trump Tower Was Built on Undocumented Immigrants’ Backs
‘I Can Make Mistakes’
Mr. Trump, who is expected to testify at the trial, said he had resisted efforts to settle the case out of court. ''It would be cheaper, but on principle I won't,'' he said. ''We did nothing wrong.'' (1998)
The brash brawler settled in 1999...
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Posted: Jan 27, 2016 - 12:10am

Megyn Kelly has cost Fox millions in ad revenue but look at why Fox are so hostile to Trump and yet softball Marco Rubio.

The Anti-Trump Network: Fox News Money Flows into Open Borders Group

The announcement from Donald Trump’s campaign that the Republican frontrunner will “definitely not” partake in Thursday night’s Fox News debate has sent shock waves throughout the nation’s political scene.

At a press event Tuesday evening, Trump seemed to cite disparate treatment from the network as his reasoning for not participating. “What’s wrong over there, something’s wrong,” Trump said of the “games” Roger Ailes and the network are “playing.”

In asking the question of “what’s wrong over there?” Trump has shined a spotlight on one of Washington’s best kept secrets: namely, Fox’s role via its founder Rupert Murdoch in pushing an open borders agenda. The Trump campaign is a direct threat to Murdoch’s efforts to open America’s borders. Well-concealed from virtually all reporting on Fox’s treatment of Trump is the fact that Murdoch is the co-chair of what is arguably one of the most powerful immigration lobbying firms in country, the Partnership for a New American Economy (PNAE).

In addition to blanketing the country, media, and politicians with literature, advertisements, and a barrage of lobbyists pushing for open border immigration policies, the Partnership for A New American Economy (PNAE) was a prime lobbyist for one of the biggest open borders pushes in American history: Sen. Marco Rubio’s 2013 Gang of Eight immigration bill.

While Donald Trump has pledged to deport those illegally residing in the country and temporarily pause Muslim migration, Rubio’s immigration bill would have granted immediate amnesty and eventual citizenship to millions of illegal aliens, it would have doubled the annual admission of foreign workers, and it would have dispensed 33 million green cards to foreign nationals in the span of a single decade despite current record immigration levels.

While Megyn Kelly made headlines with her heated questioning of Donald Trump, not one of the Fox News anchors asked Rubio in the first Fox News debate about his signature piece of legislation, which Murdoch’s immigration lobbying firm had endorsed. Instead, they lobbed Rubio a series of softballs, such as asking Rubio if he could put God and veterans in the same sentence.




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Posted: Jan 26, 2016 - 8:37pm

 islander wrote:
Really, at what point will he peel off the mask and reveal (...) 

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Posted: Jan 26, 2016 - 8:30pm

 DaveInVA wrote: 
Really, at what point will he peel off the mask and reveal himself as Andy Kaufman?

Tank you veddy much. 
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Posted: Jan 26, 2016 - 6:02pm

Trump campaign says candidate won’t participate in Fox News/Google debate


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Posted: Jan 26, 2016 - 4:25pm

 ScottN wrote:
Perhaps not for money, but few run for POTUS for the salary and bennies.
Ego is another matter altogether.  The common thread in Trump's  bloviation is his ego and narcissism.
 
A match made in heaven with the American Id. {#Mrgreen}
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Posted: Jan 26, 2016 - 4:17pm

 ScottN wrote:

Perhaps not for money, but few run for POTUS for the salary and bennies.
Ego is another matter altogether.  The common thread in Trump's  bloviation is his ego and narcissism.

 
As opposed to his predecessors.
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Posted: Jan 26, 2016 - 3:02pm

 ChillBabe wrote:

... as a Trump stumper from day 1, I can tell you that he is the ONLY candidate of any party who has the passion for the work at hand.  What is amazing, to me, is that he has not joined the many $billionaires who have already taken their money, corporations, jobs and families abroad, leaving the USA behind.  Trump does NOT need the presidency ... I like that the most!

 
Perhaps not for money, but few run for POTUS for the salary and bennies.
Ego is another matter altogether.  The common thread in Trump's  bloviation is his ego and narcissism.
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