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Posted: Jan 29, 2017 - 7:36pm

 kurtster wrote:

I voted to destroy the status quo, the establishment, which has a stranglehold on both parties and the country.  In essence the state for that is what the state is presently.  The government is not functioning the way it should, imo.

This is the second time in my life where a POTUS who is independently wealthy and thus not subject to the usual pressures that the establishment can exert.  The first was JFK, but we all know how that ended.  I fear Trump will suffer the same fate for the same reasons.  I just hope that he can get enough done before that happens.

Rarely does a second chance like this happen.  I believe that Trump is trying to dismantle the establishment and put the government back to the way it was designed and intended by the Constitution and its authors.  He's making us talk about things we should have dealt with decades ago.  Maybe we will get it right, again.  That is my hope. 

If that is grounds for hate, then so be it. 

 
spoken like a true enemy of the state.  
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Posted: Jan 29, 2017 - 7:30pm


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Posted: Jan 29, 2017 - 7:18pm

 Isabeau wrote:

{#Lol}   "All those Rich Guys dont need anymore money, so they won't be swayed by it."

OMG, the naiveté !!

 
{#Roflol}
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Posted: Jan 29, 2017 - 7:17pm

 ScottFromWyoming wrote: 
Thank you.
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Posted: Jan 29, 2017 - 7:00pm

 Isabeau wrote:

Indeed. Please elaborate for us your Alternative Facts and name a news source that isn't Breibart, Fox or Alex Jones.  Fire away sir. Links will be appreciated ... 

Please remember we are not talking about Clinton or Obama tangents, conspiracies or six degrees removed, we are discussing TRUMP and his policies' effect TODAY.  

Please stay on topic. Thanks
 
I'll give it a try, but just by offering my opinion based upon my own observations.  So if that's not good enough, stop reading now.

Addressing the countries on that list not excluded.  Lebanon, I'm not sure why.  Egypt and the UAE are not currently at war with anyone and Obama himself has judged the UAE secure enough to take in Gitmo releasees.   

Saudi Arabia, should be, but for a lot of reasons I can imagine, not.  First, although at war with adjacent country Yemen, it is peaceful within yet fragile, its also stable and vetting can be done easily under present circumstances.  Perhaps after the review Trump has ordered, that will change.  Whatever the conclusions of the review, I think that it is safe to conclude that the standards arrived at will be universally applied.  I have absolutely no love for Saudi Arabia, but its stability in that area is of utmost importance, until we are totally free of the need for any oil in that region.  Once free, we can boogie and let the rest of the world deal with the Middle East on their own, paid for by the rest of the world for a change.  Russia doesn't need their oil, but China does.  I think that its time for China to step up to the plate on the Middle East and taste shit for the first time in a long, long time.

2¢ 
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Posted: Jan 29, 2017 - 6:53pm

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Isabeau

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Posted: Jan 29, 2017 - 6:44pm

 kurtster wrote:

I voted to destroy the status quo, the establishment, which has a stranglehold on both parties and the country.  In essence the state for that is what the state is presently.  The government is not functioning the way it should, imo.

This is the second time in my life where a POTUS who is independently wealthy and thus not subject to the usual pressures that the establishment can exert.  The first was JFK, but we all know how that ended.  I fear Trump will suffer the same fate for the same reasons.  I just hope that he can get enough done before that happens.

Rarely does a second chance like this happen.  I believe that Trump is trying to dismantle the establishment and put the government back to the way it was designed and intended by the Constitution and its authors.  He's making us talk about things we should have dealt with decades ago.  Maybe we will get it right, again.  That is my hope. 

If that is grounds for hate, then so be it. 

 
No darling. That was FDR. He had money. He also experienced a humbling, disabling condition. Thus having more compassion for those less off than himself.

Trumplethinskin is worried about crowd sizes and how the media portrays him. Please spare me the comedy that this man has any redeeming character.

Your argument is paper thin...
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Posted: Jan 29, 2017 - 6:41pm

 kurtster wrote:

I voted to destroy the status quo, the establishment, which has a stranglehold on both parties and the country.  In essence the state for that is what the state is presently.  The government is not functioning the way it should, imo.

This is the second time in my life where a POTUS who is independently wealthy and thus not subject to the usual pressures that the establishment can exert.  The first was JFK, but we all know how that ended.  I fear Trump will suffer the same fate for the same reasons.  I just hope that he can get enough done before that happens.

Rarely does a second chance like this happen.  I believe that Trump is trying to dismantle the establishment and put the government back to the way it was designed and intended by the Constitution and its authors.  He's making us talk about things we should have dealt with decades ago.  Maybe we will get it right, again.  That is my hope. 

If that is grounds for hate, then so be it. 

 
{#Lol}   "All those Rich Guys dont need anymore money, so they won't be swayed by it."

OMG, the naiveté !!
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Posted: Jan 29, 2017 - 6:36pm

 ojibwe wrote:

If you truly voted to destroy the state, then do not be surprised when you are the recipient of hate. 

At best, it's misguided.

At worst, it's treason.
 

 
I voted to destroy the status quo, the establishment, which has a stranglehold on both parties and the country.  In essence the state for that is what the state is presently.  The government is not functioning the way it should, imo.

This is the second time in my life where a POTUS who is independently wealthy and thus not subject to the usual pressures that the establishment can exert.  The first was JFK, but we all know how that ended.  I fear Trump will suffer the same fate for the same reasons.  I just hope that he can get enough done before that happens.

Rarely does a second chance like this happen.  I believe that Trump is trying to dismantle the establishment and put the government back to the way it was designed and intended by the Constitution and its authors.  He's making us talk about things we should have dealt with decades ago.  Maybe we will get it right, again.  That is my hope. 

If that is grounds for hate, then so be it. 
Isabeau

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Posted: Jan 29, 2017 - 6:29pm

 Red_Dragon wrote:


 
"But I brought you into my home. I fed you, I nursed you back to health, how can you do this to me?"

and the Snake replied: "I am a snake, I bite and it is poisonous. Madam, you knew I was a snake when you took me in." 
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Posted: Jan 29, 2017 - 6:26pm


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Posted: Jan 29, 2017 - 6:26pm

 KurtfromLaQuinta wrote:
I'm willing to give him a chanceJust like I did President Obama.
  
Since he hit the ground running and every single thing he has done is horribly misguided in my view, I think I can stop giving him a chance.

But really, what does giving a politician a chance mean? Not criticizing things you disagree with? Not advocating for what you believe? Sitting on the sideline while freedom you value is attacked from within? It just seems like such an odd concept at this point.

I suppose you could give him a chance to present an improved version of health care as he has promised. Ok, that isn't a choice one way or the other on your part. And it is true I am highly skeptical that any changes will be for the better. But repealing ACA with no replacement isn't adequate to 'give him a chance'. 
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Posted: Jan 29, 2017 - 6:19pm

 Red_Dragon wrote:

Yes - see the 25th amendment... 

 
Betting pools are beginning as to when Trump totally crosses the line and the GOP decide to move forward with impeachment (plenty of material) and install Pence as an interim until 2020. Then they will have a new candidate.
They will NOT allow him to jeopardize the security of the country, the wealthy's comfort, the status quo in Congress, or big money made in Trade deals. I'm thinking civil unrest and violent outbreaks by Mid April, a full-on riot on Capital Hill around July 4th.
I hope its a bet I will lose.
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Posted: Jan 29, 2017 - 6:11pm


Yes - see the 25th amendment... 
Isabeau

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Posted: Jan 29, 2017 - 5:48pm

 KurtfromLaQuinta wrote:

Open minds are good things. {#Cheesygrin}

 
Yes they are.

So why is Trump judging Every Person from 7 Countries as AUTOMATICALLY SUSPECT? 

Indeed, let's hear more about Open Minds...
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Posted: Jan 29, 2017 - 5:38pm

After all that he said during the campaign, after the first week of his presidency... there is no "give him a chance". No. None.
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Posted: Jan 29, 2017 - 5:35pm

 ojibwe wrote:

I am cool with that. I did not mean to come off all in-yo-face. There are many who are giving him a chance, and I hope he comes around and accurately gauges the mood of the country. 

 
Open minds are good things. {#Cheesygrin}
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Posted: Jan 29, 2017 - 5:34pm

 Isabeau wrote:

Sarcasm dear, not hysterics. A shame men like you cannot tell the difference.

 
Wow.
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Posted: Jan 29, 2017 - 5:34pm

 KurtfromLaQuinta wrote:
I'm willing to give him a chance. Just like I did President Obama.
 
I am cool with that. I did not mean to come off all in-yo-face. There are many who are giving him a chance, and I hope he comes around and accurately gauges the mood of the country. 
Isabeau

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Posted: Jan 29, 2017 - 5:33pm

 ojibwe wrote:

I think a more relevant statistic might be an accounting of the interests the C-in-C has in the countries whose citizens were banned, versus those from countries who were not banned.

Saudi Arabia, I'm looking at you.  

 
Spot on sir.
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