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Posted: Aug 1, 2018 - 4:52pm

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Posted: Aug 1, 2018 - 10:31am

 VV wrote:

Out of this ever-churning sh*t storm... that is troubling you?
 
{#Lol}

 
Yeah.....today that is troubling to me.  Everything else has been troubling since day 1.  Making an enemy of the press is incredibly reckless and dangerous to us all.
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Posted: Aug 1, 2018 - 10:22am

 pigtail wrote: 
Out of this ever-churning sh*t storm... that is troubling you?
 
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Posted: Aug 1, 2018 - 9:54am

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/anderson-cooper-sarah-huckabee-sanders-briefings_us_5b616356e4b0b15aba9ded16

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Posted: Aug 1, 2018 - 9:50am

 NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote:

 precisely.

"This is a terrible situation and Attorney General Jeff Sessions should stop this Rigged Witch Hunt right now, before it continues to stain our country any further"

said the biggest skid mark in (recent American) history.
 

 
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Posted: Aug 1, 2018 - 8:46am

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Yet another example of the ignorant, out-of-touch and ill-prepared utterances that we have come to expect from our unfit POTUS.
 
WTF man... can't you even get the most basic of facts correct?
 
If you can't even get the little stuff right... 


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Posted: Aug 1, 2018 - 8:21am

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Black and Kurtster (and anyone else following this exchange):

Policies?  Ok, we can talk policies.

But let's not get distracted by rhetoric —e.g., those in the "swamp" and "establishment" of course are against Trump's "policies."  That's an example of not talking policy.  Same with claims that Trump is doing things "differently."  We need something more specific than that if we are going to talk policy.  What exactly is he doing in terms of pursuing a particular policy?  I don't want to hear things like there is method to his madness, just wait.  That tells me nothing in terms of policy.

Tax cuts?  Gee, what a unique idea!  All Republicans propose tax cuts. Nothing new there. -and as i noted, not really a republican ideal as it will lead to even larger deficits 

Deregulation?  I agree with black that we are seeing a gutting of various agencies, including the State Department.  The deregulation in EPA may be good for business/economy — at least in the short term — but it likely will not be good in the long haul.

Health care?  No proposal other than to get rid of Obamacare. A glaring lack of anything from this administration.  - there actually has been some "focus" on pulling in drug prices, but no real concrete strategy has been disclosed.  Then there is weakening of obamacare (partial promise kept) and his plan for associations.  So i give him a C+ here for effort

Immigration?  I know Kurtster's views on this being a single issue of importance to him.  We have talked enough about it here. My view is The Wall is a matter of symbolism.  That said, I will wait and see if we end up with a significant reform. I am not, however, interested in inflaming people about criminals pouring over the border with Mexico.  Nor am I interested in branding entire groups of people. That bodes ill for our collective future as it gives rise to accelerated forms of racial and ethnic hatred.  That always needs to be tamped down, not exploited . at the height of this issue a few months back, he did make a reasonable plea to bargain with the democrats, but they took a hard line stance, and back to the rhetoric we go.   

Trade wars and tariffs?  He keeps promising better "deals" but so far nothing. -agreed, and hassling our allies, who can help us with China, isn't very smart; although recently he's changed his tone and seems willing to work with the allies       

Foreign policy appears to be a mess especially if we are judging by the reactions of our usual allies, which, I would assert, is a good place to start the analysis.  America First and MAGA are not policies; those are bumper sticker slogans. - ok, but ISIS is on the run and more contained

Frankly, there has been very little in the way of information about specific policies being pursued, much less results realized.  Instead we are being told to just trust in Trump — see earlier comment about method to the madness.  Why in the world should I trust this man?  What in his past or present should lead me to trust in what he says  or does?  He plays fast and loose with the facts at all times.  He engages in obvious propaganda techniques.He demonizes those in the media and in the intelligence community solely because it serves his political purposes and despite  the great damage to the underpinnings of our democracy. He assails those who dare to criticize him and does so in personal terms. It is lowest common denominator time.   

He is not draining the swamp.  If anything, he is dragging the rest of us in with him. - not draining any swamp, but certainly doing things his way, which the GOP is now supporting...back to my point as to why?  

              



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Posted: Aug 1, 2018 - 8:10am

 Red_Dragon wrote:

A master of projection.

 
 precisely.

"This is a terrible situation and Attorney General Jeff Sessions should stop this Rigged Witch Hunt right now, before it continues to stain our country any further"

said the biggest skid mark in (recent American) history.
 


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Posted: Aug 1, 2018 - 8:07am

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"stain our country"   at least he's good for a laugh.

 
A master of projection.
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Posted: Aug 1, 2018 - 8:01am

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"stain our country"   at least he's good for a laugh.
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Posted: Aug 1, 2018 - 7:52am

Trump says attorney general should stop Mueller probe 'right now'
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Posted: Aug 1, 2018 - 6:13am

This from a guy who's probably never been in a grocery store in his life...
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Posted: Jul 31, 2018 - 11:37pm

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but I bet you don't trust him meeting them or anyone else alone.  IIRC Obama stated the policy of meeting anyone without preconditions as a candidate.  Trump waited and got some time under his belt before coming out with this position.

How about the policy of putting the US' interests first above all else ?  Isn't that a good policy ?  I'm surprised no one likes that.  At least those who have also chimed in.

That makes all the rest easy to figure out.  The US should be subservient to all other countries and it goes downhill from there.  Obama's lead from behind policy is still popular and the preferred policy of so many.  No wonder there is so much disagreement.

 
I thought Obama wouldn't meet with the N Koreans without the S Koreans present. I could be wrong about that.

Not impressed with Trump "waiting" since he was starting from scratch and was spending way too much of his time golfing, anyway.
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Posted: Jul 31, 2018 - 6:51pm

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This. But really pretty much every other policy is so abhorrent to me that I would oppose him, even if I agreed with all the others. Especially giving kids PTSD by essentially torturing them by separating them from their families and their detention conditions.

And letting the anti-choice sobs take control.

And blowing out the budget by giving money to the rich

And rolling back health care

And the Russians

etc.

Frankly I can't understand why you stand for those things just because you want the fucking wall.

 
Not me.

all in all, it's just another brick in the wall. 
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Posted: Jul 31, 2018 - 6:29pm

 kurtster wrote:

but I bet you don't trust him meeting them or anyone else alone.  IIRC Obama stated the policy of meeting anyone without preconditions as a candidate.  Trump waited and got some time under his belt before coming out with this position.

How about the policy of putting the US' interests first above all else ?  Isn't that a good policy ?  I'm surprised no one likes that.  At least those who have also chimed in.

That makes all the rest easy to figure out.  The US should be subservient to all other countries and it goes downhill from there.  Obama's lead from behind policy is still popular and the preferred policy of so many.  No wonder there is so much disagreement.

 
I have no problem with his having one-on-one meetings. Can you explain why we have not heard anything from him about what was discussed at his meeting with Putin, much less what agreements may have been reached?  The Russians have been talking about it, so it is not a matter of keeping it confidential.

I already stated that America First is not a policy. I thought there was interest in talking about specific Trump policies? 

Edit: here are other things that are not policies: (1) MAGA; (2) Build That Wall!; (3) Lock Her Up! (4) Rigged Witch Hunt!; (5) Fake News!

Hint: Chants at political rallies are not policies.



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Posted: Jul 31, 2018 - 5:43pm

 steeler wrote:

Part of what I am saying is I am not even sure of his policies. 

That said, I do agree with his willingness to meet with leaders of North Korea and Iran (Remember that candidate Obama was pilloried as a foreign policy novice when he suggested meeting with leaders like these without pre-conditions). I cringe, though, when Trump claims that just meeting with Kim Jong Un of North Korea was a great achievement in and of itself, and his declaring that North Korea was no longer a threat.  In all areas, he seems more interested in "winning" — the appearance of winning — than he does in actual achievements.            

 
but I bet you don't trust him meeting them or anyone else alone.  IIRC Obama stated the policy of meeting anyone without preconditions as a candidate.  Trump waited and got some time under his belt before coming out with this position.

How about the policy of putting the US' interests first above all else ?  Isn't that a good policy ?  I'm surprised no one likes that.  At least those who have also chimed in.

That makes all the rest easy to figure out.  The US should be subservient to all other countries and it goes downhill from there.  Obama's lead from behind policy is still popular and the preferred policy of so many.  No wonder there is so much disagreement.
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Posted: Jul 31, 2018 - 4:29pm

 haresfur wrote:
"That said, I do agree with his willingness to meet with leaders of North Korea and Iran" 

This. But really pretty much every other policy is so abhorrent to me that I would oppose him, even if I agreed with all the others. Especially giving kids PTSD by essentially torturing them by separating them from their families and their detention conditions.

And letting the anti-choice sobs take control.

And blowing out the budget by giving money to the rich

And rolling back health care

And the Russians

etc.

Frankly I can't understand why you stand for those things just because you want the fucking wall.

 


If you back up the first thought to something like "a willingness to reduce global tensions and find ways to restrict nuclear proliferation", I'd agree with the basic sentiment. But Trump is trying to bully NK and Iran into giving up their nuclear capabilities and that's NOT going to work. 

In terms of NK—he got some fuzzy agreement from Kim that NK would denuclearize without any real commitment or agreement that the West could monitor The Hermit Kingdom for compliance. As it is, NK is continuing R&D on advanced missile technologies even after that love-in with Trump. Even if Kim agreed to in-country monitoring, it would be practically impossible to ensure full compliance. 

In terms of Iran—Trump wants to blow up the agreement that the West reached with Iran. The agreement that allowed for monitoring and the sending of weapons-grade uranium out of Iran. 

Trump's meetings with enemy leaders are stunts. Maybe Trump thinks that he can charm or shmooze these leaders into doing something for the US but that's very likely not ever going to happen. Kim and Rouhani aren't going to risk losing face or strategic advantage by bargaining with Trump without their respective governments working behind the scenes long beforehand towards common agreements. Most of these summit meetings are mostly ceremonial events that come AFTER negotiations by lower-level officials. 


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Posted: Jul 31, 2018 - 4:10pm

 steeler wrote:

Part of what I am saying is I am not even sure of his policies. 

That said, I do agree with his willingness to meet with leaders of North Korea and Iran (Remember that candidate Obama was pilloried as a foreign policy novice when he suggested meeting with leaders like these without pre-conditions). I cringe, though, when Trump claims that just meeting with Kim Jong Un of North Korea was a great achievement in and of itself, and his declaring that North Korea was no longer a threat.  In all areas, he seems more interested in "winning" — the appearance of winning — than he does in actual achievements.            

 
This. But really pretty much every other policy is so abhorrent to me that I would oppose him, even if I agreed with all the others. Especially giving kids PTSD by essentially torturing them by separating them from their families and their detention conditions.

And letting the anti-choice sobs take control.

And blowing out the budget by giving money to the rich

And rolling back health care

And the Russians

etc.

Frankly I can't understand why you stand for those things just because you want the fucking wall.
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