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cc_rider

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Posted: May 17, 2021 - 7:56am

 kcar wrote:

And yes, as others here have pointed out: if you're so upset about Hunter getting a position at Burisma, where is your outrage over there deals Ivanka and Jared scored for themselves?

Those deals are actually 'charity'. They are not qualified to actually DO anything, so just set 'em in a corner with a shiny object.
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Posted: May 16, 2021 - 6:42pm

And yes, as others here have pointed out: if you're so upset about Hunter getting a position at Burisma, where is your outrage over there deals Ivanka and Jared scored for themselves?
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Posted: May 16, 2021 - 6:38pm

 kurtster wrote:


I saw the 8% number quite a few times, but that was a while ago.  I went with the lowest number that I had seen / heard.

Here try this one ...

Media's hiding of Hunter Biden scandal robbed Trump of clear win: Poll

Would it matter to you if this was true ? 


What scandal? What hiding?

Hunter Biden got paid to be on the board of Burisma Holdings. He was hardly the first relation of a prominent politician to get a cushy job without any real qualifications.

The mainstream press investigated this. IIRC the FBI and other govt agencies investigated this. There was no scandal to uncover. We've been over and over this.

As for voters not being aware of Hunter Biden... Where the f$#k were they? Trump couldn't stop talking about Hunter and Joe and Ukraine and China. Giuliani babbled about big revelations coming. Hunter's laptop was supposed to blow things open.

As for the poll you point to I'm deeply skeptical of its credibility. I can't imagine a significant number of Biden voters can even remember Hunter at this point.

Trump lost because he botched the handling of Covid and contributed to the deaths of 400,000 more Americans than should have died with more competent government response. Hunter Biden had nothing to do with it.
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Posted: May 16, 2021 - 6:24pm

 kurtster wrote:


I saw the 8% number quite a few times, but that was a while ago.  I went with the lowest number that I had seen / heard.

Here try this one ...

Media's hiding of Hunter Biden scandal robbed Trump of clear win: Poll

Would it matter to you if this was true ? 


I won't vote for his re-election .... once you show me the evidence.


BTW - the optics are bad....but he didn't do anything the Trump kids weren't out doing with the Chinese patents and overseas money.    One difference, Hunter never got paid from the campaign funds raised.
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Posted: May 16, 2021 - 6:00pm

 Lazy8 wrote:

That 8% number seems oddly specific...and unlikely. So I went googling for it. Didn't find it, but I found various mouth-foaming sources claiming other fanciful figures.  One in 6 (17%) (Media Research Center, a right-wing think tank), 10% (Donald F#cking Trump, pulled out of whatever orifice he gets stats from) but no one claiming your particular random number.

So which orifice did this come from? Just curious, it's not going to make me...do anything in particular.

While you're doing your (ahem) research maybe look this up: how many Trump voters would have changed their votes after the Jan. 6th riots?


I saw the 8% number quite a few times, but that was a while ago.  I went with the lowest number that I had seen / heard.

Here try this one ...

Media's hiding of Hunter Biden scandal robbed Trump of clear win: Poll

Would it matter to you if this was true ? 
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Posted: May 16, 2021 - 9:18am

 kurtster wrote:
yes.  Already have I thought.  Is what it is.

So while there are simple numbers above that we agree on ... try this

Regarding the election as I mentioned earlier, based on polling 8% of Biden voters would have changed their votes had they known about the Hunter Biden story before the election.  The story as we know was censored into oblivion by the media powers that be, to prevent the information being seen as much as possible in order to manipulate the vote.

Now is 8% of 82 million enough to swing the election the other way ?  How about as little as 5% ?

That 8% number seems oddly specific...and unlikely. So I went googling for it. Didn't find it, but I found various mouth-foaming sources claiming other fanciful figures.  One in 6 (17%) (Media Research Center, a right-wing think tank), 10% (Donald F#cking Trump, pulled out of whatever orifice he gets stats from) but no one claiming your particular random number.

So which orifice did this come from? Just curious, it's not going to make me...do anything in particular.

While you're doing your (ahem) research maybe look this up: how many Trump voters would have changed their votes after the Jan. 6th riots?
westslope

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Posted: May 16, 2021 - 8:12am

 kurtster wrote:


.....
Regarding the election as I mentioned earlier, based on polling 8% of Biden voters would have changed their votes had they known about the Hunter Biden story before the election.  The story as we know was censored into oblivion by the media powers that be, to prevent the information being seen as much as possible in order to manipulate the vote.

........

kurtster, do you not have any interest in American politics evolving beyond tabloid-style gutter, sensationalist politics?  Why do you treat your fellow Americans like they are so naive, so shallow, so gullible, so stupid? 

The Democrats also pounded mercilessly on an unsavoury connection between President Trump and Russia.  The Democrats made up all kinds of nonsense.  You and your fellow Trump supporters opened these floodgates of political mendacity.  Actually you did not open the floodgates, you simply took them to new heights.

The racist baiting of the Chinese by Trump was totally over the top.   And it was effective, even self-styled North American progressives believed the lies about Chinese industrial policy.

The Muslim ban?   Remember the American Sikhs who were murdered because they looked like Semitic rag heads?  That is on you and your Trump movement kurtster.

I know it is hard.  You and other Americans have been socialized into glorifying ethnic cleansing terrorism from a very early age.  The USA would not exist today without ethnic cleansing terrorism.   That explains in part your broad multi-partisan blank-cheque support for the thuggish anti-Semitic Israeli nation building project. 

As killing grandchildren and grandparents and stealing resources at the point of a gun (or aerial bombing) is bound to be controversial for society that PRETENDS to follow Judeo-Christian ethics and morals, is it a surprise that everybody gravitates to political mendacity with heavy doses of historical revisionism and narratives that deliberately talk around the issues?  


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Posted: May 16, 2021 - 12:13am

 Lazy8 wrote:

For the record: 82 million > 75 million, right?

Does this mean you're acknowledging that Trump lost by 7 million votes?


yes.  Already have I thought.  Is what it is.

So while there are simple numbers above that we agree on ... try this

Regarding the election as I mentioned earlier, based on polling 8% of Biden voters would have changed their votes had they known about the Hunter Biden story before the election.  The story as we know was censored into oblivion by the media powers that be, to prevent the information being seen as much as possible in order to manipulate the vote.

Now is 8% of 82 million enough to swing the election the other way ?  How about as little as 5% ?
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Posted: May 15, 2021 - 1:08am

 kurtster wrote:

Dismiss / ignore the thoughts of 75 million people at your own peril.



Agreed.  Treating politics as a sporting like winner takes all game is a really bad idea.


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Posted: May 14, 2021 - 10:45pm

 kurtster wrote:
I don't know what broad light is cast on the 82 million, but we know that the 82 million (at the very least) view the 75 million as deplorable and irredeemable.

For the record: 82 million > 75 million, right?

Does this mean you're acknowledging that Trump lost by 7 million votes?
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Posted: May 14, 2021 - 10:08pm

The point is being the proxy (100% of you democrats believed or 82 million think) of what those poor ignored folks out there like to think.

Then there is the general problem of viewing large groups as monolithic...

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Posted: May 14, 2021 - 9:57pm

 R_P wrote:

I'd say that's broad enough and a good example...



You mean this ?


But then of course 100% of you democrats were told by your party leaders and media pundits and believed that there was no way in hell that we would have a successful vaccine by the end of 2020.


I would just say that it was a true statement at the time, based upon my observations.  Ok, maybe 99% ...

or is there another part you refer to ?
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Posted: May 14, 2021 - 9:29pm

 kurtster wrote:
I don't know what broad light is cast on the 82 million, but we know that the 82 million (at the very least) view the 75 million as deplorable and irredeemable.

I'd say that's broad enough and a good example...
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Posted: May 14, 2021 - 9:25pm

 R_P wrote:

More insurrections?

By using you as a proxy, folks can get a pretty good idea what they think of the 82 million people (since we're rounding up) who ousted their messiah...



I don't know what broad light is cast on the 82 million, but we know that the 82 million (at the very least) view the 75 million as deplorable and irredeemable.

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Posted: May 14, 2021 - 9:13pm

 kurtster wrote:

Dismiss / ignore the thoughts of 75 million people at your own peril.


More insurrections?

By using you as a proxy, folks can get a pretty good idea what they think of the 82 million people (since we're rounding up) who ousted their messiah...
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Posted: May 14, 2021 - 8:37pm

75 million delusional idiots... yes, they terrify me.

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Posted: May 14, 2021 - 8:35pm

Dismiss / ignore the thoughts of 75 million people at your own peril.

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Posted: May 14, 2021 - 7:58pm

 haresfur wrote:

What surprises me is that the republican old guard is so incompetent at the politics of fending off MAGA. They are allowing themselves to be picked off one by one rather than getting together with enough clout to do something and not get cancelled.




The GOP establishment is worried about Trump's base, not the Orange Gourd himself, imo.  Primaries, etc.
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Posted: May 14, 2021 - 7:38pm

 haresfur wrote:

What surprises me is that the republican old guard is so incompetent at the politics of fending off MAGA. They are allowing themselves to be picked off one by one rather than getting together with enough clout to do something and not get cancelled.



Dr. Frankenstein never recognized the monster in his creation until it was too late.
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Posted: May 14, 2021 - 6:59pm

 cc_rider wrote:
My problem with Cheney, besides her policy positions I mean, is she waited all this time to speak up? She knew full well who Trump was from the git-go. So did McConnell, McCarthy, Graham (gah!), Cruz (double gah!), and the whole stinkin' bunch. They all, including Rep. Cheney, emboldened and legitimized a man who has zero morals, ethics, or human decency. Where were they when he called Ted's wife ugly? When he said Cruz's father was involved in the Kennedy assassination? When he said 'Grab 'em by the p****'? When he told easily- disproved lies (not 'falsehoods' or 'misrepresentations' or whatever window-dressing), tens of thousands of times?

I have zero sympathy, and only grudging respect, for Liz Cheney's plight. She helped create the monster, and the monster turned on her - who could have imagined that might happen? McConnell and the others would do well to remember her fate, because they are next.
c.




What surprises me is that the republican old guard is so incompetent at the politics of fending off MAGA. They are allowing themselves to be picked off one by one rather than getting together with enough clout to do something and not get cancelled.

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