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sirdroseph

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Posted: Aug 1, 2020 - 6:39am

 kurtster wrote:

Where's that old sucko barfo emoji when you need it.  I don't do oysters.

My Dad ate them like candy.  On one summer vacation over to Stinson Beach he took us out to a nearby seafood restaurant for dinner.  He pushed me to try them and I finally gave it a go but they were so repulsive that they couldn't have stayed down for more than seconds.  That was my first and last oysters.

The whole experience has been indelibly melted into my brain.  It is the same restaurant that they used in The Birds.  The one that goes out over the water on pilings where the birds come in to attack the whole town starting with that restaurant on to the gas station and then the school building.  It was actually a very charming little village.  I had my oysters there before the movie got off the story board.

It was very odd at times growing up in places that you saw in movies and television all of the time.  But that is another story for another time.
 
In coastal Carolina oysters are comfort food.  We actually had tables with a hole cut out in the middle to put your shuckin buckets in.  Burn barrels, beer, saltine crackers, cocktail sauce which consist of copious amounts of horseradish with just a splash of ketchup and hot sauce, blood mixed with oyster juice and shell fragments all over your hands from the oyster knife jabs on cold evenings with an R in the month.  Doesn't get any better than that.{#Cowboy}
Proclivities

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Posted: Aug 1, 2020 - 6:29am



 kurtster wrote:

Where's that old sucko barfo emoji when you need it.  I don't do oysters.

My Dad ate them like candy.  On one summer vacation over to Stinson Beach he took us out to a nearby seafood restaurant for dinner.  He pushed me to try them and I finally gave it a go but they were so repulsive that they couldn't have stayed down for more than seconds.  That was my first and last oysters.

The whole experience has been indelibly melted into my brain.  It is the same restaurant that they used in The Birds.  The one that goes out over the water on pilings where the birds come in to attack the whole town starting with that restaurant on to the gas station and then the school building.  It was actually a very charming little village.  I had my oysters there before the movie got off the story board.

It was very odd at times growing up in places that you saw in movies and television all of the time.  But that is another story for another time.
 
Wasn't that restaurant in Bodega Bay?  At least that's where the little schoolhouse was but he likely used different locations for different scenes.  I went into that town on the way back to SF from Sonoma County about 20 years ago; it was the scenic route.  I remember the people who gave us directions said to stay on the whatever road they directed us to until you get to the Bodega Bay and then get on Route 1.  It was a nice drive - quite scenic.
kcar

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Posted: Jul 31, 2020 - 10:44pm



 kurtster wrote:

Where's that old sucko barfo emoji when you need it.  I don't do oysters.

My Dad ate them like candy.  On one summer vacation over to Stinson Beach he took us out to a nearby seafood restaurant for dinner.  He pushed me to try them and I finally gave it a go but they were so repulsive that they couldn't have stayed down for more than seconds.  That was my first and last oysters.

The whole experience has been indelibly melted into my brain.  It is the same restaurant that they used in The Birds.  The one that goes out over the water on pilings where the birds come in to attack the whole town starting with that restaurant on to the gas station and then the school building.  It was actually a very charming little village.  I had my oysters there before the movie got off the story board.

It was very odd at times growing up in places that you saw in movies and television all of the time.  But that is another story for another time.
 

Somewhere, Hitch is chortling malevolently at your long-remembered discomfort. Maybe you should write your own "In Search of Lost Time"—you have your version of madeleine cakes, it seems.  

You could cook the damn oysters, or mix them in with other ingredients. Add 'em to soup or such like. 

Or, you could check out the link I provided which lists many other foods rich in zinc. Oysters just happen to be at the top of the list but you can eat other foods to boost your zinc levels. I'm not keen on health supplement pills because their purity and potency aren't well regulated if at all. 

Stay safe, you crazy diamond. 
kurtster

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Posted: Jul 31, 2020 - 8:52pm

 kcar wrote:

"I've been taking zinc along with Vito C daily for roughly 30 years already. Now you can't find the stuff and when you do it costs 10 times as much as it used to."

Or you could eat some oysters. You can get 'em in a small can in the canned seafood section of your grocery store. 
https://ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/Zinc-HealthProfessional/
 
Where's that old sucko barfo emoji when you need it.  I don't do oysters.

My Dad ate them like candy.  On one summer vacation over to Stinson Beach he took us out to a nearby seafood restaurant for dinner.  He pushed me to try them and I finally gave it a go but they were so repulsive that they couldn't have stayed down for more than seconds.  That was my first and last oysters.

The whole experience has been indelibly melted into my brain.  It is the same restaurant that they used in The Birds.  The one that goes out over the water on pilings where the birds come in to attack the whole town starting with that restaurant on to the gas station and then the school building.  It was actually a very charming little village.  I had my oysters there before the movie got off the story board.

It was very odd at times growing up in places that you saw in movies and television all of the time.  But that is another story for another time.
kurtster

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Posted: Jul 31, 2020 - 8:34pm

 Steely_D wrote:


 kurtster wrote:

If I had an asymptomatic positive or an early positive, I'd start out on it.  The hydro, zinc, zithro cocktail.  No problem at all.

Do you have something better ?
 
Zithromax is typically only taken for a few days, and this infection seems to take multi weeks to resolve. I'd be wary of any MD/NP/DO/PA that's willing to put you on an unproven antibiotic regimen with that much coverage for no symptoms.

Of course, you're in a special situation since you've got the other medical situations to complicate things.

Still, lots of Zithromax  could easily get you a case of C. difficile and that stuff'll kill you.

 
Zithromax IV was the main course when I got locked up for the 4 days that began on March 15 for suspected CV 19.  I have since forgotten what else.  There might have been some Vanco or doxycycline as well.  It took over 60 hours for those results to come back.  They were also giving me as many of my supplements that they had in the pharmacy including my zinc.  Zithromax was the CCF's first line treatment when all this started.

Yeah, C-diff.  Know all about that.  Vanco and Flagyl for months ...  Both my parents had it periodically and the wife has had bouts as well.  Somehow I have managed to dodge that bullet.  My digestive tract seems to be pretty tough and have the right bacteria going.  I've had long high doses of Levaquin, Cipro, Augmentin, Vanco, Heperin, years on Acyclovir post transplant.  Now every couple of months a round of Bactrim to keep the tightness out of my lungs and the bronchitis at bay. All the chemo years ago. Still I manage to keep my digestion working pretty well.  Knock on my wooden head.

Yeah, I wouldn't think twice about using hydroxy c as part of the first line of attack, with the Zithro, Zinc and I would also highly boost my Vito C intake as well.  Again I have taken a daily dose of zinc and Vito C for decades as an anti viral against the common cold virus of which they are related to this one.
Steely_D

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Posted: Jul 31, 2020 - 6:05pm



 kurtster wrote:

If I had an asymptomatic positive or an early positive, I'd start out on it.  The hydro, zinc, zithro cocktail.  No problem at all.

Do you have something better ?
 
Zithromax is typically only taken for a few days, and this infection seems to take multi weeks to resolve. I'd be wary of any MD/NP/DO/PA that's willing to put you on an unproven antibiotic regimen with that much coverage for no symptoms.

Of course, you're in a special situation since you've got the other medical situations to complicate things.

Still, lots of Zithromax  could easily get you a case of C. difficile and that stuff'll kill you.

haresfur

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Posted: Jul 31, 2020 - 4:17pm



 kurtster wrote:

If I had an asymptomatic positive or an early positive, I'd start out on it.  The hydro, zinc, zithro cocktail.  No problem at all.

Do you have something better ?

I've been taking zinc along with Vito C daily for roughly 30 years already.  Now you can't find the stuff and when you do it costs 10 times as much as it used to.
 
I have no problem with doctors prescribing medicines for conditions other than the ones on the approved list (well as long as enough supply is available for people who have those conditions). I have a real problem with politicians giving medical advice that is counter to the current evidence and acting like they know anything. Especially if they don't at least temper it with, "Ask your doctor if hydoxychloroquine is right for you."


buddy

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Posted: Jul 31, 2020 - 3:27pm



 kurtster wrote:

If I had an asymptomatic positive or an early positive, I'd start out on it.  The hydro, zinc, zithro cocktail.  No problem at all.

Do you have something better ?

I've been taking zinc along with Vito C daily for roughly 30 years already.  Now you can't find the stuff and when you do it costs 10 times as much as it used to.
 
 
Don't forget to wash it all down with some of that Trump kool-aid you're drinking there, pal.

Lazy8

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Posted: Jul 31, 2020 - 1:44pm

ScottFromWyoming wrote:
It's okay, he'll be injecting bleach too. 
Edit: But this did make me wonder about horses and my dogs who drink from a galvanized bucket/trough. Seems okay.

Neutral pH, low ionic content.
miamizsun

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Posted: Jul 31, 2020 - 1:03pm

 Lazy8 wrote:
ScottFromWyoming wrote:
You could drop some pennies into your orange juice and let it sit for a few days...

Nononono!
Rival high school cross country coach served the team Gatorade from a galvanized water cooler and put the whole team in the hospital. Zinc is a micronutrient, you don't need much and too much is nasty.

Pennies also have copper in them and copper poisoning is nasty too. Plus... coins are dirty.
 

cash is unbelievably nasty

working with a cash counter at a bank

gummed up from time to time

just yuck
R_P

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Posted: Jul 31, 2020 - 12:52pm

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:
 Lazy8 wrote:
ScottFromWyoming wrote:
You could drop some pennies into your orange juice and let it sit for a few days...

Plus... coins are dirty.
 
It's okay, he'll be injecting bleach too. 

 

ScottFromWyoming

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Posted: Jul 31, 2020 - 12:40pm



 Lazy8 wrote:
ScottFromWyoming wrote:
You could drop some pennies into your orange juice and let it sit for a few days...

Plus... coins are dirty.
 

It's okay, he'll be injecting bleach too. 
Edit: But this did make me wonder about horses and my dogs who drink from a galvanized bucket/trough. Seems okay.
Lazy8

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Posted: Jul 31, 2020 - 12:38pm

ScottFromWyoming wrote:
You could drop some pennies into your orange juice and let it sit for a few days...

Nononono!
Rival high school cross country coach served the team Gatorade from a galvanized water cooler and put the whole team in the hospital. Zinc is a micronutrient, you don't need much and too much is nasty.

Pennies also have copper in them and copper poisoning is nasty too. Plus... coins are dirty.
westslope

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Posted: Jul 31, 2020 - 12:15pm



 kurtster wrote:

If I had an asymptomatic positive or an early positive, I'd start out on it.  The hydro, zinc, zithro cocktail.  No problem at all.

Do you have something better ?


I've been taking zinc along with Vito C daily for roughly 30 years already.  Now you can't find the stuff and when you do it costs 10 times as much as it used to.
 

Yes.  Hike hills, run, bicycle, swim laps, vacuum clean your own abode, use a push mower to cut the lawn, ....; in addition, reduce alcohol, refined carbohydrate, and prepared food consumption.  

kcar

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Posted: Jul 31, 2020 - 12:11pm



 kurtster wrote:

If I had an asymptomatic positive or an early positive, I'd start out on it.  The hydro, zinc, zithro cocktail.  No problem at all.

Do you have something better ?

I've been taking zinc along with Vito C daily for roughly 30 years already.  Now you can't find the stuff and when you do it costs 10 times as much as it used to.
 



"I've been taking zinc along with Vito C daily for roughly 30 years already. Now you can't find the stuff and when you do it costs 10 times as much as it used to."

Or you could eat some oysters. You can get 'em in a small can in the canned seafood section of your grocery store. 


https://ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/Zinc-HealthProfessional/
ScottFromWyoming

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Posted: Jul 31, 2020 - 11:58am



 kurtster wrote:

If I had an asymptomatic positive or an early positive, I'd start out on it.  The hydro, zinc, zithro cocktail.  No problem at all.

Do you have something better ?

I've been taking zinc along with Vito C daily for roughly 30 years already.  Now you can't find the stuff and when you do it costs 10 times as much as it used to.
 
You could drop some pennies into your orange juice and let it sit for a few days...
kurtster

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Posted: Jul 31, 2020 - 1:29am

 westslope wrote:


 haresfur wrote:


 Isabeau wrote:
 

Odds are in favour of his surviving anyway. So he will credit the "treatment"
 

That would be the worst outcome for Team Trump.  If Gohmert survives (for whatever reason) and as a result more people turn to hydroxycholoroquine, then ultimately more people will be hurt.
 
If I had an asymptomatic positive or an early positive, I'd start out on it.  The hydro, zinc, zithro cocktail.  No problem at all.

Do you have something better ?

I've been taking zinc along with Vito C daily for roughly 30 years already.  Now you can't find the stuff and when you do it costs 10 times as much as it used to.
westslope

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Location: BC sage brush steppe


Posted: Jul 31, 2020 - 1:10am



 haresfur wrote:


 Isabeau wrote:
 

Odds are in favour of his surviving anyway. So he will credit the "treatment"
 

That would be the worst outcome for Team Trump.  If Gohmert survives (for whatever reason) and as a result more people turn to hydroxycholoroquine, then ultimately more people will be hurt.
Lazy8

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Posted: Jul 30, 2020 - 9:23pm

haresfur wrote:
Odds are in favour of his surviving anyway. So he will credit the "treatment"

He'll be 67 if he makes it thru August. Decent odds, but not a sure thing. At very least he can get good medical advice while he's being treated, and maybe that will scare him to his senses.

This will be a good test of loyalty: is he all in with the quacks on Team Trump, or does he want a decent shot at surviving for another term?
haresfur

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Posted: Jul 30, 2020 - 8:07pm



 Isabeau wrote:
 

Odds are in favour of his surviving anyway. So he will credit the "treatment"
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