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Lazy8

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Posted: May 14, 2021 - 10:45pm

 kurtster wrote:
I don't know what broad light is cast on the 82 million, but we know that the 82 million (at the very least) view the 75 million as deplorable and irredeemable.

For the record: 82 million > 75 million, right?

Does this mean you're acknowledging that Trump lost by 7 million votes?
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Posted: May 14, 2021 - 10:08pm

The point is being the proxy (100% of you democrats believed or 82 million think) of what those poor ignored folks out there like to think.

Then there is the general problem of viewing large groups as monolithic...

kurtster

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Posted: May 14, 2021 - 9:57pm

 R_P wrote:

I'd say that's broad enough and a good example...



You mean this ?


But then of course 100% of you democrats were told by your party leaders and media pundits and believed that there was no way in hell that we would have a successful vaccine by the end of 2020.


I would just say that it was a true statement at the time, based upon my observations.  Ok, maybe 99% ...

or is there another part you refer to ?
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Posted: May 14, 2021 - 9:29pm

 kurtster wrote:
I don't know what broad light is cast on the 82 million, but we know that the 82 million (at the very least) view the 75 million as deplorable and irredeemable.

I'd say that's broad enough and a good example...
kurtster

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Posted: May 14, 2021 - 9:25pm

 R_P wrote:

More insurrections?

By using you as a proxy, folks can get a pretty good idea what they think of the 82 million people (since we're rounding up) who ousted their messiah...



I don't know what broad light is cast on the 82 million, but we know that the 82 million (at the very least) view the 75 million as deplorable and irredeemable.

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Posted: May 14, 2021 - 9:13pm

 kurtster wrote:

Dismiss / ignore the thoughts of 75 million people at your own peril.


More insurrections?

By using you as a proxy, folks can get a pretty good idea what they think of the 82 million people (since we're rounding up) who ousted their messiah...
Red_Dragon

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Posted: May 14, 2021 - 8:37pm

75 million delusional idiots... yes, they terrify me.

kurtster

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Posted: May 14, 2021 - 8:35pm

Dismiss / ignore the thoughts of 75 million people at your own peril.

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Posted: May 14, 2021 - 7:58pm

 haresfur wrote:

What surprises me is that the republican old guard is so incompetent at the politics of fending off MAGA. They are allowing themselves to be picked off one by one rather than getting together with enough clout to do something and not get cancelled.




The GOP establishment is worried about Trump's base, not the Orange Gourd himself, imo.  Primaries, etc.
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Posted: May 14, 2021 - 7:38pm

 haresfur wrote:

What surprises me is that the republican old guard is so incompetent at the politics of fending off MAGA. They are allowing themselves to be picked off one by one rather than getting together with enough clout to do something and not get cancelled.



Dr. Frankenstein never recognized the monster in his creation until it was too late.
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Posted: May 14, 2021 - 6:59pm

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My problem with Cheney, besides her policy positions I mean, is she waited all this time to speak up? She knew full well who Trump was from the git-go. So did McConnell, McCarthy, Graham (gah!), Cruz (double gah!), and the whole stinkin' bunch. They all, including Rep. Cheney, emboldened and legitimized a man who has zero morals, ethics, or human decency. Where were they when he called Ted's wife ugly? When he said Cruz's father was involved in the Kennedy assassination? When he said 'Grab 'em by the p****'? When he told easily- disproved lies (not 'falsehoods' or 'misrepresentations' or whatever window-dressing), tens of thousands of times?

I have zero sympathy, and only grudging respect, for Liz Cheney's plight. She helped create the monster, and the monster turned on her - who could have imagined that might happen? McConnell and the others would do well to remember her fate, because they are next.
c.




What surprises me is that the republican old guard is so incompetent at the politics of fending off MAGA. They are allowing themselves to be picked off one by one rather than getting together with enough clout to do something and not get cancelled.

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Posted: May 14, 2021 - 6:38pm

Cheney says some GOP members voted against impeachment out of fear for their lives
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Posted: May 14, 2021 - 12:51pm

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:


I'm against her for plenty of reasons. Your policy would have also cancelled JQAdams, the Harrisons... Oh, Barack Obama and George Bush(es) are 10th cousins!

Although I think if you're looking at family trees and find a tenth cousin twice removed, you're probably a closer relative to an actual tree than you are to that person.


are we all cousins?




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Posted: May 14, 2021 - 12:30pm

 rgio wrote:

So by this rule, would FDR have been excluded?  We'd likely not be the country we are today without him (and his wife).



I think FDR was a fifth cousin of Teddy - a common great-great-great-great-grandfather, or something like that.
rgio

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Posted: May 14, 2021 - 11:50am

 islander wrote:


Guess it depends on how we define blood relative. But immediate family would be good enough for me, no husbands/wifes/kids/grandkids. I'm against cousins too while we are at it... if you make the obligatory list for a wedding invitation.   We already get enough nepotism/favoritism in the staffing ranks. Let's not extend it to dynasties.  New people bring new ideas.

So by this rule, would FDR have been excluded?  We'd likely not be the country we are today without him (and his wife).

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Posted: May 14, 2021 - 10:56am

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:


I'm against her for plenty of reasons. Your policy would have also cancelled JQAdams, the Harrisons... Oh, Barack Obama and George Bush(es) are 10th cousins!

Although I think if you're looking at family trees and find a tenth cousin twice removed, you're probably a closer relative to an actual tree than you are to that person.


Guess it depends on how we define blood relative. But immediate family would be good enough for me, no husbands/wifes/kids/grandkids. I'm against cousins too while we are at it... if you make the obligatory list for a wedding invitation.   We already get enough nepotism/favoritism in the staffing ranks. Let's not extend it to dynasties.  New people bring new ideas.
islander

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Posted: May 14, 2021 - 10:52am

 black321 wrote:


Point taken, but she did vote to impeach. 
I guess the capital riot was the last straw.

Good to know there is a line (for some) too far. Sad that it is at the point of literal insurrection and murder.

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Posted: May 14, 2021 - 10:39am

 islander wrote:
Did we learn nothing from our break with the monarchy?  If you have a bloodline connection to any previous administration, you don't have my vote.  Sure, I might be eliminating one or two qualified people, but would have knocked out W, Hillary, and Jeb. You can't tell me that with 300 odd million people out here we can't find a qualified non-relative for the job.

Now there's a stretch. I guess they'll be dusting off the guillotine in Wyoming to get rid of Liz...

Do they have guillotines in Kentucky?
ScottFromWyoming

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Posted: May 14, 2021 - 10:07am

 islander wrote:


Did we learn nothing from our break with the monarchy?  If you have a bloodline connection to any previous administration, you don't have my vote.  Sure, I might be eliminating one or two qualified people, but would have knocked out W, Hillary, and Jeb. You can't tell me that with 300 odd million people out here we can't find a qualified non-relative for the job.


I'm against her for plenty of reasons. Your policy would have also cancelled JQAdams, the Harrisons... Oh, Barack Obama and George Bush(es) are 10th cousins!

Although I think if you're looking at family trees and find a tenth cousin twice removed, you're probably a closer relative to an actual tree than you are to that person.
black321

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Posted: May 14, 2021 - 9:47am

 cc_rider wrote:
My problem with Cheney, besides her policy positions I mean, is she waited all this time to speak up? She knew full well who Trump was from the git-go. So did McConnell, McCarthy, Graham (gah!), Cruz (double gah!), and the whole stinkin' bunch. They all, including Rep. Cheney, emboldened and legitimized a man who has zero morals, ethics, or human decency. Where were they when he called Ted's wife ugly? When he said Cruz's father was involved in the Kennedy assassination? When he said 'Grab 'em by the p****'? When he told easily- disproved lies (not 'falsehoods' or 'misrepresentations' or whatever window-dressing), tens of thousands of times?

I have zero sympathy, and only grudging respect, for Liz Cheney's plight. She helped create the monster, and the monster turned on her - who could have imagined that might happen? McConnell and the others would do well to remember her fate, because they are next.
c.





Point taken, but she did vote to impeach. 
I guess the capital riot was the last straw.
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