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Posted: Oct 27, 2019 - 6:23pm

Yay, Katie Hill with your easily mocked "Californian drugs and sex" lifestyle and your "it's not a Nazi symbol" tat and now you resign. Why the hell did you waste our time when you knew you would be such an easy target? You just handed the GOP some scandalous headlines in return for a minuscule election headline. 
Ohmsen

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Posted: Oct 27, 2019 - 6:12pm

Tulsi Gabbard Needs To Be Stopped... She's Telling People The Truth About US Wars


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Posted: Oct 26, 2019 - 10:11am

Hillary Clinton called me a 'Russian asset'. The establishment is losing its grip
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Posted: Oct 26, 2019 - 4:04am



 ScottFromWyoming wrote:


 kcar wrote:


 black321 wrote:


I haven't followed Gabbard at all, but the article implies that policy-wise, she's sorta all over the map. Is this excerpt from the same NYT article accurate? Personally, I view her apparent support of Bashar al-Assad as a complete deal-breaker.

 

It's difficult for reporters to understand, but she's not "supporting" anyone or anything other than preventing Americans from being killed in an attempt to displace him.
 

Thank you.  We have politicized our wars now to the point to where being anti war just for the sake of it is not even a viable opinion anymore.
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Posted: Oct 25, 2019 - 5:50pm



 kcar wrote:


 black321 wrote:


I haven't followed Gabbard at all, but the article implies that policy-wise, she's sorta all over the map. Is this excerpt from the same NYT article accurate? Personally, I view her apparent support of Bashar al-Assad as a complete deal-breaker.

 

It's difficult for reporters to understand, but she's not "supporting" anyone or anything other than preventing Americans from being killed in an attempt to displace him.
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Posted: Oct 25, 2019 - 4:33pm



 black321 wrote:
What a POS story this is.  It's pretty despicable how the Democons treated Sanders in 2016, and now how they prop up grandma and grandpa.  This is more proof that many Trump supporters are asking a lot of the right questions (though I absolutely believe  Trump is the wrong answer.)

What, Exactly, Is Tulsi Gabbard Up To?

WASHINGTON — Stephen K. Bannon, President Trump’s former chief strategist, is impressed with her political talent. Richard B. Spencer, the white nationalist leader, says he could vote for her. Former Representative Ron Paul praises her “libertarian instincts,” while Franklin Graham, the influential evangelist, finds her “refreshing.”

And far-right conspiracy theorists like Mike Cernovich see a certain MAGA sais quoi.

“She’s got a good energy, a good vibe. You feel like this is just a serious person,” Mr. Cernovich said. “She seems very Trumpian.”

Among her fellow Democrats, Representative Tulsi Gabbard has struggled to make headway as a presidential candidate, barely cracking the 2 percent mark in the polls needed to qualify for Tuesday night’s debate. She is now injecting a bit of chaos into her own party’s primary race, threatening to boycott that debate to protest what she sees as a “rigging” of the 2020 election. That’s left some Democrats wondering what, exactly, she is up to in the race, while others worry about supportive signs from online bot activity and the Russian news media.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/12/us/politics/tulsi-gabbard.html

 

I haven't followed Gabbard at all, but the article implies that policy-wise, she's sorta all over the map. Is this excerpt from the same NYT article accurate? Personally, I view her apparent support of Bashar al-Assad as a complete deal-breaker.



While Ms. Gabbard has opposed recent military interventions in the Middle East, she has developed relationships with leaders known for their authoritarian tendencies. She touts her support for Prime Minister Narendra Modi of India, who has empowered Hindu fundamentalists at great cost to India’s minorities. Ms. Gabbard also met with Egypt’s strongman leader, Abdel Fattah el-Sisi, during a 2015 trip to Paris with Dana Rohrabacher, a former Republican congressman known for his ties to Russians.

Most controversially, she has repeatedly defended the brutal Syrian dictator, Bashar al-Assad, whom she met in January 2017.

Those positions confound even some of her former Republican supporters.

Rabbi Shmuley Boteach, a pro-Israel activist who founded the World Values Network, said he first met Ms. Gabbard through Senator Cory Booker of New Jersey, who brought the congresswoman to dinner at a kosher restaurant in Washington.

His group, which is funded by the Republican megadonors Sheldon and Miriam Adelson, awarded Ms. Gabbard their “Champion of Freedom Award” at their annual gala in 2016. A picture from the event shows a grinning Ms. Gabbard posing with Rabbi Boteach and Ms. Adelson.

In the three years since, Ms. Gabbard has criticized Israel for its reaction to protests, met with Mr. Assad and made several statements defending his regime.

“To have a moral woman like Tulsi who is a military hero suddenly sit with a man who did that was inexplicable,” Rabbi Boteach said. “I don’t understand it until today. I can’t figure her out.”


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Posted: Oct 25, 2019 - 3:32pm

Fretting About Progressives’ ‘Electability,’ Establishment Dems Are Really Worried About Their Power in the Party
Ohmsen

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Posted: Oct 21, 2019 - 7:47am

r/bernieblindness


Documenting the intentional media blackout on Bernie Sanders. This includes the media’s down-playing, ignoring and misrepresentation of Bernie Sanders and his campaign.

MANUFACTURING CONSENT
Bernie Blindness is only a symptom of a much larger issue with the mass media.

The treatment of US political figures by the mass media can be readily understood from the propaganda model outlined by Edward S. Herman and Noam Chomsky in their 1988 book, "Manufacturing Consent". It would predict that those who are most opposed to the existing power structure will face the harshest and most critical treatment. Far more leniency will be extended to those who are most supportive of preserving the existing system.

In the book, the authors propose that the mass communication media of the U.S. "are effective and powerful ideological institutions that carry out a system-supportive propaganda function, by reliance on market forces, internalized assumptions, and self-censorship, and without overt coercion", by means of the propaganda model of communication.

Outline of the 5 filters of MSM: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34LGPIXvU5M

Short summary of Chomsky's analyses: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTBWfkE7BXU&t=14s

Full Manufacturing Consent Documentary: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnrBQEAM3rE 



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Posted: Oct 21, 2019 - 7:20am

 black321 wrote:
What a POS story this is.  It's pretty despicable how the Democons treated Sanders in 2016, and now how they prop up grandma and grandpa.  This is more proof that many Trump supporters are asking a lot of the right questions (though I absolutely believe  Trump is the wrong answer.)

What, Exactly, Is Tulsi Gabbard Up To?

WASHINGTON — Stephen K. Bannon, President Trump’s former chief strategist, is impressed with her political talent. Richard B. Spencer, the white nationalist leader, says he could vote for her. Former Representative Ron Paul praises her “libertarian instincts,” while Franklin Graham, the influential evangelist, finds her “refreshing.”

And far-right conspiracy theorists like Mike Cernovich see a certain MAGA sais quoi.

“She’s got a good energy, a good vibe. You feel like this is just a serious person,” Mr. Cernovich said. “She seems very Trumpian.”

Among her fellow Democrats, Representative Tulsi Gabbard has struggled to make headway as a presidential candidate, barely cracking the 2 percent mark in the polls needed to qualify for Tuesday night’s debate. She is now injecting a bit of chaos into her own party’s primary race, threatening to boycott that debate to protest what she sees as a “rigging” of the 2020 election. That’s left some Democrats wondering what, exactly, she is up to in the race, while others worry about supportive signs from online bot activity and the Russian news media.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/12/us/politics/tulsi-gabbard.html

 
Obviously they are going to try to sweep her under the rug, but I have seen some signs that the DNC actually is thinking properly about the general this year and have learned some lessons after the Clinton debacle.  They are wisely withholding their endorsements of the previously "chosen" Warren because they realize she would be a disaster for them in the general despite Trump's efforts to piss off everyone he can.  Many here may be ready for Socialism, but America as a whole is decidedly not.  If I were a DNC operative, I would be pimping Mayor Pete like nobodies business, he has the best chance in the general if he could get out of the primary.
black321

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Posted: Oct 21, 2019 - 6:34am

What a POS story this is.  It's pretty despicable how the Democons treated Sanders in 2016, and now how they prop up grandma and grandpa.  This is more proof that many Trump supporters are asking a lot of the right questions (though I absolutely believe  Trump is the wrong answer.)

What, Exactly, Is Tulsi Gabbard Up To?

WASHINGTON — Stephen K. Bannon, President Trump’s former chief strategist, is impressed with her political talent. Richard B. Spencer, the white nationalist leader, says he could vote for her. Former Representative Ron Paul praises her “libertarian instincts,” while Franklin Graham, the influential evangelist, finds her “refreshing.”

And far-right conspiracy theorists like Mike Cernovich see a certain MAGA sais quoi.

“She’s got a good energy, a good vibe. You feel like this is just a serious person,” Mr. Cernovich said. “She seems very Trumpian.”

Among her fellow Democrats, Representative Tulsi Gabbard has struggled to make headway as a presidential candidate, barely cracking the 2 percent mark in the polls needed to qualify for Tuesday night’s debate. She is now injecting a bit of chaos into her own party’s primary race, threatening to boycott that debate to protest what she sees as a “rigging” of the 2020 election. That’s left some Democrats wondering what, exactly, she is up to in the race, while others worry about supportive signs from online bot activity and the Russian news media.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/12/us/politics/tulsi-gabbard.html

Ohmsen

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Posted: Oct 19, 2019 - 10:00am

Tulsi Gabbard


"I Stand Against Everything She Represents" - Gabbard Hammers Tired, Sick, Fragile Hillary!


Ms Gabbard:
"Great! Thank you @HillaryClinton. You, the queen of warmongers, embodiment of corruption, and personification of the rot that has sickened the Democratic Party for so long, have finally come out from behind the curtain."


westslope

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Posted: Oct 18, 2019 - 10:17am



 kurtster wrote:

What is it with you and consumption taxes ?
  These kinds of taxes hit the poorest and those on fixed incomes the hardest, period.

One of the biggest keys to economic prosperity is low energy costs.  Our, the USA's, energy gets cleaner and cleaner by the day.  New technology keeps coming online regularly.  We are just a couple of breakthroughs away to major energy source changes.  Don't bankrupt the country and prevent the development of these potential breakthroughs from happening due to a lack of financial resources that result from counterproductive artificially high energy costs. 
 

Kurtster,

Economists and tax experts have been calling for the weight of taxation to be shifted to consumption away from income and production for a rather long time.    

Look around.  US excise taxes on deadly, polluting fossil fuels are the lowest among the rich OECD countries.    The USA is the ONLY rich western country that does not use value-added sales taxes (VAT).

Now look at the socio-economic performance of the 'other' rich OECD countries.   Why is America's performance so poor by comparison?  Why do you have a galloping obesity epidemic?      


Why are so many economies with much higher taxes on deadly, polluting fuels performing so well if 'cheap energy' is the key to better outcomes?


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Posted: Oct 17, 2019 - 6:43pm

 westslope wrote:


 sirdroseph wrote:
If the DNC were smart and they are not, they would throw their weight behind this Pete fellow.  I think he is the one with the goods to win over moderates and independents.  Biden would be if here not such a damaged oaf.
 
Despite Pete's sexual preference?  Just curious.  His 'centrist' position has strong potential appeal for swing voters.

That said, I believe the USA should focus on single payer health care and should increase consumption taxes to finance it.  Starting with excise taxes on dirty fuel which at the federal level have been steadily declining in real terms over the last almost 3 decades.

 
What is it with you and consumption taxes ?  These kinds of taxes hit the poorest and those on fixed incomes the hardest, period.

One of the biggest keys to economic prosperity is low energy costs.  Our, the USA's, energy gets cleaner and cleaner by the day.  New technology keeps coming online regularly.  We are just a couple of breakthroughs away to major energy source changes.  Don't bankrupt the country and prevent the development of these potential breakthroughs from happening due to a lack of financial resources that result from counterproductive artificially high energy costs. 
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Posted: Oct 17, 2019 - 10:55am

What I Learned From the Debate: Democrats Still Can’t Level With Voters About the American Empire
sirdroseph

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Posted: Oct 16, 2019 - 7:56am

 westslope wrote:


 sirdroseph wrote:
If the DNC were smart and they are not, they would throw their weight behind this Pete fellow.  I think he is the one with the goods to win over moderates and independents.  Biden would be if here not such a damaged oaf.
 
Despite Pete's sexual preference?  Just curious.  His 'centrist' position has strong potential appeal for swing voters.

That said, I believe the USA should focus on single payer health care and should increase consumption taxes to finance it.  Starting with excise taxes on dirty fuel which at the federal level have been steadily declining in real terms over the last almost 3 decades.

 
Moderates and independents are imo usually the most sophisticated voters and have absolutely no consideration for or opinion of sexuality, color of skin and so forth.  That is usually the fodder of staunch liberals and conservatives who are obsessed with identity politics.  If you only watched the media and did not actually spend any time amongst real Americans this is a fact that would surprise most outsiders. 

 

As for the second bolded, that is a losing hand in the general right there.

westslope

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Posted: Oct 16, 2019 - 7:52am



 sirdroseph wrote:
If the DNC were smart and they are not, they would throw their weight behind this Pete fellow.  I think he is the one with the goods to win over moderates and independents.  Biden would be if here not such a damaged oaf.
 
Despite Pete's sexual preference?  Just curious.  His 'centrist' position has strong potential appeal for swing voters.

That said, I believe the USA should focus on single payer health care and should increase consumption taxes to finance it.  Starting with excise taxes on dirty fuel which at the federal level have been steadily declining in real terms over the last almost 3 decades.

black321

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Posted: Oct 16, 2019 - 7:50am



 sirdroseph wrote:
If the DNC were smart and they are not, they would throw their weight behind this Pete fellow.  I think he is the one with the goods to win over moderates and independents.  Biden would be if here not such a damaged oaf.
 

I'm not paying too close attention yet, but for the love of all that is good...please, not one of the three grandparents.
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Posted: Oct 16, 2019 - 7:47am

If the DNC were smart and they are not, they would throw their weight behind this Pete fellow.  I think he is the one with the goods to win over moderates and independents.  Biden would be if he were not such a damaged oaf.
Isabeau

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Posted: Sep 27, 2019 - 11:24am



 westslope wrote:


 Isabeau wrote:


 westslope wrote:
Senator Kirsten Gillibrand has withdrawn from the Democratic presidential candidate race.

I guess destroying Senator Al Franken's career did not work out so well for her. 
 
 
Indeed, most women know the difference between goofy grab-ass and real harassment.  


 
Correct me if I am wrong, but I think most women know the difference between a goofy pantomime of a grab-ass and an actual, unsolicited physical grab-ass.

 

Indeed. Thnx for clarification.
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Posted: Sep 27, 2019 - 11:14am

not sure why this guy didn't get more traction

his name came up in a podcast i listen to

i think he might have flipped some turf from red to blue

he's got some appeal and has some experience


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