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kurtster

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Posted: Jul 29, 2020 - 6:07pm

 Steely_D wrote:


 Red_Dragon wrote:


 The party system in this country has completely collapsed as far as I'm concerned. We truly need a revolution.
 

We all want to change the world.
 
Change into what ?  This just happened to be in my in box this morning.

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Posted: Jul 29, 2020 - 5:11pm



 miamizsun wrote:


good ideas only, ok?
 

No parties, publicly-funded elections. For a start.
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Posted: Jul 29, 2020 - 5:09pm

 Red_Dragon wrote:
The party system in this country has completely collapsed as far as I'm concerned. We truly need a revolution.
 

good ideas only, ok?
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Posted: Jul 29, 2020 - 5:04pm



 Red_Dragon wrote:


 The party system in this country has completely collapsed as far as I'm concerned. We truly need a revolution.
 

We all want to change the world.
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Posted: Jul 29, 2020 - 4:31pm



 steeler wrote:

There is no question that both sides of the aisle in the House (and maybe the Senate, too) turn hearings on controversial topics or persons into circuses. I watched the beginning portion of the Barr hearing yesterday and turned it off for that reason. 

 

The party system in this country has completely collapsed as far as I'm concerned. We truly need a revolution.
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Posted: Jul 29, 2020 - 4:29pm



 Steely_D wrote:


 westslope wrote:
Watched a few minutes of Congress grilling big tech CEOs.

Was not impressed with the gotcha tactics and lack of understanding of the economics of "big tech".    Far too much grandstanding.
 

If I have to pick a side, and I suppose I do, then the Dems are less bad than the GOPs. But, honestly, the Dems are so unfocused and clunky and vision-less that it's really hard to get enthusiastic about them as leaders.

They're just better than the GOPs; that's an easy call.
 
There is no question that both sides of the aisle in the House (and maybe the Senate, too) turn hearings on controversial topics or persons into circuses. I watched the beginning portion of the Barr hearing yesterday and turned it off for that reason. 

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Posted: Jul 29, 2020 - 4:10pm



 westslope wrote:
Watched a few minutes of Congress grilling big tech CEOs.

Was not impressed with the gotcha tactics and lack of understanding of the economics of "big tech".    Far too much grandstanding.
 

If I have to pick a side, and I suppose I do, then the Dems are less bad than the GOPs. But, honestly, the Dems are so unfocused and clunky and vision-less that it's really hard to get enthusiastic about them as leaders.

They're just better than the GOPs; that's an easy call.
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Posted: Jul 29, 2020 - 4:00pm

Watched a few minutes of Congress grilling big tech CEOs.

Was not impressed with the gotcha tactics and lack of understanding of the economics of "big tech".    Far too much grandstanding.
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Posted: Apr 21, 2020 - 11:08pm



 haresfur wrote:


 Steely_D wrote:


 black321 wrote:


 Steely_D wrote:


 kcar wrote:


 kurtster wrote:
Your party is more worried about Carbon Footprints than the Pandemic.

That says everything.
 

Even if this were true—and it sure ain't—the Democrats didn't destroy the country like Trump's done. 
 
I’m sure there will be an incredulous response to this: â€not true” and to that I’d suggest that we respond to proof.

Where - objectively - has Trump been a success (for America, not his own or his family’s pockets) that we can measure? Note that it wouldn’t include subjective things like “well, he put more conservative judges on the bench.”

 
His single biggest 'accomplishment' is he cut taxes, which added a modest improvement to economic growth the last two years.  

of, course that added $2t in debt, that could have helped with the crisis.  

oh, the first step act was good. 

others?

 
Crickets...

 

He's building a wall, right?
 

But those gawdemmed beaners are drilling through it!
 
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Posted: Apr 21, 2020 - 3:03pm



 Steely_D wrote:


 black321 wrote:


 Steely_D wrote:


 kcar wrote:


 kurtster wrote:
Your party is more worried about Carbon Footprints than the Pandemic.

That says everything.
 

Even if this were true—and it sure ain't—the Democrats didn't destroy the country like Trump's done. 
 
I’m sure there will be an incredulous response to this: â€not true” and to that I’d suggest that we respond to proof.

Where - objectively - has Trump been a success (for America, not his own or his family’s pockets) that we can measure? Note that it wouldn’t include subjective things like “well, he put more conservative judges on the bench.”

 
His single biggest 'accomplishment' is he cut taxes, which added a modest improvement to economic growth the last two years.  

of, course that added $2t in debt, that could have helped with the crisis.  

oh, the first step act was good. 

others?

 
Crickets...

 

He's building a wall, right?
Steely_D

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Posted: Apr 21, 2020 - 2:42pm



 black321 wrote:


 Steely_D wrote:


 kcar wrote:


 kurtster wrote:
Your party is more worried about Carbon Footprints than the Pandemic.

That says everything.
 

Even if this were true—and it sure ain't—the Democrats didn't destroy the country like Trump's done. 
 
I’m sure there will be an incredulous response to this: â€not true” and to that I’d suggest that we respond to proof.

Where - objectively - has Trump been a success (for America, not his own or his family’s pockets) that we can measure? Note that it wouldn’t include subjective things like “well, he put more conservative judges on the bench.”

 
His single biggest 'accomplishment' is he cut taxes, which added a modest improvement to economic growth the last two years.  

of, course that added $2t in debt, that could have helped with the crisis.  

oh, the first step act was good. 

others?

 
Crickets...

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Posted: Apr 21, 2020 - 10:11am


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Posted: Apr 15, 2020 - 6:16pm



 Steely_D wrote:


 kcar wrote:


 kurtster wrote:
Your party is more worried about Carbon Footprints than the Pandemic.

That says everything.
 

Even if this were true—and it sure ain't—the Democrats didn't destroy the country like Trump's done. 
 
I’m sure there will be an incredulous response to this: â€not true” and to that I’d suggest that we respond to proof.

Where - objectively - has Trump been a success (for America, not his own or his family’s pockets) that we can measure? Note that it wouldn’t include subjective things like “well, he put more conservative judges on the bench.”

 
His single biggest 'accomplishment' is he cut taxes, which added a modest improvement to economic growth the last two years.  

of, course that added $2t in debt, that could have helped with the crisis.  

oh, the first step act was good. 

others?

Steely_D

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Posted: Apr 15, 2020 - 5:26pm



 kcar wrote:


 kurtster wrote:
Your party is more worried about Carbon Footprints than the Pandemic.

That says everything.
 

Even if this were true—and it sure ain't—the Democrats didn't destroy the country like Trump's done. 
 
I’m sure there will be an incredulous response to this: â€not true” and to that I’d suggest that we respond to proof.

Where - objectively - has Trump been a success (for America, not his own or his family’s pockets) that we can measure? Note that it wouldn’t include subjective things like “well, he put more conservative judges on the bench.”

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Posted: Apr 15, 2020 - 5:19pm



 kcar wrote:


 kurtster wrote:
Your party is more worried about Carbon Footprints than the Pandemic.

That says everything.
 

Even if this were true—and it sure ain't—the Democrats didn't destroy the country like Trump's done. 
 
lol  oh my

kcar

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Posted: Apr 15, 2020 - 12:50am



 kurtster wrote:
Your party is more worried about Carbon Footprints than the Pandemic.

That says everything.
 

Even if this were true—and it sure ain't—the Democrats didn't destroy the country like Trump's done. 
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Posted: Apr 14, 2020 - 7:00pm



 Proclivities wrote:


 kurtster wrote:
Your party is more worried about Carbon Footprints than the Pandemic.

That says everything.
 

Andrew Cuomo, Jay Inslee, John Bel Edwards, and Gavin Newsome would be startled to hear of that.  Which members of the party are you speaking of ?  Well, at least the members of both parties agreed on the "Rescue Bill".
 
*bump*

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Posted: Apr 14, 2020 - 7:00pm

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Posted: Apr 9, 2020 - 2:19pm

This assertion about the identity and motives of nonvoters is critical not only to try to bully and coerce people into voting by associating nonvoting with rich, white privilege, but also to suppress any recognition of how widespread the dissatisfaction is for both parties and the political system generally among poor and non-white citizens.

But the problem with this claim is a rather significant one: it is based on the outright, demonstrable falsehood that those who choose not to vote are primarily rich, white and thus privileged, while those who lack those privileges — voters of color and poorer voters — are unwilling to abstain. This is something one can believe only if one’s views of the country and its electorate are shaped by social media and cable news bubbles.

The truth is exactly the opposite. Those who choose not to vote because of dissatisfaction with the choices offered are disproportionately poorer and non-white, while rich whites vote in far larger percentages. And the data also makes clear that the primary motive for nonvoting among those demographic groups is not voter suppression but a belief that election outcomes do not matter because both parties are corrupt or interested only in the lives of the wealthy.

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Posted: Apr 9, 2020 - 1:01pm

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