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Posted: Oct 30, 2021 - 7:34am

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Americans don't need any of that extreme nonsense. Let's stick with the status quo.

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Was it radical to be correct too soon? What gets called the left is often just ahead of the game, when it comes to human rights and environmental justice; the right is often denying the existence of the problem, whether it’s pesticides and toxic waste or domestic violence and child abuse.


Irony:   Freemarket loving economists and legal scholars argue that secure economic property rights are the key to great economic outcomes.  They are correct.  If you must, count me among the Chicago school style property rights economists.

The irony is that the political pressure for better rights typically comes from the so-called left and progressives, not conservative supporters of freemarket capitalism.

Unfortunately, 'conservatives' appear to often find racial, ethnic or other sectarian criteria to deny groups fundamental rights.    The 'right' to kill and take' is more often than not argued by so-called conservatives. The exception would be Neo-Zionist Democrats who support ethnic cleansing terrorism in the Holy Lands.  

On that note, all Americans who should identify as 'terrorists' will be super happy to know that Israel just gave the green light for another illegal settlement of 3,000 JEWS in the West Bank.   You have to admire the willingness of so many Americans to sacrifice the blood and treasure of their own for this glorious exercise in anti-Semitic violence. 

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Posted: Oct 29, 2021 - 11:58am

Americans don't need any of that extreme nonsense. Let's stick with the status quo.

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Posted: Oct 28, 2021 - 9:12am

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both of the major parties have the same basic issues

extremists in their ranks disguised as tasty orwellian political bacon!

it may take them a little time, but the machine will turn them into sausage

bring your own biscuits...


Hmm, i wonder if the GOP does a "better job" embracing the extremists.
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Posted: Oct 28, 2021 - 9:04am

Interesting discussion on the fractures within the democratic party. Most voters want populism, yet there is  the growing interests of the progressive, despite their yet inability to develop a compelling platform for the rest of the country...to fully define the new democratic culture.  I also disagree with his view that Biden being a populist is the reason his poll #s fell. It's because he's an ineffective leader, amidst increasingly divisive MSM.

Democrats are in deep trouble. While the party managed to take full control of government in 2020, Republicans are poised to return to power in Washington soon—beyond the losses that incumbent parties tend to suffer in midterm elections, Democrats are further endangered by the Electoral College’s current skew and the Senate’s worsening malapportionment.

But a biased interpretation of the polls isn’t necessarily a strategically incorrect one; the popularists argue that whatever we think about them and their politics, it is simply true that the Democratic Party needs to spend less time satisfying the whims of college-educated progressives and more time accommodating the voters who actually matter, given the structure of our federal system—the moderates and conservatives the party’s lost to the right. â€œIf you look inside the Democratic Party, there are three times more moderate or conservative nonwhite people than very liberal white people, but very liberal white people are infinitely more represented,” Shor told Klein in his interview. “That’s morally bad, but it also means eventually they’ll leave.”

Yglesias summarized the party’s strategic devolution since. “What’s changed is that Democrats went from being an urban-based diverse party that nonetheless tried pretty hard to pander to the views of rural white people in hopes of getting the votes of the poorer and less-religious among them, to becoming a party that decided it would be unnecessary or immoral to pander like that,”

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Posted: Oct 21, 2021 - 12:47pm

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Otherwise, reading the CSM article, I could not help but be struck by the parallels between the USA and .... Afghanistan.    Chew on that for a bit. 

 
{#Lol}
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Posted: Oct 21, 2021 - 12:44pm

 miamizsun wrote:

both of the major parties have the same basic issues

extremists in their ranks disguised as tasty orwellian political bacon!

it may take them a little time, but the machine will turn them into sausage

bring your own biscuits...
 
They make that sausage bacon stuff now which stands to prove that it's all about packaging, marketing and merchandising. Whether its peeled belly skin or all for one money, You can present something eventually that is irresistible to the masses of pork fans sure to line up for it. Stack it up on a giant cathead and gomp on widdit...

/mustard{#Wink}
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Posted: Oct 21, 2021 - 8:50am

Five military veterans advising Sen. Sinema resign, calling her one of the 'principal obstacles to progress'
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Posted: Oct 15, 2021 - 8:03am

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The Democrats could win rural voters if they promoted comprehensive immigration reforms.  But urban elites are so used to giving away common property that, strictly speaking, does not belong to them that I doubt urban Democrats will see clear on this one.

Otherwise, reading the CSM article, I could not help but be struck by the parallels between the USA and .... Afghanistan.    Chew on that for a bit. 

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Posted: Oct 15, 2021 - 4:16am

 Red_Dragon wrote: 
both of the major parties have the same basic issues

extremists in their ranks disguised as tasty orwellian political bacon!

it may take them a little time, but the machine will turn them into sausage

bring your own biscuits...
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Posted: Oct 14, 2021 - 8:11pm

Why Democrats may be facing a generation in the wilderness
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Posted: Sep 12, 2021 - 3:41pm

A Democrat in name only...
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Posted: Aug 10, 2021 - 4:13pm

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Just wait a few years for him to go all Giuliani 

Wrong oligarchy. He'll go all Elliot Spitzer/Anthony Weiner and be on CNN as a commentator. Later he'll make an abortive run at political office in NYC and be on the boards of several companies making absolute bank, because reasons.
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Posted: Aug 10, 2021 - 3:49pm

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ugh


you heard it here first
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Posted: Aug 10, 2021 - 3:44pm

 haresfur wrote:


Just wait a few years for him to go all Giuliani 


ugh
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Posted: Aug 10, 2021 - 3:42pm

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 What behavior is being demonized? I think he means the behavior that is politically motivated, unfair and untruthful, but then he means the controversy glorifies that behavior.

Or he means all of this demonizes his behavior and well yeah.


Just wait a few years for him to go all Giuliani 
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Posted: Aug 10, 2021 - 3:38pm

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Posted: Aug 10, 2021 - 1:40pm

1) He shouldn't be doing things like this
2) Him, Franken, and others - but not the former guy or so many others that are guilty? 
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Posted: Aug 10, 2021 - 9:54am

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:
"I believe it demonizes behavior that is unsustainable for society," he said.

Um, right? 


Cancel Culture!
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Posted: Aug 10, 2021 - 9:53am

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"I'm a New Yorker, born and bred. I'm a fighter and my instinct is to fight through this controversy because I truly believe it is politically motivated, I believe it is unfair and it is untruthful and I believe it demonizes behavior that is unsustainable for society," he said.

Gee, sound like Trump much?

New Yorkers come in all shapes and sizes but frankly if I was randomly picking Americans to hang with, New Yorkers would figure near the bottom of the list. 





 What behavior is being demonized? I think he means the behavior that is politically motivated, unfair and untruthful, but then he means the controversy glorifies that behavior.

Or he means all of this demonizes his behavior and well yeah.
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