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Isabeau

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Posted: Apr 10, 2025 - 7:54am

 kurtster wrote:
Democrats lit the ‘assassination culture’ fuse — now their silence equals violence
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A new report from the Network Contagion Research Institute found that more than half of left-leaning Americans say political violence is “acceptable” — with 55% of them seeing “some justification” for assassinating Trump.

...

“We are at war,” Rep. LaMonica McIver (D-NJ) shouted in February, as she denounced what she called Trump’s “hostile takeover” of the government he was elected to lead.

“We have to fight in the streets,” said Sen. Chris Van Hollen (D-Md.).

Now, the fuse is lit — and the elected firebrands have nothing to say.

Voters chose Trump, very recently and very specifically, to shake Washington up.

It’s OK to protest, to loudly oppose the changes Trump was elected to make. That’s part of America’s political legacy.

But “assassination culture,” as the lead author of the NCRI report calls the new spike in violent rhetoric, is not.

...
Democrats don’t get a pass on it this time. They set this ball rolling; they own it. Their silence now is encouragement.

You democrats are such nice people.


JANUARY 6, 2020 Where Capitol Police officers were beaten and some dying in the days afterward and you want to lecture Democrats about 'political violence?' 

Then Trump pardoned them.
And what part of 'taking Greenland and the Panama Canal' by force if necessary sounds peaceful to you? Always pointing away from yourself and Trump.
Another Squirrel Fetch. *yawn*  You really oughta try a new schtick, this one's getting old.

Isabeau

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Posted: Apr 10, 2025 - 7:50am

 rgio wrote:

Other than that Mrs. Lincoln, what did you think of the play?

Ignore the abject stupidity and failure in DC that's calling you an idiot by name across this site, and focus on those rowdy, dangerous democrats because they won't speak up about a few comments (says the January 6 crowd)?

It's gone from amusing to sad Kurt.  Get back in there and tell us how the "Great Business Genius" is playing 4D chess....


rgio

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Posted: Apr 10, 2025 - 6:45am

 kurtster wrote:
Other than that Mrs. Lincoln, what did you think of the play?

Ignore the abject stupidity and failure in DC that's calling you an idiot by name across this site, and focus on those rowdy, dangerous democrats because they won't speak up about a few comments (says the January 6 crowd)?

It's gone from amusing to sad Kurt.  Get back in there and tell us how the "Great Business Genius" is playing 4D chess....
kurtster

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Posted: Apr 10, 2025 - 5:25am

Democrats lit the ‘assassination culture’ fuse — now their silence equals violence
.
A new report from the Network Contagion Research Institute found that more than half of left-leaning Americans say political violence is “acceptable” — with 55% of them seeing “some justification” for assassinating Trump.

...

“We are at war,” Rep. LaMonica McIver (D-NJ) shouted in February, as she denounced what she called Trump’s “hostile takeover” of the government he was elected to lead.

“We have to fight in the streets,” said Sen. Chris Van Hollen (D-Md.).

Now, the fuse is lit — and the elected firebrands have nothing to say.

Voters chose Trump, very recently and very specifically, to shake Washington up.

It’s OK to protest, to loudly oppose the changes Trump was elected to make. That’s part of America’s political legacy.

But “assassination culture,” as the lead author of the NCRI report calls the new spike in violent rhetoric, is not.

...
Democrats don’t get a pass on it this time. They set this ball rolling; they own it. Their silence now is encouragement.

You democrats are such nice people.
Red_Dragon

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Posted: Apr 8, 2025 - 3:25pm


VV

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Posted: Apr 4, 2025 - 3:21pm

 islander wrote:


I have no need to tear this apart, you've done it all for me.  You say you want things decided by merit, but you also say you 'want your turn' because 'you've waited in line'.  You're mad at an elitist class making 'arbitrary' decisions but you are fine with an uneducated cabal making decisions based on a loyalty pledge. And then there is the 'rules based order' - dude, really? If you want to be taken seriously (dubious), you'll have to try a little bit. 

Hey, cut the guy a break will ya? He's just dizzy from all the winning!

islander

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Posted: Apr 4, 2025 - 8:28am

 kurtster wrote:

Norway as well as Sweden and Denmark, those Scandinavian countries usually held up to promote the success of Socialism, are all Monarchies.  And all have relatively small, stable and homogenous populations making their Social Welfare states manageable.  Unique to them and not at all applicable to countries such as the US.  My definition above is what happens in the US. The shared misery part.  A ruling elitist class of decision makers who maintain that rights originate with the government and thus are transient as opposed to that the people grant rights to the government based upon rules set in stone that in theory has all equal in regard to rights regardless of wealth or station.  That is we are all entitled to our turn and place in line and that line jumping is not allowed.  I'm sure that you will tear this thought apart as incoherent, but I'm used to it and over it.

Do remember that (and Bernie Sanders readily admits) a welfare society is dependent upon a closed system in order to function properly.  Wide open borders and uncontrolled immigration are destructive to this kind of situation.

ymwv


I have no need to tear this apart, you've done it all for me.  You say you want things decided by merit, but you also say you 'want your turn' because 'you've waited in line'.  You're mad at an elitist class making 'arbitrary' decisions but you are fine with an uneducated cabal making decisions based on a loyalty pledge. And then there is the 'rules based order' - dude, really? If you want to be taken seriously (dubious), you'll have to try a little bit. 
westslope

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Posted: Apr 4, 2025 - 6:19am

kurster:  The key to success of the Nordic social democracies is that they do freemarket capitalism really, really well.  Many argue that property rights are more secure in those countries than the USA.  The socio-economic outcomes are outstanding to the point that it is highly unlikely the USA will ever match them.

Americans should go back to basics such as well-defined economic property rights individual and collective.   The USA should stop using violence to take and steal from people outside of the USA.   The USA should work on the forked tongue reputation otherwise eventually nobody will trust the USA including what once were close allies.

Americans should rethink their disrespect for data, science and expert opinion.  That includes Democratic Party voters too.  Otherwise both Democrats and MAGA Republicans along with others are simply in a race to see who can accelerate the hegemonic decline of the USA the fastest.  

kurtster

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Posted: Apr 4, 2025 - 2:09am

 islander wrote:
 kurtster wrote:

Real world socialism in practice and demonstrated through history is rule by an elite group of decision makers that results in shared misery for all using the lowest common denominator as the baseline.
Yeah, Norway is falling apart. Happy people, good transportation, low cost healthcare, high quality of life. We should be taking over them instead of greenland, they clearly need it more.
 
Norway as well as Sweden and Denmark, those Scandinavian countries usually held up to promote the success of Socialism, are all Monarchies.  And all have relatively small, stable and homogenous populations making their Social Welfare states manageable.  Unique to them and not at all applicable to countries such as the US.  My definition above is what happens in the US. The shared misery part.  A ruling elitist class of decision makers who maintain that rights originate with the government and thus are transient as opposed to that the people grant rights to the government based upon rules set in stone that in theory has all equal in regard to rights regardless of wealth or station.  That is we are all entitled to our turn and place in line and that line jumping is not allowed.  I'm sure that you will tear this thought apart as incoherent, but I'm used to it and over it.

Do remember that (and Bernie Sanders readily admits) a welfare society is dependent upon a closed system in order to function properly.  Wide open borders and uncontrolled immigration are destructive to this kind of situation.

ymwv
Red_Dragon

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Posted: Apr 3, 2025 - 2:56pm

 islander wrote:


Yeah, Norway is falling apart. Happy people, good transportation, low cost healthcare, high quality of life. We should be taking over them instead of Greenland, they clearly need it more.


Yeah, the other Nordic countries with all those other happy people really need our help, too.
islander

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Posted: Apr 3, 2025 - 2:37pm

 kurtster wrote:

Real world socialism in practice and demonstrated through history is rule by an elite group of decision makers that results in shared misery for all using the lowest common denominator as the baseline.


Yeah, Norway is falling apart. Happy people, good transportation, low cost healthcare, high quality of life. We should be taking over them instead of greenland, they clearly need it more.
R_P

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Posted: Apr 3, 2025 - 2:10pm

 kurtster wrote:
Real world socialism in practice and demonstrated through history is rule by an elite group of decision makers that results in shared misery for all using the lowest common denominator as the baseline.


Made in China
black321

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Posted: Apr 3, 2025 - 2:10pm

 kurtster wrote:

Real world socialism in practice and demonstrated through history is rule by an elite group of decision makers that results in shared misery for all using the lowest common denominator as the baseline.


there are a few good examples of socialist democracies, which is what bernie advocates
kurtster

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Posted: Apr 3, 2025 - 1:57pm

 R_P wrote:
Old dog, old tricks. "Kamala is a Kommunist!"
 
Real world socialism in practice and demonstrated through history is rule by an elite group of decision makers that results in shared misery for all using the lowest common denominator as the baseline.
islander

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Posted: Apr 3, 2025 - 1:46pm

 kurtster wrote:

I have no idea wtf you all are talking about regarding what you think I should be doing or saying.

AOC and Crockett along with Bernie are dyed in the wool socialists.  They are storming into the leadership vacuum and will take the party even further to the left and on the wrong side of the 80 / 20 issues.  That they are socialists is what I do not like.  Simple as that.


I made no comment about what you should be thinking or saying. Just a comment that your point was incorrect, but an adjacent, somewhat contrary, point has a lot of merit.

And isn't immigration your hot button? Do you really care that much about socialists? Or is this just the flavor of outrage soda you got for breakfast?
R_P

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Posted: Apr 3, 2025 - 12:07pm

Old dog, old tricks. "Kamala is a Kommunist!"

But muh taxes!
VV

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Posted: Apr 3, 2025 - 11:59am

 kurtster wrote:

I have no idea wtf you all are talking about regarding what you think I should be doing or saying.

AOC and Crockett along with Bernie are dyed in the wool socialists.  They are storming into the leadership vacuum and will take the party even further to the left and on the wrong side of the 80 / 20 issues.  That they are socialists is what I do not like.  Simple as that.

Crockett isn't storming into anything. You find an article about her and now she's "stormimg" into the Democrat leadership vacuum? Give me a break. Besides wtf do you care about the Dems anyway unless of course you are concerned that the direction that Trump is taking this country is going to result in a backlash. Yeah, I guess that must be it.


ScottFromWyoming

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Posted: Apr 3, 2025 - 11:57am

 kurtster wrote:

I have no idea wtf you all are talking about regarding what you think I should be doing or saying.

AOC and Crockett along with Bernie are dyed in the wool socialists.  They are storming into the leadership vacuum and will take the party even further to the left and on the wrong side of the 80 / 20 issues.  That they are socialists is what I do not like.  Simple as that.


lol lol "even further to the left" like they're way out on the edge. They NEED to be further left IMO but they're so far right they can't salvage the Great Society, they can only hope to watch it decay more slowly. 
rgio

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Posted: Apr 3, 2025 - 11:32am

 kurtster wrote:

I have no idea wtf you all are talking about regarding what you think I should be doing or saying.

AOC and Crockett along with Bernie are dyed in the wool socialists.  They are storming into the leadership vacuum and will take the party even further to the left and on the wrong side of the 80 / 20 issues.  That they are socialists is what I do not like.  Simple as that.

You should consider the possibility that your information sources have the far left filling the void that Joe, Hunter, Kamala, and Hillary have created.  It doesn't mean they are going to become the leadership of the party.

While you're here... you're awfully quiet on a day where everyone loses 5% of their portfolio value, everything we buy is about to get more expensive, and we've surrendered every advantage we had in "running the world".

I miss the good ole days when things were cheap and the dollar was strong.... you know... January. 

Steely_D

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Posted: Apr 3, 2025 - 11:32am

 kurtster wrote:

That they are socialists is what I do not like.  Simple as that.


Examples of socialism in America that you seem to be against: 

California-Produced Insulin

Public Water Companies

Public Infrastructure

Fire Protection Services

Public Transportation

Police Departments

Public Parks

Public Schools

Postal Service

Medicare/Medicaid

Social Security

The Military



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