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Posted: Jun 27, 2019 - 11:13am

Just my take (not in ranked order):

Warren: Smart, qualified, passionate about the right issues, fearless. A woman, which I believe we are ready for & need, she could be the one.

Sanders:  Had his moment, missed it. Seems too angry all the time, trigger-happy on dissing the other candidates. Likes to present himself as a non-politician, Independent, meanwhile plays hard-ball politics with the best of them (or worst). Won't commit to being a Democrat but runs in the Democratic race, can't have it both ways, not feeling the burn.

Biden: Also had his moment (twice).  Smart, decent Senator & VP. May be leading early, I predict he'll be dropping soon.

Booker: Smart guy, but not a standout. Can't figure out what he's really about.

Castro: I really like him & his ideas. Finding his voice. Likely to move up in the polls, but probably too early for him, maybe 4-8 years away.

Buttigieg: Interesting he's up near the top. Don't see him staying there, not enough experience. A military veteran. Watch him in the future.

Harris:  Came out on top early, couldn't sustain. Not likely to pick up steam. Not feeling she's being authentic enough.

Klbuchar: Have always like her, great ideas, good communication. Seem stuck in neutral, she needs to make a move soon or will be lost in the crowd.

O/Rourke:  As they say in Texas, all hat & no cattle. Comes off like a side-show barker. Seems to be looking for some bumper sticker that will stick. Nope.

Everyone else:  If I have to Google who you are....enjoy your 15 minutes.
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Posted: Jun 27, 2019 - 11:03am

Omitted third keyword: "nudes" 
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Posted: Jun 27, 2019 - 10:29am



 sirdroseph wrote:
This is interesting.  Looks like this first debate may have at least got people thinking:

 

 








 

I'm amazed that even in Oklahoma there were people unfamiliar with Warren.

Most of this may simply reflect unfamiliarity, rather than genuine political interest (funny that NJ mostly searched "Cory Booker". Does that mean they want to find out if he's the same guy they voted for for Senator of NJ?)
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Posted: Jun 27, 2019 - 8:03am

This is interesting.  Looks like this first debate may have at least got people thinking:

 

 




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Posted: Jun 25, 2019 - 2:36pm



 ScottFromWyoming wrote:


 islander wrote:


 ScottFromWyoming wrote:


 islander wrote:


 black321 wrote:


 steeler wrote:


 black321 wrote:
Sanders free college plan?  Sure, as long as you fund it with a new tax on parents with kids under the age of 18.  Why the hell am I going to pay for your kid when my children and I saved to get them through debt free?  Not to mention the free checks going to universities to continue to ramp-up their pricing.  

The democrats seem to be seriously lost in the woods.  
 

How is that different than adults who have no children  paying taxes that fund public elementary and secondary schooling? Matter of degree? 
 
I understand the point, and yeah, my rant was just that.  If i had paid for their K-12 schooling, it would be the same argument, changing the rules mid-game...  But not everyone needs or should go to college.  Arguably not even all 13 years of public school.   The big question is, why does tuition continue to rise?  The answer is people continue to pay, so schools continue to invest to attract students.  Free tuition is an easy answer that doesn't properly address the question, and is not a "fair" answer.  The cost of tuition will likely only accelerate.  

 
Good point. A friend of mine noted: If you want to make education expensive, make it free for the students.

 

Whattyaknow, another problem that can't be solved with short sentences. :wink:

I suppose the colleges will have to be put on a budget, just like K–12, and some sort of admissions requirement so that kids with no business going to college don't go just for the free daycare. But now we're getting into the area where I say I don't think all kids should be allowed into public schools either.
 

Like maybe we should rethink our entire education system overall?  Modernize the system that originated in the 1800s following a revolutionary war and a shift to industrialism?  But budgets and admissions criteria are certainly not making the talking points, just "more free stuff".   
 
Sure. We're certainly looking for alternatives to the usual routine for at least 50% of our kids. I'm just not ready to abandon the idea that a society improves when it educates its citizens (or keeps them healthy). 

 
I'm with you. I just don't agree that a lot of the routine we call public education does much to educate (or keep healthy).  I think education can be a broad swath of things that can bring happiness, satisfaction, and enough pay to sustain a family. These can include arts and trades which are sorely neglected in our current system.

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Posted: Jun 25, 2019 - 2:34pm

Education thread hi-jack continued......

Economists who have examined free university (college) have generally concluded that most of the benefits of a university education accrue to the student.

Free college education strikes me as a very bad idea.

But more resources to pre-school, primary school and perhaps elementary school?  Absolutely.  There might be a role for government to encourage a German-style apprenticeship program and co-op programs for tech students.  

I would also be in favour of more programs targeted at folks of bottom-end socio-economic status that essentially teach them how to live.  Programs that embrace the notion that poverty is a know-how issue and not a money issue.  

If you want to insist that material resources are still important - fine.  Focus on universal single-payer socialized medical care and do it right this time. 
black321

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Posted: Jun 25, 2019 - 1:23pm



 ScottFromWyoming wrote:

 Sure. We're certainly looking for alternatives to the usual routine for at least 50% of our kids. I'm just not ready to abandon the idea that a society improves when it educates its citizens (or keeps them healthy). 

 

Last comment on this thread jack...Education?  Is that really what college is?  Perhaps attempts to be...but arent they just career mills.  Choose your bucket and off you go...and here's a bunch of other classes we make you take to round you out (yeah, most students just love those classes).  But it seems entry into most careers could be accomplished reading a few books on your own,  coupled with a few focused online and brick & mortar classes/workshops.   Rest of the "rounding" should have been accomplished the prior 13 years, or perhaps a gap year traveling...  Computer science is one area where the system moved away from college degrees...
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Posted: Jun 25, 2019 - 1:00pm



 islander wrote:


 ScottFromWyoming wrote:


 islander wrote:


 black321 wrote:


 steeler wrote:


 black321 wrote:
Sanders free college plan?  Sure, as long as you fund it with a new tax on parents with kids under the age of 18.  Why the hell am I going to pay for your kid when my children and I saved to get them through debt free?  Not to mention the free checks going to universities to continue to ramp-up their pricing.  

The democrats seem to be seriously lost in the woods.  
 

How is that different than adults who have no children  paying taxes that fund public elementary and secondary schooling? Matter of degree? 
 
I understand the point, and yeah, my rant was just that.  If i had paid for their K-12 schooling, it would be the same argument, changing the rules mid-game...  But not everyone needs or should go to college.  Arguably not even all 13 years of public school.   The big question is, why does tuition continue to rise?  The answer is people continue to pay, so schools continue to invest to attract students.  Free tuition is an easy answer that doesn't properly address the question, and is not a "fair" answer.  The cost of tuition will likely only accelerate.  

 
Good point. A friend of mine noted: If you want to make education expensive, make it free for the students.

 

Whattyaknow, another problem that can't be solved with short sentences. :wink:

I suppose the colleges will have to be put on a budget, just like K–12, and some sort of admissions requirement so that kids with no business going to college don't go just for the free daycare. But now we're getting into the area where I say I don't think all kids should be allowed into public schools either.
 

Like maybe we should rethink our entire education system overall?  Modernize the system that originated in the 1800s following a revolutionary war and a shift to industrialism?  But budgets and admissions criteria are certainly not making the talking points, just "more free stuff".   
 
Sure. We're certainly looking for alternatives to the usual routine for at least 50% of our kids. I'm just not ready to abandon the idea that a society improves when it educates its citizens (or keeps them healthy). 

islander

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Posted: Jun 25, 2019 - 12:22pm



 ScottFromWyoming wrote:


 islander wrote:


 black321 wrote:


 steeler wrote:


 black321 wrote:
Sanders free college plan?  Sure, as long as you fund it with a new tax on parents with kids under the age of 18.  Why the hell am I going to pay for your kid when my children and I saved to get them through debt free?  Not to mention the free checks going to universities to continue to ramp-up their pricing.  

The democrats seem to be seriously lost in the woods.  
 

How is that different than adults who have no children  paying taxes that fund public elementary and secondary schooling? Matter of degree? 
 
I understand the point, and yeah, my rant was just that.  If i had paid for their K-12 schooling, it would be the same argument, changing the rules mid-game...  But not everyone needs or should go to college.  Arguably not even all 13 years of public school.   The big question is, why does tuition continue to rise?  The answer is people continue to pay, so schools continue to invest to attract students.  Free tuition is an easy answer that doesn't properly address the question, and is not a "fair" answer.  The cost of tuition will likely only accelerate.  

 
Good point. A friend of mine noted: If you want to make education expensive, make it free for the students.

 

Whattyaknow, another problem that can't be solved with short sentences. :wink:

I suppose the colleges will have to be put on a budget, just like K–12, and some sort of admissions requirement so that kids with no business going to college don't go just for the free daycare. But now we're getting into the area where I say I don't think all kids should be allowed into public schools either.
 

Like maybe we should rethink our entire education system overall?  Modernize the system that originated in the 1800s following a revolutionary war and a shift to industrialism?  But budgets and admissions criteria are certainly not making the talking points, just "more free stuff".   
ScottFromWyoming

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Posted: Jun 25, 2019 - 12:00pm



 islander wrote:


 black321 wrote:


 steeler wrote:


 black321 wrote:
Sanders free college plan?  Sure, as long as you fund it with a new tax on parents with kids under the age of 18.  Why the hell am I going to pay for your kid when my children and I saved to get them through debt free?  Not to mention the free checks going to universities to continue to ramp-up their pricing.  

The democrats seem to be seriously lost in the woods.  
 

How is that different than adults who have no children  paying taxes that fund public elementary and secondary schooling? Matter of degree? 
 
I understand the point, and yeah, my rant was just that.  If i had paid for their K-12 schooling, it would be the same argument, changing the rules mid-game...  But not everyone needs or should go to college.  Arguably not even all 13 years of public school.   The big question is, why does tuition continue to rise?  The answer is people continue to pay, so schools continue to invest to attract students.  Free tuition is an easy answer that doesn't properly address the question, and is not a "fair" answer.  The cost of tuition will likely only accelerate.  

 
Good point. A friend of mine noted: If you want to make education expensive, make it free for the students.

 

Whattyaknow, another problem that can't be solved with short sentences. :wink:

I suppose the colleges will have to be put on a budget, just like K–12, and some sort of admissions requirement so that kids with no business going to college don't go just for the free daycare. But now we're getting into the area where I say I don't think all kids should be allowed into public schools either.
islander

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Posted: Jun 25, 2019 - 10:33am



 black321 wrote:


 steeler wrote:


 black321 wrote:
Sanders free college plan?  Sure, as long as you fund it with a new tax on parents with kids under the age of 18.  Why the hell am I going to pay for your kid when my children and I saved to get them through debt free?  Not to mention the free checks going to universities to continue to ramp-up their pricing.  

The democrats seem to be seriously lost in the woods.  
 

How is that different than adults who have no children  paying taxes that fund public elementary and secondary schooling? Matter of degree? 
 
I understand the point, and yeah, my rant was just that.  If i had paid for their K-12 schooling, it would be the same argument, changing the rules mid-game...  But not everyone needs or should go to college.  Arguably not even all 13 years of public school.   The big question is, why does tuition continue to rise?  The answer is people continue to pay, so schools continue to invest to attract students.  Free tuition is an easy answer that doesn't properly address the question, and is not a "fair" answer.  The cost of tuition will likely only accelerate.  

 
Good point. A friend of mine noted: If you want to make education expensive, make it free for the students.

black321

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Posted: Jun 25, 2019 - 10:21am



 steeler wrote:


 black321 wrote:
Sanders free college plan?  Sure, as long as you fund it with a new tax on parents with kids under the age of 18.  Why the hell am I going to pay for your kid when my children and I saved to get them through debt free?  Not to mention the free checks going to universities to continue to ramp-up their pricing.  

The democrats seem to be seriously lost in the woods.  
 

How is that different than adults who have no children  paying taxes that fund public elementary and secondary schooling? Matter of degree? 
 
I understand the point, and yeah, my rant was just that.  If i had paid for their K-12 schooling, it would be the same argument, changing the rules mid-game...  But not everyone needs or should go to college.  Arguably not even all 13 years of public school.   The big question is, why does tuition continue to rise?  The answer is people continue to pay, so schools continue to invest to attract students.  Free tuition is an easy answer that doesn't properly address the question, and is not a "fair" answer.  The cost of tuition will likely only accelerate.  

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Posted: Jun 25, 2019 - 9:32am



 black321 wrote:
Sanders free college plan?  Sure, as long as you fund it with a new tax on parents with kids under the age of 18.  Why the hell am I going to pay for your kid when my children and I saved to get them through debt free?  Not to mention the free checks going to universities to continue to ramp-up their pricing.  

The democrats seem to be seriously lost in the woods.  
 

How is that different than adults who have no children  paying taxes that fund public elementary and secondary schooling? Matter of degree? 
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Posted: Jun 25, 2019 - 7:31am

 buddy wrote:
Wake me when it's down to 4 candidates.

 
i.e. when the circular firing squad has been reduced.
black321

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Posted: Jun 25, 2019 - 7:30am

Sanders free college plan?  Sure, as long as you fund it with a new tax on parents with kids under the age of 18.  Why the hell am I going to pay for your kid when my children and I saved to get them through debt free?  Not to mention the free checks going to universities to continue to ramp-up their pricing.  

The democrats seem to be seriously lost in the woods.  
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Posted: Jun 22, 2019 - 9:10pm

Wake me when it's down to 4 candidates.
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Posted: Jun 22, 2019 - 4:41pm

What does Biden have in common with Trump? Delusional nostalgia
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Posted: Jun 13, 2019 - 10:06am


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Posted: Apr 18, 2019 - 9:40am



 sirdroseph wrote:
 
Pretty much the same fear-mongering sentiments every Conservative/Neo-Con/Right-Wing  pundit or news vendor has been saying.  Why should Muravchik be any different?  Still, his "evidence" is pretty dodgy: Sanders quotes from 1985, tying Corbin quotes to AOC because she spoke to him on the phone once?  Anyhow, I don't foresee any of them becoming president soon and only one of them is running.
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