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Posted: Jul 24, 2016 - 6:07pm

 Beaker wrote: 
That would be Honorary Chair—so a glorified title for Wasserman.  She has her own re-election to concern her.  But, it can reasonably be inferred, imo, by HRC's choice of Kaine as her VP that she is pivoting  back to the center. Combined with platform and rule changes for the Sandernistas, she feels fine with the situation as her team forecasts it to unfold.  We'll see.


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Posted: Jul 24, 2016 - 4:25pm

 muzik wrote:
Tweets are declaring the WikiLeaks are out of Russia to aid Donald Trump.

So...none of this is true? Those aren't their emails? The Russians made it all up? Trump wrote all 20,000 himself? We should pay it no mind because the wrong people stand to gain?

Yes, the timing of the release is political. And?
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Posted: Jul 24, 2016 - 3:52pm

 Lazy8 wrote:
 muzik wrote:
The difference is that it's meant to blow the wind out of the sails of the democrats.  It's all about perception and tactics.

There wouldn't be an opportunity if the DNC hadn't created it.

If the truth shall kill them, let them die.

 
Tweets are declaring the WikiLeaks are out of Russia to aid Donald Trump.
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Posted: Jul 24, 2016 - 3:48pm

 muzik wrote:
The difference is that it's meant to blow the wind out of the sails of the democrats.  It's all about perception and tactics.

There wouldn't be an opportunity if the DNC hadn't created it.

If the truth shall kill them, let them die.
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Posted: Jul 24, 2016 - 2:28pm

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DNC chair to step down after convention!

:popcorn:

Sacrificed now, my guess, because they didn't want open warfare during the convention.
 

 
Why is Hillary running her over? Didn't she do it herself and is now getting caught? I would think a better analogy would be putting her with the Watergate folks.
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Posted: Jul 24, 2016 - 1:48pm

 Lazy8 wrote:
 muzik wrote:
And mighty convenient for this to all come out a day before the DNC.

What difference, at this point, does it make?

It's not like it's a surprise or anything. The DNC's bias was pretty obvious all along. As was the Republican establishment's—not that it made the slightest difference in that case.

I suppose one could argue that it matters more in a close race. And it will encourage the Sandersnistas to boycott her, possibly seeding a left-wing third (ok, fourth) party movement to turn some of that outrage into better ballot access and a broader political debate.

So I'm gonna go ahead and take it as good news.

 
The difference is that it's meant to blow the wind out of the sails of the democrats.  It's all about perception and tactics.
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Posted: Jul 24, 2016 - 11:20am

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Well, being true, the only real way to use it as a counter weapon is before the DNC - certainly not after.
So you want it in the news, fresh. It has to be now.

And, if it's true, it's another piece of the puzzle that could drive people towards voting not Hillary. Of course, you can vote Not Hillary AND Not Trump. Folks just have to be willing to do that.
And the Not/Not forces have to agree that there can only be one alternate choice. Having Gary Johnson and Jill Stein split the Not/Not vote won't work.

Define "work".

Could it get either of them elected? Of course not. But it could put both of their parties on the ballot in every state they take significant votes in, and it could move either or both of the incumbent parties to adjust their positions to co-opt the votes they couldn't earn this time.
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Posted: Jul 24, 2016 - 10:39am

 muzik wrote:

{#Ask}

 
More simply stated, a fair amount of skepticism pro and con is all you need to ward off  the taffy pulling of political games in the face of real life crisis. Sure, it zaps your energy and saps your assurance, but the truth is subject to blinders only when you choose to wear them...{#Good-vibes}


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Posted: Jul 24, 2016 - 10:34am

 muzik wrote:

{#Ask}

 
Damned spell check.
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Posted: Jul 24, 2016 - 10:29am

 oldviolin wrote:

Inconvenient proof. How banal a concept in predictable derision...

 
{#Ask}
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Posted: Jul 24, 2016 - 10:15am

 Lazy8 wrote:
 muzik wrote:
And mighty convenient for this to all come out a day before the DNC.

What difference, at this point, does it make?

It's not like it's a surprise or anything. The DNC's bias was pretty obvious all along. As was the Republican establishment's—not that it made the slightest difference in that case.

I suppose one could argue that it matters more in a close race. And it will encourage the Sandersnistas to boycott her, possibly seeding a left-wing third (ok, fourth) party movement to turn some of that outrage into better ballot access and a broader political debate.

So I'm gonna go ahead and take it as good news.

 
Inconvenient proof. How banal a concept in predictable derision...
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Posted: Jul 24, 2016 - 10:11am

 muzik wrote:

And mighty convenient for this to all come out a day before the DNC.

 
Well, being true, the only real way to use it as a counter weapon is before the DNC - certainly not after.
So you want it in the news, fresh. It has to be now.

And, if it's true, it's another piece of the puzzle that could drive people towards voting not Hillary. Of course, you can vote Not Hillary AND Not Trump. Folks just have to be willing to do that.
And the Not/Not forces have to agree that there can only be one alternate choice. Having Gary Johnson and Jill Stein split the Not/Not vote won't work. 


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Posted: Jul 24, 2016 - 10:06am

 muzik wrote:
And mighty convenient for this to all come out a day before the DNC.

What difference, at this point, does it make?

It's not like it's a surprise or anything. The DNC's bias was pretty obvious all along. As was the Republican establishment's—not that it made the slightest difference in that case.

I suppose one could argue that it matters more in a close race. And it will encourage the Sandersnistas to boycott her, possibly seeding a left-wing third (ok, fourth) party movement to turn some of that outrage into better ballot access and a broader political debate.

So I'm gonna go ahead and take it as good news.
muzik

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Posted: Jul 24, 2016 - 9:42am

 Red_Dragon wrote: 
And mighty convenient for this to all come out a day before the DNC.
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Posted: Jul 24, 2016 - 9:26am

So, it was true all along...
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Posted: Aug 30, 2011 - 6:29pm

I had a spine once.
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Posted: Aug 30, 2011 - 6:28pm

 

This post apparently contained an image that was dragged into the post editor. Sorry, but any text contained in the post after this point has been lost.
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Posted: Aug 2, 2011 - 10:36pm

Goodness Gracious.

 

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Posted: Aug 2, 2011 - 6:19pm

 kurtster wrote:

Oh, well that gets the Cambridge Police Department off the hook, cuz that was way back when Obama was a student at Haaarvaaard.

 
Yep. And that was when terrorists were still burning their lips on school bus tail pipes, trying to blow them up.

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Posted: Aug 2, 2011 - 6:08pm

 OlderThanDirt wrote:

I don't rightly know. Servo was talking about "current events."
 
Oh, well that gets the Cambridge Police Department off the hook, cuz that was way back when Obama was a student at Haaarvaaard.

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