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Posted: Jan 10, 2019 - 7:21am



 miamizsun wrote:


 R_P wrote:
 Red_Dragon wrote:
I used to subscribe to this nitwit perspective. Jeez.
 
Given the right conditions, people can change...
 

i'd just add that it helps if that change is for the better

swapping one bad belief system for another isn't really an upgrade

be it political or religious

if your philosophical operating system is corrupted with any mythology the result is usually initiating violence, coercion and force against peaceful people that may have a different view

if a person, a group or system will hurt innocent people, even in the name of the greater good, they've simply gone off the rails and lost any and all credibility

peace
 


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Posted: Jan 10, 2019 - 5:17am



 R_P wrote:
 Red_Dragon wrote:
I used to subscribe to this nitwit perspective. Jeez.
 
Given the right conditions, people can change...
 

i'd just add that it helps if that change is for the better

swapping one bad belief system for another isn't really an upgrade

be it political or religious

if your philosophical operating system is corrupted with any mythology the result is usually initiating violence, coercion and force against peaceful people that may have a different view

if a person, a group or system will hurt innocent people, even in the name of the greater good, they've simply gone off the rails and lost any and all credibility

peace
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Posted: Jan 9, 2019 - 7:21pm

 Red_Dragon wrote:
I used to subscribe to this nitwit perspective. Jeez.
 
Given the right conditions, people can change...
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Posted: Jan 9, 2019 - 4:27pm

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U.S. Constitution ‘Requires a Christian People,’ Says Dominionist, and Liberals Can’t be Christian
“Christians Must Be Conservative, And Conservatives Must Be Christian” is the headline of an article by P. Andrew Sandlin that was published in December on the Sovereign Nations website and promoted on the group’s Facebook page on Monday.

Sovereign Nations, “a media site dedicated to the preservation of national sovereignty,” describes its purpose as “a prolegomenon to the formation of a new, and not just sentimental, conservative and Constitutional Republic.” (Oxford defines prolegomenon as a “critical or discursive introduction to a book.”) It was seemingly created to challenge “the ideas and concepts” that guide the work of the Open Society Foundations, which were founded by George Soros, a favorite target of right-wing leaders.

Sovereign Nations’ founder Mark O’Halloran was a co-creator and original signer of a statement signed by more than 3,000 evangelical individuals and groups last year branding “social justice” as a threat to the gospel. Sovereign Nations has also played host to Jordan B. Peterson, a viral conservative pseudo-philosopher who achieved stardom by pairing conservative messages and conspiracy theories with generic self-help advice aimed at young men.

Sandlin, the article’s author, is founder and president of the Center for Cultural Leadership, which equips “Christian transformationists” to “transform culture.” Sandlin is a former executive vice president of the Chalcedon Foundation, which was founded by Christian Reconstructionist R.J. Rushdoony, whose thinking has influenced many contemporary Religious Right leaders. Sandlin promotes his ideas through writing and podcasts. The Gospel Coalition’s online “resource library” includes links to 11 Sandlin publications.

Sandlin is also, according to his website, faculty for the Blackstone Legal Fellowship of the Alliance Defending Freedom, the global Religious Right legal giant. The goal of the Blackstone program, ADF once declared publicly, is to “recover the robust Christendomic theolo­gy of the 3rd, 4th, and 5th centuries.” (...)


 
I used to subscribe to this nitwit perspective. Jeez.
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Posted: Jan 9, 2019 - 2:50pm

miamizsun wrote:
"It’s strange that some Christians want to be libertarians when the very guiding principle for libertarians is what we know to be sin."


that hurts sort of...

Only if you care what he thinks.
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Posted: Jan 9, 2019 - 2:20pm

 R_P wrote:
U.S. Constitution ‘Requires a Christian People,’ Says Dominionist, and Liberals Can’t be Christian
“Christians Must Be Conservative, And Conservatives Must Be Christian” is the headline of an article by P. Andrew Sandlin that was published in December on the Sovereign Nations website and promoted on the group’s Facebook page on Monday.

Sovereign Nations, “a media site dedicated to the preservation of national sovereignty,” describes its purpose as “a prolegomenon to the formation of a new, and not just sentimental, conservative and Constitutional Republic.” (Oxford defines prolegomenon as a “critical or discursive introduction to a book.”) It was seemingly created to challenge “the ideas and concepts” that guide the work of the Open Society Foundations, which were founded by George Soros, a favorite target of right-wing leaders.

Sovereign Nations’ founder Mark O’Halloran was a co-creator and original signer of a statement signed by more than 3,000 evangelical individuals and groups last year branding “social justice” as a threat to the gospel. Sovereign Nations has also played host to Jordan B. Peterson, a viral conservative pseudo-philosopher who achieved stardom by pairing conservative messages and conspiracy theories with generic self-help advice aimed at young men.

Sandlin, the article’s author, is founder and president of the Center for Cultural Leadership, which equips “Christian transformationists” to “transform culture.” Sandlin is a former executive vice president of the Chalcedon Foundation, which was founded by Christian Reconstructionist R.J. Rushdoony, whose thinking has influenced many contemporary Religious Right leaders. Sandlin promotes his ideas through writing and podcasts. The Gospel Coalition’s online “resource library” includes links to 11 Sandlin publications.

Sandlin is also, according to his website, faculty for the Blackstone Legal Fellowship of the Alliance Defending Freedom, the global Religious Right legal giant. The goal of the Blackstone program, ADF once declared publicly, is to “recover the robust Christendomic theolo­gy of the 3rd, 4th, and 5th centuries.” (...)


 


"It’s strange that some Christians want to be libertarians when the very guiding principle for libertarians is what we know to be sin."


that hurts sort of...



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Posted: Jan 9, 2019 - 1:46pm

U.S. Constitution ‘Requires a Christian People,’ Says Dominionist, and Liberals Can’t be Christian
“Christians Must Be Conservative, And Conservatives Must Be Christian” is the headline of an article by P. Andrew Sandlin that was published in December on the Sovereign Nations website and promoted on the group’s Facebook page on Monday.

Sovereign Nations, “a media site dedicated to the preservation of national sovereignty,” describes its purpose as “a prolegomenon to the formation of a new, and not just sentimental, conservative and Constitutional Republic.” (Oxford defines prolegomenon as a “critical or discursive introduction to a book.”) It was seemingly created to challenge “the ideas and concepts” that guide the work of the Open Society Foundations, which were founded by George Soros, a favorite target of right-wing leaders.

Sovereign Nations’ founder Mark O’Halloran was a co-creator and original signer of a statement signed by more than 3,000 evangelical individuals and groups last year branding “social justice” as a threat to the gospel. Sovereign Nations has also played host to Jordan B. Peterson, a viral conservative pseudo-philosopher who achieved stardom by pairing conservative messages and conspiracy theories with generic self-help advice aimed at young men.

Sandlin, the article’s author, is founder and president of the Center for Cultural Leadership, which equips “Christian transformationists” to “transform culture.” Sandlin is a former executive vice president of the Chalcedon Foundation, which was founded by Christian Reconstructionist R.J. Rushdoony, whose thinking has influenced many contemporary Religious Right leaders. Sandlin promotes his ideas through writing and podcasts. The Gospel Coalition’s online “resource library” includes links to 11 Sandlin publications.

Sandlin is also, according to his website, faculty for the Blackstone Legal Fellowship of the Alliance Defending Freedom, the global Religious Right legal giant. The goal of the Blackstone program, ADF once declared publicly, is to “recover the robust Christendomic theolo­gy of the 3rd, 4th, and 5th centuries.” (...)

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Posted: Jan 8, 2019 - 9:11am

Smartphone users warned to be careful of the Antichrist

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Posted: Jan 7, 2019 - 7:11am

Heavily Abridged ‘Slave Bible’ Removed Passages That Might Encourage Uprisings
When 19th-century British missionaries arrived in the Caribbean to convert enslaved Africans, they came armed with a heavily edited version of the Bible. Any passage that might incite rebellion was removed; gone, for instance, were references to the exodus of enslaved Israelites from Egypt. Today, just three copies of the so-called “Slave Bible” are known to exist. Two are held in the United Kingdom, and one is  currently on view at the Museum of the Bible in Washington, D.C., Michel Martin reports for NPR.

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Posted: Jan 5, 2019 - 2:58pm

Why Trump Reigns as King Cyrus
The Christian right doesn’t like the president only for his judges. They like his style.
As the Trump presidency falls under siege on multiple fronts, it has become increasingly clear that the so-called values voters will be among the last to leave the citadel. A lot of attention has been paid to the supposed paradox of evangelicals backing such an imperfect man, but the real problem is that our idea of Christian nationalism hasn’t caught up with the reality. We still buy the line that the hard core of the Christian right is just an interest group working to protect its values. But what we don’t get is that Mr. Trump’s supposedly anti-Christian attributes and anti-democratic attributes are a vital part of his attraction.

Today’s Christian nationalists talk a good game about respecting the Constitution and America’s founders, but at bottom they sound as if they prefer autocrats to democrats. In fact, what they really want is a king. “It is God that raises up a king,” according to Paula White, a prosperity gospel preacher who has advised Mr. Trump.

Ralph Drollinger, who has led weekly Bible study groups in the White House attended by Vice President Mike Pence and many other cabinet members, likes the word “king” so much that he frequently turns it into a verb. “Get ready to king in our future lives,” he tells his followers. “Christian believers will — soon, I hope — become the consummate, perfect governing authorities!”

The great thing about kings like Cyrus, as far as today’s Christian nationalists are concerned, is that they don’t have to follow rules. They are the law. This makes them ideal leaders in paranoid times.

“When are they going to start rolling out the boxcars to start hauling off Christians?” Tony Perkins, the president of the Family Research Council, asked in 2016. If you’re hearing those boxcars pulling up in the distance, as it were, you don’t merely overlook the antisocial qualities of a prospective leader, you embrace them as virtues.

Mr. Trump himself well understands this longing for the hard hand of the despot. “If you don’t mind me saying so, you’ve gotten soft,” he told Mr. Wallnau and other evangelical leaders during the 2016 campaign — much to their delight.

Another important thing to understand about Cyrus is that he is not a queen. In the Christian nationalist world, legitimate political power is largely male power. Mr. Drollinger insists that the Bible describes only “male leadership.”

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Posted: Jan 2, 2019 - 1:15pm

A stultified imagination...
Jerry Falwell Jr. can’t imagine Trump ‘doing anything that’s not good for the country’
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Posted: Dec 17, 2018 - 4:09pm

Race, not abortion, was the founding issue of the religious right
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Posted: Dec 12, 2018 - 4:14pm

Commandment 7, Sisters...
Two nuns admit embezzling school funds for Las Vegas gambling trips
He said parents knew the nuns went on gambling trips but the sisters claimed a wealthy uncle funded them. “These nuns took a vow of poverty and said, ‘Oh, no, we’ve got a rich uncle,’ ” said Alexander. “The rich uncle was the parents of the St James students.”

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Posted: Nov 21, 2018 - 6:48pm

U.S. Missionary Killed By Remote Island Tribe He Wanted To Convert To Christianity
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Posted: Nov 3, 2018 - 12:23pm

Most White Evangelicals Say Immigration, Increasing Racial Diversity Harms America
While a majority of all other religious demographics have unfavorable views of President Donald Trump, 68 percent of white evangelicals hold a favorable view of the Republican president. Meanwhile, 80 percent of black Protestants, 75 percent of religiously unaffiliated, 74 percent of Hispanic Catholics, 73 percent of non-Christian religious Americans, 52 percent of white mainline Protestants and white Catholics hold a negative opinion of Trump.

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Posted: Nov 1, 2018 - 2:44pm

Spokane GOP leader authors 'Biblical Basis for War' manifesto calling for end to abortion, same-sex marriage and death of enemies who disagree
A Washington state GOP politician is facing fallout after he authored a “Biblical Basis for War” manifesto that allegedly calls for a post-apocalypse theocracy with no abortion or same-sex marriage.

Matt Shea, a four-term rep from Spokane who wants the eastern half of Washington to join a 51st state called Liberty, recently admitted in a Facebook Live video that he created the document.

The four-page document, leaked online by Spokane resident Tanner Rowe, includes multiple biblical citations and says vanquished enemies must “stop all abortions,” disavow Communism, prohibit same-sex marriage and “obey Biblical law.”

“If they do not yield – kill all males,” the document reads.

“This document is not a sermon, this is a ‘how to’ manual for what they plan to do if there’s ever civil war or a government collapse. These people are focused on the apocalypse. And quite frankly, they’re happy to push that into happening,” Spokane County Sheriff Ozzie Knezovich told the Daily News. The sheriff said he received a copy of the manifesto two months ago and forwarded it to the FBI for investigation.

He said the document was leaked by people in Shea’s inner-circle who believe his leadership is causing division and a “dangerous situation.”

“I had this document for 2 ½ months and no one heard a word out of me because I didn’t want to interfere with the investigation. These are people in Shea’s security wing who broke it during the election cycle. They’re afraid he’ll be re-elected,” Knezovich said.

The sheriff said that based on the manifesto and local sources, he believes Shea is pushing ideologies from the Aryan and American Redoubt movements.

“The endgame is the same as the map of the Redoubt movement, the same as the white supremacy map in the 1990s. They want to make a white homeland,” the sheriff said.

“They want to have a theocracy, and if you don’t find their ideology or makeup, you’re not going to do too well in this state,” he said. (...)

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Posted: Oct 25, 2018 - 6:40pm

More fuel please...
Rick Wiles Warns That if Democrats Gain Power, They Will Slaughter Christians by the Thousands
“This Marxist-communist Antichrist revolution that is in full bloom in the United States of America, this thing is anti-Christian,” Wiles said. “They hate God. These people are against God. These people love to abort babies. They love to promote sexual immorality. Everything that drives them is in opposition to God and his moral laws. That is the centerpiece of their agenda.”

“Every nation that has been taken over by Marxist-communists, they immediately kill the pastors,” he warned. “They immediately kill Christians. They immediately burn the churches. Why? Because the cross is their enemy. Do not be fooled by what’s happening in America. The anarchists in America, their enemy is not the Republican Party. Their enemy isn’t corporations. Their enemy is the church. They’re coming against the church and I’ve been warning people for years and years and years—you better get ready, you better be prepared, if these people ever get power, they’re going to slaughter tens of thousands of pastors, tens of thousands of Christians.”

“They will spill blood in America,” Wiles added. “That is their purpose. That is their objective.”
cf.
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Posted: Oct 20, 2018 - 1:02pm

Religious conservatives lead the nation in search for porn
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Posted: Oct 18, 2018 - 2:22pm

Blessed are the arms dealers...

Shut up and take their money.
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