[ ]   [ ]   [ ]                        [ ]      [ ]   [ ]

Counting with Pictures - ScottN - Jun 2, 2023 - 8:28pm
 
Trump - Steely_D - Jun 2, 2023 - 8:16pm
 
Song of the Day - Manbird - Jun 2, 2023 - 6:26pm
 
Wordle - daily game - Manbird - Jun 2, 2023 - 6:07pm
 
Puzzle it - oldviolin - Jun 2, 2023 - 2:04pm
 
Talk Behind Their Backs Forum - VV - Jun 2, 2023 - 1:41pm
 
Fascism In America - R_P - Jun 2, 2023 - 1:24pm
 
(Big) Media Watch - R_P - Jun 2, 2023 - 12:43pm
 
China - R_P - Jun 2, 2023 - 12:26pm
 
What Makes You Laugh? - kcar - Jun 2, 2023 - 12:00pm
 
Musky Mythology - Proclivities - Jun 2, 2023 - 11:50am
 
Climate Change - R_P - Jun 2, 2023 - 11:09am
 
Name My Band - oldviolin - Jun 2, 2023 - 11:05am
 
Ukraine - KurtfromLaQuinta - Jun 2, 2023 - 10:53am
 
TWO WORDS - oldviolin - Jun 2, 2023 - 9:53am
 
ONE WORD - oldviolin - Jun 2, 2023 - 9:51am
 
Country Up The Bumpkin - oldviolin - Jun 2, 2023 - 9:21am
 
Things You Thought Today - oldviolin - Jun 2, 2023 - 9:12am
 
What Makes You Cry :) ? - Beez - Jun 2, 2023 - 9:00am
 
Bad Poetry - oldviolin - Jun 2, 2023 - 8:39am
 
Allergies ( aka pollen hell) - black321 - Jun 2, 2023 - 8:02am
 
Radio Paradise Comments - lily34 - Jun 2, 2023 - 7:09am
 
Food Democracy - Proclivities - Jun 2, 2023 - 6:23am
 
Canada - westslope - Jun 2, 2023 - 12:57am
 
Rock mix no longer available in Denmark - klausf - Jun 1, 2023 - 11:37pm
 
Dialing 1-800-Manbird - oldviolin - Jun 1, 2023 - 9:00pm
 
THREE WORDS - oldviolin - Jun 1, 2023 - 8:52pm
 
• • • The Once-a-Day • • •  - oldviolin - Jun 1, 2023 - 8:33pm
 
RightWingNutZ - R_P - Jun 1, 2023 - 4:32pm
 
Republican Wingnut Freak of the Day - Red_Dragon - Jun 1, 2023 - 3:56pm
 
Artificial Intelligence - R_P - Jun 1, 2023 - 12:38pm
 
Pernicious Pious Proclivities Particularized Prodigiously - R_P - Jun 1, 2023 - 10:56am
 
Today in History - Red_Dragon - Jun 1, 2023 - 6:16am
 
Come join us in Eureka! - lily34 - Jun 1, 2023 - 5:10am
 
RP in a Tesla EV - miamizsun - Jun 1, 2023 - 4:37am
 
USA! USA! USA! - R_P - May 31, 2023 - 4:49pm
 
FOUR WORDS - Red_Dragon - May 31, 2023 - 4:28pm
 
21 - ScottFromWyoming - May 31, 2023 - 2:27pm
 
Get the Quote - thisbody - May 31, 2023 - 7:53am
 
Mixtape Culture Club - miamizsun - May 31, 2023 - 7:24am
 
Russia - westslope - May 31, 2023 - 6:56am
 
Outstanding Covers - Steely_D - May 30, 2023 - 9:35am
 
Bug Reports & Feature Requests - renaultr17 - May 29, 2023 - 9:50pm
 
What Did You Do Today? - KurtfromLaQuinta - May 29, 2023 - 4:52pm
 
Helpful emergency signs - Proclivities - May 29, 2023 - 7:14am
 
Eversolo DMP-A6 streamer and RP? - William - May 28, 2023 - 8:36pm
 
MQA in administration - William - May 28, 2023 - 8:27pm
 
Stream stopping at promo - William - May 28, 2023 - 8:18pm
 
What's your favorite quote? - maryte - May 28, 2023 - 9:12am
 
Ask for a tea - DaveInSaoMiguel - May 28, 2023 - 3:29am
 
Graphic designers, ho's! - Manbird - May 27, 2023 - 5:43pm
 
Lyrics that are stuck in your head today... - ScottN - May 27, 2023 - 5:28pm
 
Animal Resistance - Red_Dragon - May 27, 2023 - 7:46am
 
Little known information...maybe even facts - miamizsun - May 27, 2023 - 7:24am
 
Guns - Red_Dragon - May 27, 2023 - 6:57am
 
You're welcome, manbird. - Bill_J - May 26, 2023 - 6:00pm
 
In My Room - KurtfromLaQuinta - May 26, 2023 - 4:17pm
 
The Lincoln quote ... wasn't from Lincoln - Proclivities - May 26, 2023 - 1:19pm
 
Live Music - Steely_D - May 26, 2023 - 10:51am
 
It seemed like a good idea at the time - Red_Dragon - May 26, 2023 - 10:35am
 
Nuclear power - saviour or scourge? - miamizsun - May 26, 2023 - 8:31am
 
A Picture paints a thousand words - Proclivities - May 26, 2023 - 8:00am
 
The Daily complaint forum, Please complain or be Happy - sunybuny - May 26, 2023 - 7:08am
 
Gas or Electric? - ColdMiser - May 26, 2023 - 6:19am
 
Need help - anyone got a copy of Aristotle's Politics? - lily34 - May 26, 2023 - 5:48am
 
Republican Party - westslope - May 26, 2023 - 2:30am
 
Word Association - temporary - oldviolin - May 25, 2023 - 1:34pm
 
Florida - R_P - May 25, 2023 - 11:22am
 
What's playing - lily34 - May 25, 2023 - 9:17am
 
• • • BRING OUT YOUR DEAD • • •  - oldviolin - May 25, 2023 - 9:15am
 
What the hell OV? - oldviolin - May 25, 2023 - 9:03am
 
Happy Birthday! - lily34 - May 25, 2023 - 8:40am
 
NASA & other news from space - miamizsun - May 25, 2023 - 7:51am
 
The Obituary Page - lily34 - May 25, 2023 - 5:17am
 
What Are You Grateful For? - Antigone - May 24, 2023 - 4:06pm
 
Index » Regional/Local » Europe » Ukraine Page: Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5 ... 88, 89, 90  Next
Post to this Topic
NoEnzLefttoSplit

NoEnzLefttoSplit Avatar

Gender: Male


Posted: Mar 25, 2023 - 2:26pm

 R_P wrote:
Stolen Valor: The U.S. Volunteers in Ukraine Who Lie, Waste and Bicker
People who would not be allowed anywhere near the battlefield in a U.S.-led war are active on the Ukrainian front, with ready access to American weapons.
Senior neo-Nazi slips out of Australia to fight Russian army


yep, there's been some dodgy stuff happening among some of the international volunteers. That is true. 
R_P

R_P Avatar



Posted: Mar 25, 2023 - 2:12pm

Stolen Valor: The U.S. Volunteers in Ukraine Who Lie, Waste and Bicker
People who would not be allowed anywhere near the battlefield in a U.S.-led war are active on the Ukrainian front, with ready access to American weapons.
Senior neo-Nazi slips out of Australia to fight Russian army
westslope

westslope Avatar

Location: BC sage brush steppe


Posted: Mar 24, 2023 - 6:35pm

 thisbody wrote:
China's success in brokering a deal between Iran and Saudia Arabia does not translate into China's ability to do the same between Ukraine and Russia.

That said, I am open to multiple parties helping to broker a deal:

- the French, 
- the Turkish
- Israel (of all countries....)
- Norway (but let's not forget that Norway brokered the failed Oslo Peace Accords)

This civil war-like proxy conflict should never have happened.

US hegemony is already taking a hit and if this conflict drags and drags, US hegemony will continue to 'take a hit'.

Please note, I am not Jeffrey Sachs.  I view hegemony as a good thing.  Canada, Norway and other rich western countries have a vested interest in a strong USA.

thisbody

thisbody Avatar

Location: Nose Hill
Gender: Male


Posted: Mar 24, 2023 - 5:27pm

Why Ukraine may embrace China’s peace plan
R_P

R_P Avatar



Posted: Mar 24, 2023 - 12:10pm

Ukraine On The Backfoot; Russia Is ‘Winning’ The Bloody Battle Like How North Swept The American Civil War
Red_Dragon

Red_Dragon Avatar

Location: Dumbf*ckistan


Posted: Mar 12, 2023 - 2:54pm

 R_P wrote:
Ukraine’s Death by Proxy (Hedges)
Ukraine is a pawn for militarists intent on degrading Russia and ultimately China in a self-defeating quest to ensure U.S. global hegemony. The end of this war, like most proxy wars, will be ugly.
There are many ways for a state to project power and weaken adversaries, but proxy wars are one of the most cynical. Proxy wars devour the countries they purport to defend. They entice nations or insurgents to fight for geopolitical goals that are ultimately not in their interest. The war in Ukraine has little to do with Ukrainian freedom and a lot to do with degrading the Russian military and weakening Vladimir Putin’s grip on power. And when Ukraine looks headed for defeat, or the war reaches a stalemate, Ukraine will be sacrificed like many other states, in what one of the founding members of the CIA, Miles Copeland Jr., referred to as the “Game of Nations” and “the amorality of power politics.”

I covered proxy wars in my two decades as a foreign correspondent, including in Central America where the U.S. armed the military regimes in El Salvador and Guatemala and Contra insurgents attempting to overthrow the Sandinista government in Nicaragua. I reported on the insurgency in the Punjab, a proxy war fomented by Pakistan. I covered the Kurds in northern Iraq, backed and then betrayed more than once by Iran and Washington. During my time in the Middle East, Iraq provided weapons and support to the Mujahedeen-e-Khalq (MEK) to destabilize Iran. Belgrade, when I was in the former Yugoslavia, thought by arming Bosnian and Croatian Serbs, it could absorb Bosnia and parts of Croatia into a greater Serbia.

Proxy wars are notoriously hard to control, especially when the aspirations of those doing the fighting and those sending the weapons diverge. They also have a bad habit of luring sponsors of proxy wars, as happened to the U.S. in Vietnam and Israel in Lebanon, directly into the conflict. Proxy armies are given weaponry with little accountability, significant amounts of which end up on the black market or in the hands of warlords or terrorists. CBS News reported last year that around 30 percent of the weapons sent to Ukraine make it to the front lines, a report it chose to partially retract under heavy pressure from Kyiv and Washington. The widespread diversion of donated military and medical equipment to the black market in Ukraine was also documented by U.S. journalist Lindsey Snell. Weapons in war zones are lucrative commodities. There were always large quantities for sale in the wars I covered.

Warlords, gangsters and thugs — Ukraine has long been considered one of the most corrupt countries in Europe — are transformed by sponsor states into heroic freedom fighters. Support for those fighting these proxy wars is a celebration of our supposed national virtue, especially seductive after two decades of military fiascos in the Middle East. Joe Biden, with dismal poll numbers, intends to run for a second term as a “wartime” president who stands with Ukraine, to which the U.S. has already committed $113 billion in military, economic and humanitarian assistance.

When Russia invaded Ukraine “(t)he whole world faced a test for the ages,” Biden said after a lightning visit to Kyiv. “Europe was being tested. America was being tested. NATO was being tested. All democracies were being tested.”

I heard similar sentiments expressed to justify other proxy wars.(...)



So, Richard, what would you have done for/in Ukraine? No links, just your perspective.
R_P

R_P Avatar



Posted: Mar 12, 2023 - 2:00pm

Ukraine’s Death by Proxy (Hedges)
Ukraine is a pawn for militarists intent on degrading Russia and ultimately China in a self-defeating quest to ensure U.S. global hegemony. The end of this war, like most proxy wars, will be ugly.
There are many ways for a state to project power and weaken adversaries, but proxy wars are one of the most cynical. Proxy wars devour the countries they purport to defend. They entice nations or insurgents to fight for geopolitical goals that are ultimately not in their interest. The war in Ukraine has little to do with Ukrainian freedom and a lot to do with degrading the Russian military and weakening Vladimir Putin’s grip on power. And when Ukraine looks headed for defeat, or the war reaches a stalemate, Ukraine will be sacrificed like many other states, in what one of the founding members of the CIA, Miles Copeland Jr., referred to as the “Game of Nations” and “the amorality of power politics.”

I covered proxy wars in my two decades as a foreign correspondent, including in Central America where the U.S. armed the military regimes in El Salvador and Guatemala and Contra insurgents attempting to overthrow the Sandinista government in Nicaragua. I reported on the insurgency in the Punjab, a proxy war fomented by Pakistan. I covered the Kurds in northern Iraq, backed and then betrayed more than once by Iran and Washington. During my time in the Middle East, Iraq provided weapons and support to the Mujahedeen-e-Khalq (MEK) to destabilize Iran. Belgrade, when I was in the former Yugoslavia, thought by arming Bosnian and Croatian Serbs, it could absorb Bosnia and parts of Croatia into a greater Serbia.

Proxy wars are notoriously hard to control, especially when the aspirations of those doing the fighting and those sending the weapons diverge. They also have a bad habit of luring sponsors of proxy wars, as happened to the U.S. in Vietnam and Israel in Lebanon, directly into the conflict. Proxy armies are given weaponry with little accountability, significant amounts of which end up on the black market or in the hands of warlords or terrorists. CBS News reported last year that around 30 percent of the weapons sent to Ukraine make it to the front lines, a report it chose to partially retract under heavy pressure from Kyiv and Washington. The widespread diversion of donated military and medical equipment to the black market in Ukraine was also documented by U.S. journalist Lindsey Snell. Weapons in war zones are lucrative commodities. There were always large quantities for sale in the wars I covered.

Warlords, gangsters and thugs — Ukraine has long been considered one of the most corrupt countries in Europe — are transformed by sponsor states into heroic freedom fighters. Support for those fighting these proxy wars is a celebration of our supposed national virtue, especially seductive after two decades of military fiascos in the Middle East. Joe Biden, with dismal poll numbers, intends to run for a second term as a “wartime” president who stands with Ukraine, to which the U.S. has already committed $113 billion in military, economic and humanitarian assistance.

When Russia invaded Ukraine “(t)he whole world faced a test for the ages,” Biden said after a lightning visit to Kyiv. “Europe was being tested. America was being tested. NATO was being tested. All democracies were being tested.”

I heard similar sentiments expressed to justify other proxy wars.(...)

NoEnzLefttoSplit

NoEnzLefttoSplit Avatar

Gender: Male


Posted: Mar 11, 2023 - 11:06pm

 R_P wrote:
"the author is plainly not pro-Russian or pro-Yanukovych"




R_P

R_P Avatar



Posted: Mar 11, 2023 - 12:57pm


R_P

R_P Avatar



Posted: Mar 7, 2023 - 1:39pm

The Conversation About Ukraine Is Cracking Apart (Walt)
What government officials are saying in public, and private, is fascinating—and full of contradictions.
R_P

R_P Avatar



Posted: Mar 5, 2023 - 3:20pm

They’re lobbying for Ukraine pro bono – and making millions from arms firms 
Red_Dragon

Red_Dragon Avatar

Location: Dumbf*ckistan


Posted: Feb 23, 2023 - 7:03am

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:


Ukraine

The secret diary of a Ukrainian soldier: death and drones on the eastern front

He had never been to war before. Then he was sent to defend Bakhmut from the Russians

{{register for a free account to read it}}






ScottFromWyoming

ScottFromWyoming Avatar

Location: Powell
Gender: Male


Posted: Feb 22, 2023 - 8:34pm


Ukraine

The secret diary of a Ukrainian soldier: death and drones on the eastern front

He had never been to war before. Then he was sent to defend Bakhmut from the Russians

{{register for a free account to read it}}


VV

VV Avatar

Gender: Male


Posted: Feb 21, 2023 - 1:16pm

In short: The only thing more f*cked up than the Russian Army was Trump's presidency.
 
...and that's a low bar.

Russian Troops Film Appeal to Putin: 'We Do Not Know Who Our Commander Is'

Russian Soldiers Accidentally Blow Themselves Up Using Cooking Stove—Report

Moe, Larry & Curley would be proud...
Red_Dragon

Red_Dragon Avatar

Location: Dumbf*ckistan


Posted: Feb 20, 2023 - 5:33pm

Alina
VV

VV Avatar

Gender: Male


Posted: Feb 16, 2023 - 4:12pm

Those nutty Russians are falling out of buildings again...
 
Who knew that a nation could be so full of people prone to losing their balance in high elevations?
R_P

R_P Avatar



Posted: Feb 15, 2023 - 2:43pm

 Lazy8 wrote:
Best numbers I can find are from Estonia. It's easy to find out how many Ukrainians have taken shelter in various countries, harder to get information about which borders they crossed to get there. The article I linked to is almost a year old, numbers are probably much higher by now, but as of May last year 20K Ukrainians had crossed from Russia. Estonia has about 60K Ukrainian refugees in residence now.

Indeed. 60K is about right.
Lazy8

Lazy8 Avatar

Location: The Gallatin Valley of Montana
Gender: Male


Posted: Feb 15, 2023 - 2:30pm

 R_P wrote:
I guess you must have another source for that assertion since the linked article, mostly based on interviews with 35 people, doesn't seem to include it.

Assuming you meant after being in Russia.

Best numbers I can find are from Estonia. It's easy to find out how many Ukrainians have taken shelter in various countries, harder to get information about which borders they crossed to get there. The article I linked to is almost a year old, numbers are probably much higher by now, but as of May last year 20K Ukrainians had crossed from Russia. Estonia has about 60K Ukrainian refugees in residence now.
Beaker

Beaker Avatar

Location: Your safe space


Posted: Feb 15, 2023 - 1:30pm

 R_P wrote:

I guess you must have another source for that assertion since the linked article, mostly based on interviews with 35 people, doesn't seem to include it.


Nice apologist banter you have there.  It would be a shame if it was outed.

The Guardian: Thousands of Ukrainian children put through Russian ‘re-education’ camps, US report finds
"New report details network of dozens of Russian camps aimed at giving children pro-Moscow views, with some children detained indefinitely"

The Yale report the story links to: YaleHRL_Systematic.Reeducation.Transfer.2023.02.14.1237.pdf (PDF)

Twitter: Russia Embassy in USA utters lies
R_P

R_P Avatar



Posted: Feb 15, 2023 - 1:14pm

 Lazy8 wrote:
Not all of them voluntarily. And a great many are crossing the country to flee to western Europe.

I guess you must have another source for that assertion since the linked article, mostly based on interviews with 35 people, doesn't seem to include it.

Assuming you meant after being in Russia.

Page: Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5 ... 88, 89, 90  Next