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Posted: May 24, 2018 - 12:32pm


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Posted: May 24, 2018 - 11:58am

The letter Trump sent to Kim Jong Un canceling the summit, annotated

Basically, Trump is canceling the summit because of the “tremendous anger and open hostility” North Korea displayed recently, to Pence and threatening to cancel the summit itself.

Here’s the background to all that:

  1. As Trump officials said they wanted North Korea to totally dismantle their nuclear capabilities, North Korea had appeared to waver about whether it was going to participate in the meeting with Trump.

  2. In response, Trump White House officials started comparing North Korea to Libya, a country that dismantled its nascent nuclear program. It’s an ominous one for North Korea: That same leader ended up dead less than a decade later after a civil war in which the U.S. got militarily involved.

  3. As North Korea escalated suggestions it might not participate in the summit, Trump officials doubled down. In a Fox News interview this week, Vice President Pence said North Korea would “end like the Libya model ended” if Kim backed out of the meeting with Trump. Asked if he was threatening Kim, Pence said: “I think it’s more of a fact.”

 
  1. In response, North Korea’s Vice Minister of Foreign Affairs said Pence’s comments were “stupid” and “ignorant” and called him a “political dummy.”

  2. Also this week, Trump threatened to back out of the summit if North Korea did not meet “certain conditions.” He did not elaborate on what those conditions were, reports The Post’s Anna Fifield.

  3. North Korea issued a statement in response saying it’s up to the United States to “meet us at a meeting room or encounter us at nuclear-to-nuclear showdown.”

  4. Now the summit is canceled, with Trump citing “tremendous anger and open hostility” on North Korea’s part.


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Posted: May 16, 2018 - 11:57am

 cc_rider wrote:

Jeez, ya plunge a few countries into civil war, and all of sudden you're the bad guy.
c.

 




Though it is fair to note that he would not be alone in this club, it quite a large club with members of both parties. He is just unabashed about it.
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Posted: May 16, 2018 - 11:53am

 cc_rider wrote:

Jeez, ya plunge a few countries into civil war, and all of sudden you're the bad guy.
c.

 
{#Lol}
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Posted: May 16, 2018 - 11:32am

 Proclivities wrote:

"Repugnant" is a very fitting description of Bolton.

 
Jeez, ya plunge a few countries into civil war, and all of sudden you're the bad guy.
c.
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Posted: May 16, 2018 - 11:24am

 R_P wrote:
Baggage...
Citing US Invasions of Iraq and Libya, North Korea Says 'Repugnance' of John Bolton Threatens Talks
"North Korea sees the prospect of John Bolton driving negotiations as a real threat, realizing his main goal may be driving them into the ground."

 
"Repugnant" is a very fitting description of Bolton.  It could be a move on the part of NK to distance have Trump distance Bolton from the talks as that author Murphy speculated.


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Posted: May 16, 2018 - 11:14am

 R_P wrote:
Baggage...
Citing US Invasions of Iraq and Libya, North Korea Says 'Repugnance' of John Bolton Threatens Talks
"North Korea sees the prospect of John Bolton driving negotiations as a real threat, realizing his main goal may be driving them into the ground."

 





And they are right, I can't believe the Walrus is back in government. Un freekin' believable. You could not do any worse than the trifecta of Sessions, Guilani and Bolton. Three humongous strikes.


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Posted: May 16, 2018 - 11:05am

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:

Mr. Kim is definitely smarter than Trump

 
Dotard! 
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Posted: May 16, 2018 - 11:01am

 R_P wrote:
Baggage...
Citing US Invasions of Iraq and Libya, North Korea Says 'Repugnance' of John Bolton Threatens Talks
"North Korea sees the prospect of John Bolton driving negotiations as a real threat, realizing his main goal may be driving them into the ground."

 
Mr. Kim is definitely smarter than Trump
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Posted: May 16, 2018 - 9:57am

Baggage...
Citing US Invasions of Iraq and Libya, North Korea Says 'Repugnance' of John Bolton Threatens Talks
"North Korea sees the prospect of John Bolton driving negotiations as a real threat, realizing his main goal may be driving them into the ground."
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Posted: May 15, 2018 - 8:50pm

 haresfur wrote:

Well, what do you expect when you won't meet the other side's symbolic de-escalation with your own symbolic de-escalation?

 
yeah, pretty stupid going there.  somewhere I remember hearing that we would not stop holding our exercises regardless of how things progressed, but this is a show of bad faith on US / SK's part.

Oh well ...
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Posted: May 15, 2018 - 4:18pm

 R_P wrote:
North Korea cancels talks with South Korea and warns US

North Korea has cancelled Wednesday's high-level talks with South Korea because of anger over its joint military exercises with the US.

The North's official KCNA news agency said the exercises were a "provocation" and a rehearsal for an invasion.

It also warned the US over the fate of the historic summit between Kim Jong-un and US President Donald Trump that is scheduled for 12 June in Singapore. (...)



 
Well, what do you expect when you won't meet the other side's symbolic de-escalation with your own symbolic de-escalation?
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Posted: May 15, 2018 - 2:41pm

North Korea cancels talks with South Korea and warns US

North Korea has cancelled Wednesday's high-level talks with South Korea because of anger over its joint military exercises with the US.

The North's official KCNA news agency said the exercises were a "provocation" and a rehearsal for an invasion.

It also warned the US over the fate of the historic summit between Kim Jong-un and US President Donald Trump that is scheduled for 12 June in Singapore. (...)


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Posted: May 3, 2018 - 7:36pm

North Korea’s Leader Was Funny, Charming, and Confident but Brought His Own Toilet
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Posted: Apr 27, 2018 - 5:16am

Thanks, Obama !!
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Korean leaders plan an end to war and 'complete denuclearization'


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Posted: Apr 26, 2018 - 6:05pm

Kim Jong Un makes history; crosses border for summit with Moon

(...) Kim's news agency said that the leader would "open-heartedly" discuss with Moon "all the issues arising in improving inter-Korean relations and achieving peace, prosperity and reunification of the Korean peninsula" in a "historic" summit. It's the first time one of the ruling Kim leaders has crossed over to the southern side of the Demilitarized Zone since the Korean War ended in 1953.

The greeting of the two leaders was planned to the last detail. Thousands of journalists were kept in a huge conference center well away from the summit, except for a small group of tightly-controlled pool reporters at the border. Moon stood near the Koreas' dividing line, moving forward the moment he glimpsed Kim appearing in front of a building on the northern side. They shook hands with the border line between them. Moon then invited Kim to cross into the South; Kim invited Moon into the North, and they then took a ceremonial photo facing the North and then another photo facing the South. (...)


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Posted: Apr 25, 2018 - 9:45am

 black321 wrote:

honest question: what was/is the plan (besides his use of twitter to instigate?)

 
honest answer: I don't know.  He's made it plain that he will not telegraph exactly what he intends to do or how on matters.  He has however stated his goals.  I trust that he is working on achieving those goals.  So far, so good.  WW III has not started as has been the warning of his detractors. 

We are seeing things happen that have never happened before, things thought to never have been possible.  China is actually cooperating and NK is responding positively.  Have to see how it plays out.
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Posted: Apr 24, 2018 - 6:20am

 kurtster wrote:
I find all this new found cautious optimism regarding Trump's efforts regarding NK amusing and self serving.  With all of the shit I've taken over Trump, this new found charity in the form of thinking that maybe Trump may actually have a plan that is working instead of he is unfit to have his fingers on the button just does not come off as sincere.

Let's be honest.  I know what all of you are really thinking.  This isn't about world peace.  Its really about Trump wanting to open up new resort hotels and golf courses.  He figures that he can buy his way in and give Kim a piece of the action in exchange for peace and exclusive rights to develop NK.  All those deserted beaches waiting for high rise towers and casinos.  And think of all the cheap slave labor available to build and staff the properties.

That's what y'all are really thinking, right ?

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honest question: what was/is the plan (besides his use of twitter to instigate?)
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Posted: Apr 23, 2018 - 11:23pm

US and North Korea expectations over denuclearization appear to collide
Signs that the US and North Korea interpretations are worlds apart as Kim Jong-un pledges to keep his country’s arsenal for generations
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Posted: Apr 23, 2018 - 7:43pm

 kurtster wrote:
I find all this new found cautious optimism regarding Trump's efforts regarding NK amusing and self serving.  With all of the shit I've taken over Trump, this new found charity in the form of thinking that maybe Trump may actually have a plan that is working instead of he is unfit to have his fingers on the button just does not come off as sincere.

Let's be honest.  I know what all of you are really thinking.  This isn't about world peace.  Its really about Trump wanting to open up new resort hotels and golf courses.  He figures that he can buy his way in and give Kim a piece of the action in exchange for peace and exclusive rights to develop NK.  All those deserted beaches waiting for high rise towers and casinos.  And think of all the cheap slave labor available to build and staff the properties.

That's what y'all are really thinking, right ?

.


 
Valid.
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