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geoff_morphini

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Posted: Aug 4, 2025 - 4:24pm

 KurtfromLaQuinta wrote:

Nice common sense from the man from Montana.

Both sides of the spectrum need to flush the toilet.



The ol’ there’s bad people on both sides, equivalence.

R_P

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Posted: Aug 4, 2025 - 3:52pm

"Now listen here you queer, Stop calling me a Nazi" William Buckley debating Gore vidal (1968)

Pre-woke era
KurtfromLaQuinta

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Posted: Aug 4, 2025 - 3:50pm

 Lazy8 wrote:

If you can't face the reality of how we got here you will never be part of getting us out of here.

Nice common sense from the man from Montana.

Both sides of the spectrum need to flush the toilet.


Proclivities

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Posted: Aug 4, 2025 - 1:23pm

 Lazy8 wrote:
The left really needs to own it culpability for the current state of our politics. What do you call an actual Nazi when you've called anyone you don't like a Nazi* for years? Right-wing edgelords have taken to ironically adopting Nazi imagery, language, and policies because it provokes the hysterical reaction that numbs the public to what's happening.
Stephen Miller is directing policy in the White House for the second time. We have masked secret police sweeping the streets to imprison anyone they want without trial. But you already called George W. Bush and John McCain fascists; now that it actually applies using it just sounds like more breathless hyperbole. ...

I agree that the overuse of the term "fascist" has rendered it essentially meaningless - or at least "diluted" as was suggested in the earlier post you responded to. This is also true of other terms like "genocide", "gaslighting", or "woke", etc..  And it does seem like alarmist, "breathless hyperbole" to use the term now, even though it does apply to the current administration in numerous ways. There were even frequent posts in here calling Clinton and Obama and their policies "fascist" (usually mysteriously spelled as "facist").
Still, I'm not sure the left has to own full culpability for the current state of our politics (though you didn't really state that) - there are many factors and the right had a lot to do with it.
islander

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Posted: Aug 4, 2025 - 11:40am

 Lazy8 wrote:

If you can't face the reality of how we got here you will never be part of getting us out of here.


We got here because a bunch of knuckle draggers thought the idea of trump hurting 'others' sounded pretty great.  

There certainly wasn't a bunch of right wing hand wringing in 2020 because the right was overusing the term 'woke' (they were). And blaming that for the reason Biden was elected.

Our politics have devolved. There are reasons for that on both sides. But the fact that we have masked people running around violating peoples rights is because people voted for someone who had very public fascist tendencies.   The guy said he wouldn't be a dictator, except for the times he might be a dictator very publicly. The fault lies with the people who believed that was a joke, not the people who said "yeah, that's a fascist". 

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Posted: Aug 4, 2025 - 11:12am

 Lazy8 wrote:
The left really needs to own it culpability for the current state of our politics. (...)

Y'all are like (...)

Sounds like kurtster's evil MAGA twin (and what a fascist would say). Who's the hard-right gonna blame?



The folksy wife beater's chorus: "Y'all made me do this!"
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Posted: Aug 4, 2025 - 10:14am

 Lazy8 wrote:

If you can't face the reality of how we got here you will never be part of getting us out of here.

And how does blaming Democrats for the behavior of the Republicans productive to solving the problem? I can face the reality and would appreciate it if you wouldn't splice my comment into only those statements you have issues with.

I think we should get rid of the ancients in the party, beginning with Schumer. And we should gerrymander the hell out of blue state maps - fight fire with fire.
Yes, they've made mistakes, I'll admit that. But again, going FORWARD ...

Do tell what YOU think Democrats should do to solve the problem? And why blaming them will help?

Lazy8

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Posted: Aug 4, 2025 - 10:06am

 Isabeau wrote:
Name calling and labeling is the M.O. of the Felon Prez.  The left is not responsible for the BEHAVIOR of Republicans or the FP.
Who IS responsible? SCOTUS. CONGRESS. CITIZEN'S UNITED. RABID GERRYMANDERING. McConnell, Fox Spews, et al.
These are the things that got the inmates running the asylum.

Don't blame Democrats or the Left for the ACTIONS of  'Christian Conservatives.' They are not the ones kidnapping people, redrawing maps or blowing a hole in International trade.

If you can't face the reality of how we got here you will never be part of getting us out of here.
Isabeau

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Posted: Aug 4, 2025 - 10:01am

Name calling and labeling is the M.O. of the Felon Prez.  The left is not responsible for the BEHAVIOR of Republicans or the FP.
Who IS responsible? SCOTUS. CONGRESS. CITIZEN'S UNITED. RABID GERRYMANDERING. McConnell, Fox Spews, et al.
These are the things that got the inmates running the asylum.

Don't blame Democrats or the Left for the ACTIONS of  'Christian Conservatives.' They are not the ones kidnapping people, redrawing maps or blowing a hole in International trade.
(I see "Distraction Jackson" has weighed in with his usual Squirrel Fetch tactic. )

Now, let's discuss/and list the name-calling vomit from the petulant Five year old Felon Prez, who fired the BLS chairman because he didn't like the numbers ...

Lazy8

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Posted: Aug 4, 2025 - 9:48am

 rgio wrote:
Semantic dilution is one of the keys to the MAGA whataboutisms.

Nazi is a term that we've all normalized over time.  Your a "language Nazi" or a "rules Nazi", etc.   It's helped to make the idea of actually believing and/or acting like a real Nazi not such a big deal.  Now that we have Republicans supporting Nazi type activities... it just doesn't feel so serious.  Throw Sydney Sweeney into the mix... and it's even less serious.   Protect the tribe at all costs.  The more stupid conversation about Nazis there is, the harder it is to recognize the real threats.  Nobody was really threatened by the title of this thread... were they?

This "dilution" works on both sides.  Woke, cancel culture, toxic... all get played as the reason for so many wrongs, that people either use the term as intended, or use the term as a means to diminish an opinion they disagree with by "flooding the zone" with the use of the term.

Trump is also a huge user of dilution and labeling.  It's one of his superpowers.  Every Biden policy was a disaster.  Democrats are always crazy or corrupt.  All Democrat policy is "radical".  Anything reported that doesn't flatter Trump is "fake news".   Any accusation is a "witch hunt".  Facts suggesting anything inappropriate is a "hoax".  When Trump does anything it's "like never before" or "the greatest".  

Reason and logic give way to normalized acceptance.  It's a feature, not a bug.

The left really needs to own it culpability for the current state of our politics. What do you call an actual Nazi when you've called anyone you don't like a Nazi* for years? Right-wing edgelords have taken to ironically adopting Nazi imagery, language, and policies because it provokes the hysterical reaction that numbs the public to what's happening.

Stephen Miller is directing policy in the White House for the second time. We have masked secret police sweeping the streets to imprison anyone they want without trial. But you already called George W. Bush and John McCain fascists; now that it actually applies using it just sounds like more breathless hyperbole. 

Y'all are like the Check Engine light that comes on when the gas cap is loose and won't turn off until you go to the dealer to get the code reset. Now we have a rod knock and the last of the oil is billowing out the back in a thick white cloud. The Check Engine light has been on for a year. You can exult See, we were right all along but your warning became meaningless with overuse. We still aren't getting home and the car is trashed.

*The term most abused in this fashion is fascist, but the same critique applies.

Proclivities

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Posted: Aug 4, 2025 - 8:48am

 rgio wrote:

Semantic dilution is one of the keys to the MAGA whataboutisms...

I think the Sydney Sweeney thing is a repeat of the Ward Churchill tactic.  Take some relatively fringe lefty opinion and portray it as "all the liberals/democrats are saying this"

— Oliver Willis (@owillis.bsky.social) August 4, 2025 at 11:38 AM

Is anyone on the left actually upset about Sydney Sweeney? I couldn't care less and haven't met a single person who does. Another manufactured scandal.

— David Pakman (@davidpakman.bsky.social) August 4, 2025 at 11:18 AM

rgio

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Posted: Aug 4, 2025 - 4:53am

 buddy wrote:

This topic is a typical kurtster indulgence, just trying to poke the bear for a reaction he can pounce upon. Not worth the bother. Nothing to see here.


Semantic dilution is one of the keys to the MAGA whataboutisms.   

Nazi is a term that we've all normalized over time.  Your a "language Nazi" or a "rules Nazi", etc.   It's helped to make the idea of actually believing and/or acting like a real Nazi not such a big deal.  Now that we have Republicans supporting Nazi type activities... it just doesn't feel so serious.  Throw Sydney Sweeney into the mix... and it's even less serious.   Protect the tribe at all costs.  The more stupid conversation about Nazis there is, the harder it is to recognize the real threats.  Nobody was really threatened by the title of this thread... were they?

This "dilution" works on both sides.  Woke, cancel culture, toxic... all get played as the reason for so many wrongs, that people either use the term as intended, or use the term as a means to diminish an opinion they disagree with by "flooding the zone" with the use of the term.

Trump is also a huge user of dilution and labeling.  It's one of his superpowers.  Every Biden policy was a disaster.  Democrats are always crazy or corrupt.  All Democrat policy is "radical".  Anything reported that doesn't flatter Trump is "fake news".   Any accusation is a "witch hunt".  Facts suggesting anything inappropriate is a "hoax".  When Trump does anything it's "like never before" or "the greatest".  

Reason and logic give way to normalized acceptance.  It's a feature, not a bug.


buddy

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Posted: Aug 3, 2025 - 5:42pm

This topic is a typical kurtster indulgence, just trying to poke the bear for a reaction he can pounce upon. Not worth the bother. Nothing to see here.
R_P

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Posted: Aug 3, 2025 - 2:28pm

Culture war distraction bandwagon.
islander

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Posted: Aug 2, 2025 - 5:40pm

 Red_Dragon wrote:





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Posted: Aug 2, 2025 - 4:04pm


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Posted: Aug 1, 2025 - 6:37pm

 geoff_morphini wrote:
  You, of course, demonstrate you are a moron, once again.
 
The people doing the accusing are yours not mine.  You own it.
geoff_morphini

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Posted: Aug 1, 2025 - 6:27pm

 kurtster wrote:
A thread for those who are obsessed with the threat of Nazis in America.  

A place to list those who the left has declared to be a Nazi.

Sydney Sweeny is the latest.
.


Only a Nazi would say something like that, right ?


You, of course, demonstrate you are a moron, once again.
kurtster

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Posted: Aug 1, 2025 - 6:23pm

A thread for those who are obsessed with the threat of Nazis in America.  

A place to list those who the left has declared to be a Nazi.

Sydney Sweeny is the latest.
.


Only a Nazi would say something like that, right ?
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