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islander

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Posted: Aug 14, 2024 - 1:10pm

 Beaker wrote:

I saw it on the Internet, so it MUST be true!  

Absolutely crazy what an effect the new AI generation tech will have / could be used to push misinformation the easily persuadable.




And you are 'just following orders', right?
Beaker

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Posted: Aug 14, 2024 - 12:16pm

I saw it on the Internet, so it MUST be true!  

Absolutely crazy what an effect the new AI generation tech will have / could be used to push misinformation to the easily persuadable.



rgio

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Posted: Aug 13, 2024 - 8:56am

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Narrator: He did not pay anyone’s legal fees.

If you're his CFO and you want him to "support the family"... you pay his legal fees.  If you're anyone who attempted to help him expose the fraud of the 2020 election (ie Rudy and co....), you promise and then don't pay.  

Payment is solely based on your loyalty to the family.
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Posted: Aug 13, 2024 - 8:45am

 rgio wrote:

Trump has promised to release all of the January 6 "patriots"?

You're losing it dude.  Trump starting the riot...did nothing... starts his rallies with the choir of convicts... and suggests he'll let them all go.... and you want to somehow suggest the BLM riots are similar?

And, a greatest hit:

"If you see somebody getting ready to throw a tomato, knock the crap out of them,"
"I'll pay the legal fees,"

Narrator: He did not pay anyone’s legal fees.
rgio

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Posted: Aug 13, 2024 - 8:33am

 kurtster wrote:

Fair point.  I would instead say encouraged the rioters and might add by helping to fund the bail for the rioters, aided and abetted them ?  While being a sitting Senator.  She certainly did nothing to calm thing down.  That is clear.

Trump has promised to release all of the January 6 "patriots"?

You're losing it dude.  Trump starting the riot...did nothing... starts his rallies with the choir of convicts... and suggests he'll let them all go.... and you want to somehow suggest the BLM riots are similar?



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Posted: Aug 13, 2024 - 8:30am

 Proclivities wrote:
 kurtster wrote:
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And in the say anything department, Harris is now trying to portray herself as the tough law and order prosecutor.  This after her history of inciting rioting.

Technically, "inciting" a riot would need to occur before the riot were to take place.  Arranging for bail for rioters, after a riot takes place, could be called other things, but it is not incitement.  Supporting or predicting protests is not incitement either.  A better example of incitement would be something like this: "We fight like hell. And if you don't fight like hell, you're not going to have a country anymore,"  - though even that is subject to debate given context.
 
Fair point.  I would instead say encouraged the rioters and might add by helping to fund the bail for the rioters, aided and abetted them ?  While being a sitting Senator.  She certainly did nothing to calm thing down.  That is clear.
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Posted: Aug 13, 2024 - 7:48am


• Trump incited a riot at the Capitol where Police were beaten, calls to hang the Vice President were shouted and feces was smeared on the Capitol walls.
• Within 36 hours, five people died: one was shot by Capitol Police, another died of a drug overdose, and three died of natural causes, including a police officer. 
• 174 police officers were injured and 4 officers who responded to the attack died by suicide within seven months.
• Damage caused by attackers exceeded $2.7 million.

TRUMP DID NOTHING FOR FOUR HOURS.
Keep splitting the short and curlies over who 'incites' violence. Paper thin and pathetic.
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Posted: Aug 13, 2024 - 7:29am

 Proclivities wrote:

Technically, "inciting" a riot would need to occur before the riot were to take place.  Arranging for bail for rioters, after a riot takes place, could be called other things, but it is not incitement.  Supporting or predicting protests is not incitement either.  A better example of incitement would be something like this: "We fight like hell. And if you don't fight like hell, you're not going to have a country anymore,"  - though even that is subject to debate given context.



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Posted: Aug 13, 2024 - 5:39am

 kurtster wrote:
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And in the say anything department, Harris is now trying to portray herself as the tough law and order prosecutor.  This after her history of inciting rioting.

Technically, "inciting" a riot would need to occur before the riot were to take place.  Arranging for bail for rioters, after a riot takes place, could be called other things, but it is not incitement.  Supporting or predicting protests is not incitement either.  A better example of incitement would be something like this: "We fight like hell. And if you don't fight like hell, you're not going to have a country anymore,"  - though even that is subject to debate given context.
rgio

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Posted: Aug 13, 2024 - 5:34am

 kurtster wrote:

Walz let this rioting go one for two days before calling in the National Guard.  He waited so long because ?  There is a famous video of IIRC, a CNN reporter standing in front of burning buildings saying that the protests were largely "peaceful".  Harris showed her approval of the riots and rioters by organizing funds to bail out the arrested rioters.  Said or did nothing to promote calm to reign in the rioting other than call for defunding the police.

And in the say anything department, Harris is now trying to portray herself as the tough law and order prosecutor.  This after her history of inciting rioting.

Walz called in the National Guard before Trump offered any help.  

Donald Trump regarding Tim Walz handling of Minneapolis riots (June 1, 2020 recording) : 

“Tim, you called up big numbers and the big numbers knocked them out so fast, it was like bowling pins,”
“What they did in Minneapolis was incredible. They went in and dominated, and it happened immediately,”
“(Walz is) an excellent guy”

In the say-anything department... your boy blatantly lies about his involvement and changes his mind about the recorded and public praise he directed at Walz's handling of the events? 

So what changed?
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Posted: Aug 12, 2024 - 9:26pm

 kurtster wrote:

Walz let this rioting go one for two days before calling in the National Guard.  He waited so long because ?  There is a famous video of IIRC, a CNN reporter standing in front of burning buildings saying that the protests were largely "peaceful".  Harris showed her approval of the riots and rioters by organizing funds to bail out the arrested rioters.  Said or did nothing to promote calm to reign in the rioting other than call for defunding the police.

And in the say anything department, Harris is now trying to portray herself as the tough law and order prosecutor.  This after her history of inciting rioting.

One or two days seems in line or faster than other major riot situations like Watts and Rodney King. Dynamic situation and typically one would want the police to handle things if possible. When did they say they needed the guard? I don't know and expect you don't either.  

I mean unless you want the military to be patrolling your streets all the time.

I have read quite a bit of criticism of Harris from the left for her stance on crime. Her legacy is mixed, as it should be for someone in that position where you deal with actual cases and actual people rather than just a few high-profile headlines. She ran as anti-death penalty and didn't seek it in a case of a murdered police officer but also appealed a federal court ruling that the state's death penalty law was unconstitutional. Many of her reforms were successful, some not so, and some like threatening to jail parents whose children were truants (none were actually jailed) were successful but considered unwarranted. She did a good job taking on the banks after the global financial crisis, and got a huge settlement for California compared to what Obama had negotiated. But I guess you don't consider white collar crime a problem. trump certainly doesn't.

This Vox article seems pretty balanced.
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Posted: Aug 12, 2024 - 6:06pm

 haresfur wrote:
 Beaker wrote:

Tim Walz legacy? I guess you are saying that as governor he could have done more to reform the Minneapolis police department so that their murder didn't happen.  A bit of a stretch 
 
Walz let this rioting go one for two days before calling in the National Guard.  He waited so long because ?  There is a famous video of IIRC, a CNN reporter standing in front of burning buildings saying that the protests were largely "peaceful".  Harris showed her approval of the riots and rioters by organizing funds to bail out the arrested rioters.  Said or did nothing to promote calm to reign in the rioting other than call for defunding the police.

And in the say anything department, Harris is now trying to portray herself as the tough law and order prosecutor.  This after her history of inciting rioting.
Red_Dragon

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Posted: Aug 12, 2024 - 5:23pm

 haresfur wrote:

Tim Walz legacy? I guess you are saying that as governor he could have done more to reform the Minneapolis police department so that their murder didn't happen. 

A bit of a stretch 



Since Drumph came on the scene the attempts to grasp at the thinnest of straws has increased exponentially.
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Posted: Aug 12, 2024 - 4:45pm

 Beaker wrote:



Tim Walz legacy? I guess you are saying that as governor he could have done more to reform the Minneapolis police department so that their murder didn't happen. 

A bit of a stretch 

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Posted: Aug 12, 2024 - 4:43pm

 kurtster wrote:

Perhaps you know better than anyone.

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Posted: Aug 12, 2024 - 3:58pm

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BTW - Bullet Train is AWESOME



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Posted: Aug 12, 2024 - 2:45pm

 rgio wrote:
In the Right's classic "whataboutism"... Trump is a scumbag, so we'll find something that offsets his transgressions.  

If you look up Snopes "Did Kamala have an extramarital affair that boosted her career"... the answer is mixed. (...)

Sure... he may have provided some early help in getting that "well known springboard to Attorney General... the CA unemployment insurance appeals board..."  They were adults, he was estranged from his wife, it was over long before she was ever elected to anything.

Anything to distract from the reality that Trump's Vengence 3.0 tour is falling apart. 


It isn't the first time these feces were flung into the forum.

I don't think misogynistic/racist attacks are going to impress many possible swing voters.


rgio

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Posted: Aug 12, 2024 - 2:03pm

 R_P wrote:

It never is with you, and yet you keep providing ample evidence to the contrary. I'll now add misogyny.

Your troll-y image post didn't mention 'fraternization'.

Your leadership can't be pleased.

In the Right's classic "whataboutism"... Trump is a scumbag, so we'll find something that offsets his transgressions.  

If you look up Snopes "Did Kamala have an extramarital affair that boosted her career"... the answer is mixed.

What's True

Harris did date former San Francisco Mayor and State Assembly Speaker Willie Brown for a period of time between 1994 to 1995. In his capacity as speaker, Brown appointed her to two political posts — first to the California Unemployment Insurance Appeals Board, and then to the Medical Assistance Commission.

What's False

Although Brown was technically still married during the time period that he dated Harris, he had been estranged from his wife Blanche Brown for more than a decade. Harris' first, successful run for office in 2003 happened well after the relationship ended, and Harris sought to distance herself from Brown.


Sure... he may have provided some early help in getting that "well known springboard to Attorney General... the CA unemployment insurance appeals board..."  They were adults, he was estranged from his wife, it was over long before she was ever elected to anything.

Anything to distract from the reality that Trump's Vengence 3.0 tour is falling apart. 



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Posted: Aug 12, 2024 - 1:35pm

 kurtster wrote:
It's not racist as you are trying to make this out to be.

It's fraternization.  Doesn't matter who the players are.

It never is with you, and yet you keep providing ample evidence to the contrary. I'll now add misogyny.

Your troll-y image post didn't mention 'fraternization'.

Your leadership can't be pleased.
Steely_D

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Posted: Aug 12, 2024 - 12:31pm

 kurtster wrote:
Harris has engaged in fraternization to advance in politics.  About as bad as it gets.  

Au contraire, mon frère 


("Yeah, but that wasn't to advance in politics!")
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