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Posted: Oct 6, 2020 - 4:15am

 Steely_D wrote:


 KarmaKarma wrote:
Could be worse.  You could actually live in Portland.
 

Or is it the best

 
Fred is the best.{#Lol}
miamizsun

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Posted: Oct 6, 2020 - 4:11am

 Steely_D wrote:
Or is it the best
 
{#Lol}
Steely_D

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Posted: Oct 5, 2020 - 8:48pm



 KarmaKarma wrote:
Could be worse.  You could actually live in Portland.


 

Or is it the best


KarmaKarma

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Posted: Oct 5, 2020 - 6:58pm

Could be worse.  You could actually live in Portland.


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Posted: Oct 5, 2020 - 12:13pm

LGBT Twitter users tease far-right group by taking over Proud Boys hashtag
sirdroseph

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Posted: Oct 4, 2020 - 7:55am



 westslope wrote:
Voting is important, critically important.

But let's not turn a blind eye to the influence of special interests and social movements.   Much of what makes rich, western countries so attractive came out of the struggle of numerous social movements over the centuries:

-  anti-slavery movement
- anti-racist movements (e.g., the anti-Apartheid movement where the Sullivan Code had a huge impact)
-  feminist movements
-  the union movement
-  farmer cooperative movements and cooperative movements in general
-  various peace and disarmament movements
-  the environmental and ecological movements

Protest can be very effective.    Non-violent civil disobedience requires a lot of thought and discipline and can be very effective.

Violent protest can lead to change but is risky.  It can provoke backlash.  It can taint the narrative so the cause may ultimately be delayed by years if not decades.   Invariably there are innocent victims and surprise, surprise, the same arguments often used to justify American terrorism abroad do not work in a civil setting.   Well it worked for decades for those who to drink alcohol, drive and kill people.  But not so much these days. 
 

Don't disagree with any of that and yet you still have not addressed my point either.  If it is important enough to risk exposure to covid by gathering by the thousands in the streets for protest and riots, but you are willing to risk putting your vote in the mail, arriving at said location (even after seeing all of the videos of postal workers dumping ballots in garbage) and being processed correctly as opposed to showing up in person, pushing the buttons in real time and getting a verification print out of the vote you just submitted then your priorities are clearly displayed by actions and not words.  However given the extreme perversion of our election process due to the complete hijacking by the Republican and Democrat parties,  perhaps protest and looting is more effective than voting after all.
westslope

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Posted: Oct 4, 2020 - 7:34am

Voting is important, critically important.

But let's not turn a blind eye to the influence of special interests and social movements.   Much of what makes rich, western countries so attractive came out of the struggle of numerous social movements over the centuries:

-  anti-slavery movement
- anti-racist movements (e.g., the anti-Apartheid movement where the Sullivan Code had a huge impact)
-  feminist movements
-  the union movement
-  farmer cooperative movements and cooperative movements in general
-  various peace and disarmament movements
-  the environmental and ecological movements

Protest can be very effective.    Non-violent civil disobedience requires a lot of thought and discipline and can be very effective.

Violent protest can lead to change but is risky.  It can provoke backlash.  It can taint the narrative so the cause may ultimately be delayed by years if not decades.   Invariably there are innocent victims and surprise, surprise, the same arguments often used to justify American terrorism abroad do not work in a civil setting.   Well it worked for decades for those who liked to drink alcohol, drive and kill people.  But not so much these days. 
sirdroseph

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Posted: Oct 4, 2020 - 7:26am



 ScottFromWyoming wrote:


 sirdroseph wrote:
A general sentiment that has been bugging me for awhile.  If voting is the most important act of protest that you can do then it seems to me that you would want to insure your vote is counted by voting in person.  If one can protest, loot and pillage in person because it means that much to them then maybe one should show up in person for the ultimate protest, no?

 

But Covid made vote-by-mail much more desirable. And the whole thing obfuscates the worry about actual vote tampering via rigged ballot-counting schemes. If we can get people to accept that an in-person vote is un-fuckupable, then any wild anomalies will be accepted without question.
 

Obfuscate sounds like an appropriate word for this response.
ScottFromWyoming

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Posted: Oct 4, 2020 - 7:14am



 sirdroseph wrote:
A general sentiment that has been bugging me for awhile.  If voting is the most important act of protest that you can do then it seems to me that you would want to insure your vote is counted by voting in person.  If one can protest, loot and pillage in person because it means that much to them then maybe one should show up in person for the ultimate protest, no?

 

But Covid made vote-by-mail much more desirable. And the whole thing obfuscates the worry about actual vote tampering via rigged ballot-counting schemes. If we can get people to accept that an in-person vote is un-fuckupable, then any wild anomalies will be accepted without question.
sirdroseph

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Posted: Oct 4, 2020 - 7:02am

A general sentiment that has been bugging me for awhile.  If voting is the most important act of protest that you can do then it seems to me that you would want to insure your vote is counted by voting in person.  If one can protest, loot and pillage in person because it means that much to them then maybe one should show up in person for the ultimate protest, no?

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Posted: Oct 2, 2020 - 4:48am

 KarmaKarma wrote:
 
Thanks again, I needed this.  With a little luck, he will never reproduce now.
Steely_D

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Posted: Oct 1, 2020 - 9:33pm



 R_P wrote:
Seeing how it's Proud Boys Promo Day over here as well...

Proud Boys (ADL)
Proud Boys (SPLC)


Some of the many people Trump has denied knowing
 

For being President of the US, he certainly says “I don’t know anything about it/them” an awful lot.

I don’t see that as a positive trait, but somehow it makes his supporters feel good about him. “See, he is just like us!”
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Posted: Oct 1, 2020 - 8:51pm

Seeing how it's Proud Boys Promo Day over here as well...

Proud Boys (ADL)
Proud Boys (SPLC)


Some of the many people Trump has denied knowing
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Posted: Oct 1, 2020 - 8:47pm



 steeler wrote:


 KarmaKarma wrote:


 steeler wrote:


 KarmaKarma wrote:
Proud Boys is more racially diverse than Antifa.

 
What do they stand for? What is their agenda?

 
You should Google it.  Ask someone to show you how Google works.

Meanwhile:

Proud Boys, Black Lives Matter leaders hold joint conference in SLC: We 'denounce White supremacy'



 
Ah, so you are saying we know what they say they are not. 

The Wall Street Journal reports:

Who are the Proud Boys?The Proud Boys describe themselves as a men’s organization for “western chauvinists.”

Thanks for the Google tip.
 
Funny shit:
Antifa smashing?  I'm good with that.
steeler

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Posted: Oct 1, 2020 - 8:23pm



 KarmaKarma wrote:


 steeler wrote:


 KarmaKarma wrote:
Proud Boys is more racially diverse than Antifa.

 
What do they stand for? What is their agenda?

 
You should Google it.  Ask someone to show you how Google works.

Meanwhile:

Proud Boys, Black Lives Matter leaders hold joint conference in SLC: We 'denounce White supremacy'



 
Ah, so you are saying we know what they say they are not. 

The Wall Street Journal reports:

Who are the Proud Boys?

The Proud Boys describe themselves as a men’s organization for “western chauvinists.”

Thanks for the Google tip.
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Posted: Oct 1, 2020 - 7:45pm


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Posted: Oct 1, 2020 - 7:42pm



 steeler wrote:


 KarmaKarma wrote:
Proud Boys is more racially diverse than Antifa.

 
What do they stand for? What is their agenda?

 
You should Google it.  Ask someone to show you how Google works.

Meanwhile:

Proud Boys, Black Lives Matter leaders hold joint conference in SLC: We 'denounce White supremacy'



R_P

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Posted: Oct 1, 2020 - 6:51pm

 KarmaKarma wrote:
Proud Boys is more racially diverse than Antifa.
 
So is the U.S. prison population.
steeler

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Posted: Oct 1, 2020 - 6:45pm



 KarmaKarma wrote:
Proud Boys is more racially diverse than Antifa.

 
What do they stand for? What is their agenda?

KarmaKarma

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Posted: Oct 1, 2020 - 6:41pm

Proud Boys is more racially diverse than Antifa.

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