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Posted: Oct 25, 2020 - 7:19am



 Red_Dragon wrote:

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Posted: Oct 25, 2020 - 7:06am

AP Finds Most Arrested in Protests Aren’t Leftist Radicals
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Posted: Oct 20, 2020 - 2:29pm

Inaction. Reaction.

Rot in hell, Seattle city council.

Seattle police officers quit force, slam 'socialist city council and their political agenda'


The Post Millennial has obtained over 175 pages of exit interviews from more than one hundred Seattle Police Department officers stating their reasons for leaving the force. This following a record setting exodus of officers from the force of over 118 officers in 2020, 39 officers in September alone.

The same comments, often expressing the same frustrations, can be seen repeatedly through the documents.
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Posted: Oct 19, 2020 - 5:22am

silly people whipped into a frenzy and initiating violence

ganging up on people and hurting them isn't a good idea

can't have anything nice
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Posted: Oct 6, 2020 - 4:51pm


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Posted: Oct 6, 2020 - 8:53am

 Prof. Fake News wrote:
Actually, none of you know anything at all.  This has been shown repeatedly.


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Posted: Oct 6, 2020 - 8:13am



 miamizsun wrote:


however, there's a lot of really ugly video that most people (esp on the left) probably haven't seen

my concern is that this kind of behavior/video by blm/antifa could easily persuade people to vote in the other direction

outright threatening violence is a poor look regardless of which/whose kool-aid you're swilling

to win the election, you'll need the center/moderate votes and these radical nutters aren't helping

if trump wins, i think these people will deserve some of the credit/blame


 
Accurate.  Good take.

Although, don't fall for "if Trump wins".... he WILL win, and it's only a matter of how many more states will turn red from the 2016 result.

The "if Trump wins" and 'Biden is leading in the polls' narrative is a desperate attempt by the activist liberal media that the left insists on continuing to consume after the same media have been shown to have lied to you, over and over since 2016, if not earlier.

An old and incomplete list. 


Does anyone remember them?  Hoax after hoax, the left continues to fall for every freaking one of them.  

And of course, the whole Russia gate thing was recently exposed as being promoted and approved by Hillary as a distraction for her email scandal.  fyi Her email crimes are still under investigation!

Democratic voters deserve better leaders and representatives than Biden, Schumer, Pelosi, AOC, Schiff, Tlaib & Omar - their actions and words have supported the ongoing violence and anarchy in the streets.  No one seriously wants that.  This is one of the reasons Trump will win big in November.

And of course, the Republicans deserve a better leader than Trump too.  However, you have to admit - he's done what he promised to do and that in itself is a huge departure from politics as usual.  The Republicans are well ahead of the Democrats already in positioning their platform for 2024
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Posted: Oct 6, 2020 - 4:59am

 KarmaKarma wrote:
 miamizsun wrote:
i know you're in here jacking around

Actually, none of you know anything at all.  This has been shown repeatedly.
 
thanks
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Posted: Oct 6, 2020 - 4:51am



 miamizsun wrote:

i know you're in here jacking around


Actually, none of you know anything at all.  This has been shown repeatedly.

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Posted: Oct 6, 2020 - 4:35am

 KarmaKarma wrote:
Could be worse.  You could actually live in Portland.
 
i know you're in here jacking around

however, there's a lot of really ugly videos that most people (esp on the left) probably haven't seen

my concern is that this kind of behavior/video by blm/antifa could easily persuade people to vote in the other direction

outright threatening violence is a poor look regardless of which/whose kool-aid you're swilling

to win the election, you'll need the center/moderate votes and these radical nutters aren't helping

if trump wins, i think these people will deserve some of the credit/blame
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Posted: Oct 6, 2020 - 4:15am

 Steely_D wrote:


 KarmaKarma wrote:
Could be worse.  You could actually live in Portland.
 

Or is it the best

 
Fred is the best.{#Lol}
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Posted: Oct 6, 2020 - 4:11am

 Steely_D wrote:
Or is it the best
 
{#Lol}
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Posted: Oct 5, 2020 - 8:48pm



 KarmaKarma wrote:
Could be worse.  You could actually live in Portland.


 

Or is it the best


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Posted: Oct 5, 2020 - 6:58pm

Could be worse.  You could actually live in Portland.


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Posted: Oct 5, 2020 - 12:13pm

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Posted: Oct 4, 2020 - 7:55am



 westslope wrote:
Voting is important, critically important.

But let's not turn a blind eye to the influence of special interests and social movements.   Much of what makes rich, western countries so attractive came out of the struggle of numerous social movements over the centuries:

-  anti-slavery movement
- anti-racist movements (e.g., the anti-Apartheid movement where the Sullivan Code had a huge impact)
-  feminist movements
-  the union movement
-  farmer cooperative movements and cooperative movements in general
-  various peace and disarmament movements
-  the environmental and ecological movements

Protest can be very effective.    Non-violent civil disobedience requires a lot of thought and discipline and can be very effective.

Violent protest can lead to change but is risky.  It can provoke backlash.  It can taint the narrative so the cause may ultimately be delayed by years if not decades.   Invariably there are innocent victims and surprise, surprise, the same arguments often used to justify American terrorism abroad do not work in a civil setting.   Well it worked for decades for those who to drink alcohol, drive and kill people.  But not so much these days. 
 

Don't disagree with any of that and yet you still have not addressed my point either.  If it is important enough to risk exposure to covid by gathering by the thousands in the streets for protest and riots, but you are willing to risk putting your vote in the mail, arriving at said location (even after seeing all of the videos of postal workers dumping ballots in garbage) and being processed correctly as opposed to showing up in person, pushing the buttons in real time and getting a verification print out of the vote you just submitted then your priorities are clearly displayed by actions and not words.  However given the extreme perversion of our election process due to the complete hijacking by the Republican and Democrat parties,  perhaps protest and looting is more effective than voting after all.
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Posted: Oct 4, 2020 - 7:34am

Voting is important, critically important.

But let's not turn a blind eye to the influence of special interests and social movements.   Much of what makes rich, western countries so attractive came out of the struggle of numerous social movements over the centuries:

-  anti-slavery movement
- anti-racist movements (e.g., the anti-Apartheid movement where the Sullivan Code had a huge impact)
-  feminist movements
-  the union movement
-  farmer cooperative movements and cooperative movements in general
-  various peace and disarmament movements
-  the environmental and ecological movements

Protest can be very effective.    Non-violent civil disobedience requires a lot of thought and discipline and can be very effective.

Violent protest can lead to change but is risky.  It can provoke backlash.  It can taint the narrative so the cause may ultimately be delayed by years if not decades.   Invariably there are innocent victims and surprise, surprise, the same arguments often used to justify American terrorism abroad do not work in a civil setting.   Well it worked for decades for those who liked to drink alcohol, drive and kill people.  But not so much these days. 
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Posted: Oct 4, 2020 - 7:26am



 ScottFromWyoming wrote:


 sirdroseph wrote:
A general sentiment that has been bugging me for awhile.  If voting is the most important act of protest that you can do then it seems to me that you would want to insure your vote is counted by voting in person.  If one can protest, loot and pillage in person because it means that much to them then maybe one should show up in person for the ultimate protest, no?

 

But Covid made vote-by-mail much more desirable. And the whole thing obfuscates the worry about actual vote tampering via rigged ballot-counting schemes. If we can get people to accept that an in-person vote is un-fuckupable, then any wild anomalies will be accepted without question.
 

Obfuscate sounds like an appropriate word for this response.
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Posted: Oct 4, 2020 - 7:14am



 sirdroseph wrote:
A general sentiment that has been bugging me for awhile.  If voting is the most important act of protest that you can do then it seems to me that you would want to insure your vote is counted by voting in person.  If one can protest, loot and pillage in person because it means that much to them then maybe one should show up in person for the ultimate protest, no?

 

But Covid made vote-by-mail much more desirable. And the whole thing obfuscates the worry about actual vote tampering via rigged ballot-counting schemes. If we can get people to accept that an in-person vote is un-fuckupable, then any wild anomalies will be accepted without question.
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Posted: Oct 4, 2020 - 7:02am

A general sentiment that has been bugging me for awhile.  If voting is the most important act of protest that you can do then it seems to me that you would want to insure your vote is counted by voting in person.  If one can protest, loot and pillage in person because it means that much to them then maybe one should show up in person for the ultimate protest, no?

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