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Posted: Apr 22, 2020 - 5:33pm



 buddy wrote:
 

And here, Las Vegas is volunteering themselves as a 'control group'.  Translation?: we wish to resume collecting casino profits, fuck the dead.?
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Posted: Apr 22, 2020 - 5:31pm



 BlueHeronDruid wrote:
 
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BlueHeronDruid

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Posted: Apr 22, 2020 - 5:27pm

NY: 88% of Covid patients on ventilators perished, most with other health issues.


One other surprising finding from the study was that 70 percent of the
patients sick enough to be admitted to the hospital did not have a
fever.


ScottFromWyoming

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Posted: Apr 22, 2020 - 4:40pm



 haresfur wrote:


 Lazy8 wrote:
kcar wrote:
"if we can't get film of the virus invading a host cell and replicating, then how do we know?"


We do have such film. I saw clips of such activity while watching the excellent series on PBS, "The Gene: An Intimate History." 

I think that guy on FB needs to use the vast resources of the Internet to read up and educate himself. 

Covid-19 diameter: 125 nm
Visible light wavelength:  380-740 nm

Won't be no film at 11 of this one.
 
Who says you have to use visible light?

 
Um because if you can't see it it doesn't exist, DUH. 

haresfur

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Posted: Apr 22, 2020 - 4:30pm



 Lazy8 wrote:
kcar wrote:
"if we can't get film of the virus invading a host cell and replicating, then how do we know?"


We do have such film. I saw clips of such activity while watching the excellent series on PBS, "The Gene: An Intimate History." 

I think that guy on FB needs to use the vast resources of the Internet to read up and educate himself. 

Covid-19 diameter: 125 nm
Visible light wavelength:  380-740 nm

Won't be no film at 11 of this one.
 
Who says you have to use visible light?

miamizsun

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Posted: Apr 22, 2020 - 3:04pm



 Steely_D wrote:

This is a really nice opinion piece on what’s happening in the lungs that makes folks collapse. I imagine that’s what was happening when I felt not so bad, and then suddenly couldn’t walk, back when I (likely) had it in early March.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/0...

 

i think i read earlier where your apple watch has the ability to give an oxygen sat reading

most fitbits too

disabled (or not enabled) by the fda
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Posted: Apr 22, 2020 - 2:38pm

kcar wrote:
"if we can't get film of the virus invading a host cell and replicating, then how do we know?"


We do have such film. I saw clips of such activity while watching the excellent series on PBS, "The Gene: An Intimate History." 

I think that guy on FB needs to use the vast resources of the Internet to read up and educate himself. 

Covid-19 diameter: 125 nm
Visible light wavelength:  380-740 nm

Won't be no film at 11 of this one.
ScottFromWyoming

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Posted: Apr 22, 2020 - 12:10pm



 kcar wrote:


 ScottFromWyoming wrote:
Was just in a conversation with a nurse on FB about the virus and a guy chimed in that she was trying to prove the existence of fairies... if we can't get film of the virus invading a host cell and replicating, then how do we know? 

And he votes. 
 
"if we can't get film of the virus invading a host cell and replicating, then how do we know?"


We do have such film. I saw clips of such activity while watching the excellent series on PBS, "The Gene: An Intimate History." 

I think that guy on FB needs to use the vast resources of the Internet to read up and educate himself. 

 

He's just a skeptic because all the images he's seen are computer models.
rgio

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Posted: Apr 22, 2020 - 12:03pm



 buddy wrote:
 
Per the article, 8,000 died in colorado from the pandemic. 

In a city of 1.8M, Philly lost 20,000, including 4,500 in one week in September of 1918. 

My Great-Great-Grandmother died 4 days after the infamous War Bond parade (no idea if she/anyone in the house was there).  365 deaths to date in Philly (with ~225k fewer residents now than 100 years ago).  Lesson learned here!

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Posted: Apr 22, 2020 - 11:48am



 ScottFromWyoming wrote:
Was just in a conversation with a nurse on FB about the virus and a guy chimed in that she was trying to prove the existence of fairies... if we can't get film of the virus invading a host cell and replicating, then how do we know? 

And he votes. 
 
"if we can't get film of the virus invading a host cell and replicating, then how do we know?"


We do have such film. I saw clips of such activity while watching the excellent series on PBS, "The Gene: An Intimate History." 

I think that guy on FB needs to use the vast resources of the Internet to read up and educate himself. 

ScottFromWyoming

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Posted: Apr 22, 2020 - 11:34am



 rgio wrote:


Who could have believed that the smartest and most honorable among us wouldn't go near public office, and by doing so allow very average people to focus on personal reward instead of the public good?

 
Nobody!



rgio

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Posted: Apr 22, 2020 - 11:22am



 ScottFromWyoming wrote:
Was just in a conversation with a nurse on FB about the virus and a guy chimed in that she was trying to prove the existence of fairies... if we can't get film of the virus invading a host cell and replicating, then how do we know? 

And he votes. 
 
He wasn't supposed to matter.  We're a Republic (not a democracy)  and the Electors (ie Electoral College) were supposed to be the balance between public stupidity and government policy. 

Who could have believed that the smartest and most honorable among us wouldn't go near public office, and by doing so allow very average people to focus on personal reward instead of the public good?

ScottFromWyoming

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Posted: Apr 22, 2020 - 10:36am

Was just in a conversation with a nurse on FB about the virus and a guy chimed in that she was trying to prove the existence of fairies... if we can't get film of the virus invading a host cell and replicating, then how do we know? 

And he votes. 
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Posted: Apr 22, 2020 - 10:21am

black321 wrote:
Re. Trump and Plaquenil...its not whether the drug works or not, but that a president  ought not to be using his soap box to suggest treatments, especially those that are unproven.


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Posted: Apr 22, 2020 - 10:11am

 Steely_D wrote:

This is a really nice opinion piece on what’s happening in the lungs that makes folks collapse. I imagine that’s what was happening when I felt not so bad, and then suddenly couldn’t walk, back when I (likely) had it in early March.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/0...

 
You were lucky but did I see right that there is no immunity?
Steely_D

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Posted: Apr 22, 2020 - 10:08am


This is a really nice opinion piece on what’s happening in the lungs that makes folks collapse. I imagine that’s what was happening when I felt not so bad, and then suddenly couldn’t walk, back when I (likely) had it in early March.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/0...

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Posted: Apr 22, 2020 - 9:49am



 sirdroseph wrote:
Saw this over at other place and think it is spot on.  No politics, no conspiracy, no finger pointing or arm chair expertice direction:

 

My timeline is a disaster right now. To those of you who feel like we should take this quarantine more seriously - I hear you. People are dying.

To those of you who feel like we should go back to business as usual - I hear you, too. Our livelihoods are dying.

But the truth is that no one really knows exactly when we should start to open this thing back up again. The experts don't really know. They're doing the best they can, but the honest ones will say they're not 100% sure.

Hear me here. Experts - people with doctorate degrees in this stuff - aren't 100% sure. They have access to all of the data and all the history and all of the models. They're watching what's happening around the world and trying to make the best decisions they can with the economy AND human lives in the balance.

You aren't an expert. I'm not an expert. We don't have access to all the information they do. And even if we did, we wouldn't know what to make of it. Our role is just to do what we have to do to survive, help each other out, and be cool.

So quit it with the drama. Right-wingers, we're not re-opening the state today. Left-wingers, we're not all going to die if your neighbor goes to Lowes. Be cool. We're going to be okay.

I know it's not fun. I miss being on stage. I miss traveling. I miss hugging people. I know my friends are watching their businesses crumble. I know people are dying. It sucks. It all sucks.

But throughout history and around the world, people have been through a lot worse with a lot less complaining. We're not really showing a whole lot of toughness here. For all the bluster about greatness, a lot of us are revealing ourselves to be whiners who think we're entitled to a risk-free, pain-free existence.

2020 is going to be a big chapter in the history books. Our kids are going to ask us what we did. Don't have tell them you were a conspiracy theorist or a panic monkey or a whiner. Be able to tell them that you did what you had to do and we made it. Be able to tell them that, if you were able, you helped people - and if you needed help, you took it with dignity.



{#Meditate}


 

 
Thank you.
c.

sirdroseph

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Posted: Apr 22, 2020 - 9:28am

Saw this over at other place and think it is spot on.  No politics, no conspiracy, no finger pointing or arm chair expertice direction:

 

My timeline is a disaster right now. To those of you who feel like we should take this quarantine more seriously - I hear you. People are dying.

To those of you who feel like we should go back to business as usual - I hear you, too. Our livelihoods are dying.

But the truth is that no one really knows exactly when we should start to open this thing back up again. The experts don't really know. They're doing the best they can, but the honest ones will say they're not 100% sure.

Hear me here. Experts - people with doctorate degrees in this stuff - aren't 100% sure. They have access to all of the data and all the history and all of the models. They're watching what's happening around the world and trying to make the best decisions they can with the economy AND human lives in the balance.

You aren't an expert. I'm not an expert. We don't have access to all the information they do. And even if we did, we wouldn't know what to make of it. Our role is just to do what we have to do to survive, help each other out, and be cool.

So quit it with the drama. Right-wingers, we're not re-opening the state today. Left-wingers, we're not all going to die if your neighbor goes to Lowes. Be cool. We're going to be okay.

I know it's not fun. I miss being on stage. I miss traveling. I miss hugging people. I know my friends are watching their businesses crumble. I know people are dying. It sucks. It all sucks.

But throughout history and around the world, people have been through a lot worse with a lot less complaining. We're not really showing a whole lot of toughness here. For all the bluster about greatness, a lot of us are revealing ourselves to be whiners who think we're entitled to a risk-free, pain-free existence.

2020 is going to be a big chapter in the history books. Our kids are going to ask us what we did. Don't have tell them you were a conspiracy theorist or a panic monkey or a whiner. Be able to tell them that you did what you had to do and we made it. Be able to tell them that, if you were able, you helped people - and if you needed help, you took it with dignity.

{#Meditate}

 

black321

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Posted: Apr 22, 2020 - 8:52am



 rgio wrote:


 black321 wrote:
Re. Trump and Plaquenil...its not whether the drug works or not, but that a president  ought not to be using his soap box to suggest treatments, especially those that are unproven.
 
By grasping at straws, he continues to provide his base, who think he's doing so much already, the sense that a miracle is just around the corner.  Since it is...go back to work, go out and buy stuff, hang out at a restaurant.  

If he was honest and told people it is likely to be a year before there is a vaccine or treatment plan for Covid, that might suggest that he has no control over the virus.

 

To be perfectly balanced, it also feeds the left, eager to bring him down, with material...see headline, Trimps drug not effective...fostering further divisiveness, which is ultimately why trump is so bad for this country.
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Posted: Apr 22, 2020 - 8:19am



 rgio wrote:


 black321 wrote:
Re. Trump and Plaquenil...its not whether the drug works or not, but that a president  ought not to be using his soap box to suggest treatments, especially those that are unproven.
 
By grasping at straws, he continues to provide his base, who think he's doing so much already, the sense that a miracle is just around the corner.  Since it is...go back to work, go out and buy stuff, hang out at a restaurant.  

If he was honest and told people it is likely to be a year before there is a vaccine or treatment plan for Covid, that might suggest that he has no control over the virus.

 

The outer limits of Trump’s timeline extends to the general election in November. He needs to be able to claim “victory” over the virus before then. So he is inclined to cut corners and take gambles. 
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