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Posted: Sep 16, 2023 - 4:07pm

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:


I learned a bit, but I also saw two smart guys. Dr. Vaughan used language to describe fibrin that's very similar to the article that Lazy linked. So we have  Vaughan who's working independently, but reading a lot and making some connections but is really not waving a red flag, but he's being vocal enough to draw attention and get on TV. The other one is a quack. I tried to watch his bit but I couldn't finish. Scrolled to the end and I wouldn't trust him on any subject. No that's not a valid commentary on what he has to say, but I don't like him so he's wrong. ;-)

Re: Sinclair:





All ignoring Sharyl Attkisson, one of the most storied investigative reporters of our time.  Sharyl has been covering COVID, the pharma cos & the vaccine injuries for quite a while. 

"Attkisson is a five-time Emmy Award winner, and a Radio Television Digital News Association (RTNDA) Edward R. Murrow Award recipient."


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Posted: Sep 16, 2023 - 4:00pm

 Beaker wrote:

Perhaps if you had bothered to watch the vid ...



I learned a bit, but I also saw two smart guys. Dr. Vaughan used language to describe fibrin that's very similar to the article that Lazy linked. So we have  Vaughan who's working independently, but reading a lot and making some connections but is really not waving a red flag, but he's being vocal enough to draw attention and get on TV. The other one is a quack. I tried to watch his bit but I couldn't finish. Scrolled to the end and I wouldn't trust him on any subject. No that's not a valid commentary on what he has to say, but I don't like him so he's wrong. ;-)

Re: Sinclair:



Beaker

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Posted: Sep 16, 2023 - 3:30pm

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Saw that back then. Yeah, I've got the Long Covid and have been watching to see how it's being figured out.
A buddy had emergency heart surgery after a valve rupture and my optometrist was out of work four months because of busted brain. We need a good reason that it's so heterogenous in presentation.

Perhaps if you had bothered to watch the vid ...

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Posted: Sep 16, 2023 - 3:02pm

sheesh
Beaker

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Posted: Sep 16, 2023 - 2:35pm

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See who was attacking whom first. 

And, nothing I posted is invalidated. So you could find an obscure "news" YouTube with someone who says they know more than everyone else. Those sorts of things are a dime a dozen and completely irrelevant to contemporary medical care standards. Anyone can disagree with anything, but if they're right - their contentions are agreed with by their peers and the ideas are codified into medical literature, not on a site that also features household product reviews and anime. Again, no credible medical professional, or thoughtful layperson, gets their medical information from stuff like this.

Secondary issue: is there anyone - anyone - on RP who has ever changed their mind after watching something like this? It looks more like a desperate attempt to feed an ego ("Look what I know that you don't!") than anything that actually moves the thought needle in a different direction.

Lastly, you're right about me wasting my time trying to reason with you. But you understand my point. Have a good one.


good lord.  
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Posted: Sep 16, 2023 - 2:25pm

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If you're looking for a credible account of the covid/blood clot relationship I invite you to inspect this one.

Please note that it's from December of 2022.



Saw that back then. Yeah, I've got the Long Covid and have been watching to see how it's being figured out.
A buddy had emergency heart surgery after a valve rupture and my optometrist was out of work four months because of busted brain. We need a good reason that it's so heterogenous in presentation.
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Posted: Sep 16, 2023 - 2:23pm

If you're looking for a credible account of the covid/blood clot relationship I invite you to inspect this one.

Please note that it's from December of 2022.
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Posted: Sep 16, 2023 - 2:11pm

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Also - thanks for telling me you don't understand memes ...

See who was attacking whom first. 

And, nothing I posted is invalidated. So you could find a "news" YouTube with someone who says they know more than everyone else. Those sorts of things are a dime a dozen and completely irrelevant to contemporary medical care standards. Note that this particular product is owned by the Sinclair group. According to Wiki: A 2019 study in the American Political Science Review found that "stations bought by Sinclair reduce coverage of local politics, increase national coverage and move the ideological tone of coverage in a conservative direction relative to other stations operating in the same market."<5><6> The company has been criticized by journalists and media analysts for requiring its stations to broadcast packaged video segments and its news anchors to read prepared scripts that contain pro-Trump editorial content, including warnings about purported "fake news" in mainstream media, while Trump has tweeted support for watching Sinclair over CNN and NBC.<7><8><9><10><11>

Anyone can spout their position on anything, but if they're right - their contentions are agreed with by their peers and the ideas are codified into medical literature, not on a site that also features household product reviews and anime. Again, no credible medical professional, or thoughtful layperson, gets their medical information from stuff like this.

Secondary issue: is there anyone - anyone - on RP who has ever changed their mind after watching something like this? It looks more like a desperate attempt to feed an ego ("Look what I know that you don't!") than anything that actually moves the thought needle in a different direction.

Lastly, you're right about me wasting my time trying to reason with you. But you understand my point. Have a good one.

(Edited to add some info about Sinclair)
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Posted: Sep 16, 2023 - 1:48pm

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The plural of anecdote is not data.

You're sure investing a lot of time attacking a vid you couldn't bother to actually watch. 

Oh, I get it.  You're not attacking the vid.  You're attacking the messenger!
Your logical fallacy is ad hominem.  Same like so often around here.

The vid:


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Posted: Sep 16, 2023 - 1:31pm

 Beaker wrote:
Also - thanks for telling me you don't understand memes ...

Son, I read Dawkins where he coined the term when the book (The Selfish Gene - still have my copy) first came out. Memes and I are old, and friends, and now old friends.
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Posted: Sep 16, 2023 - 1:28pm

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I didn’t watch the vid. As I said, that’s not where I get information from. There’s no reason.
See, you could’ve figured it out from my post - but you couldn’t come to a conclusion, but you had an open mind, and you got a medical professional to tell you what’s the best right answer. That’s how it works.



If you had bothered to watch the vid, you would know it's ALL medical professionals presenting what they know - and their first hand experience.  But you be you.
Also - thanks for telling me you don't understand memes ...
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Posted: Sep 16, 2023 - 1:26pm

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Just wait until he asks you to look at the weird mole on his neck.


I got one of those...
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Posted: Sep 16, 2023 - 1:20pm

 Steely_D wrote:


I didn’t watch the vid. As I said, that’s not where I get information from. There’s no reason.
See, you could’ve figured it out from my post - but you couldn’t come to a conclusion, but you had an open mind, and you got a medical professional to tell you what’s the best right answer. That’s how it works.




Just wait until he asks you to look at the weird mole on his neck.
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Posted: Sep 16, 2023 - 1:13pm

 Beaker wrote:

Tell me you didn't bother to watch the vid without telling me you didn't bother to watch the vid...


I didn’t watch the vid. As I said, that’s not where I get information from: a discredited "journalist" and a giant corporate mouthpiece. There’s no reason.
See, you could’ve figured it out from my post - but you couldn’t come to a conclusion, but you had an open mind, and you got a medical professional to tell you what’s the best right answer. That’s how it works.



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Posted: Sep 16, 2023 - 1:02pm

 Beaker wrote:

Tell me you didn't bother to watch the vid without telling me you didn't bother to watch the vid...


I'll tell you directly. and if you add SDs not watch, that's probably 40 or more minutes of real life not wasted on chaff.
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Posted: Sep 16, 2023 - 12:13pm

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I don't get my medical information from Good Housekeeping, Oprah, or the folks who hope for eyeballs on the internet. I listen to the people who've spent their whole lives getting through college, med school, residency, training in their speciality, and have devoted their lives and careers to understanding a problem and helping people afflicted with it. Very very few of those people go on shows like that - because they're eccentric.

Follow whomever you want, but you'll find all kinds of dramatic misinformation out there. If you start with what you want to hear, you'll find plenty of people who want to use their big word gobbledygook to get you to watch and nod.

Worse, medicine isn't decided by The People. You don't get a say, or a vote. If it's a virus, no amount of hysteria makes an antibiotic work on it. No amount of "what if" makes a horse dewormer treat Covid. Sorry, but biology, immunology, medicinal care - they're not a democracy.

Tell me you didn't bother to watch the vid without telling me you didn't bother to watch the vid...
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Posted: Sep 16, 2023 - 11:58am

 Beaker wrote:

An important vid - the latest understanding of COVID vax injury and long-COVID.  


I don't get my medical information from Good Housekeeping, Oprah, or the folks who hope for eyeballs on the internet. I listen to the people who've spent their whole lives getting through college, med school, residency, training in their speciality, and have devoted their lives and careers to understanding a problem and helping people afflicted with it. Very very few of those people go on shows like that - because they're eccentric.

Follow whomever you want, but you'll find all kinds of dramatic misinformation out there. If you start with what you want to hear, you'll find plenty of people who want to use their big word gobbledygook to get you to watch and nod.

Worse for populists, medicine isn't decided by The People. You don't get a say, or a vote. If it's a virus, no amount of hysteria makes an antibiotic work on it. No amount of "what if" makes a horse dewormer treat Covid. Sorry, but biology, immunology, medicinal care - they're not a democracy.
Beaker

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Posted: Sep 16, 2023 - 11:46am

An important vid - the latest understanding of COVID vax injury and long-COVID.  Also - some important info & commentary on the new vax being offered this fall.  Watch the whole thing - and share.



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Posted: Aug 2, 2023 - 4:22pm

Conservative Political Rhetoric Now Has an Official Body Count
The Journal of the American Medical Association published a damning report confirming that party affiliation in Ohio and Florida was a risk for dying of Covid-19.
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