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Posted: Dec 24, 2020 - 2:05pm

Fumigate!
The White House—Scene of COVID Outbreaks under Trump—Will Get a Deep Clean for President-Elect Biden
Fears about lingering coronavirus are prompting a massive disinfection initiative before the Bidens move in


PS: Count the silverware...
Rockit9

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Posted: Dec 24, 2020 - 1:27pm

www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWgApSmu1K4
westslope

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Posted: Dec 24, 2020 - 11:18am

Hope everybody is enjoying the solstice and staying safe.

Question:  Will the SARS-CoV-2 UK variant and Republic of South Africa variant scare folks silly into behaving better?


In passing I would not be surprised if the variant is already circulating in North America.  Evolution should unfold the same here as it does elsewhere.  I don't think it is a big deal but if it scares people into behaving more responsibly then it is a good thing.
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Posted: Dec 24, 2020 - 9:54am



 triskele wrote:
I work for a small office, there are only about a dozen of us.  Just heard that a fourth person has the virus.  People ignoring safety guidelines, and having house parties. Thankfully, we are still working remotely.
This should guarantee that to continue indefinitely.  

 

we have about 180 employees over 3 shifts. we've had 18 cases so far, mostly night/weekend shift in the warehouse. 3 cases in the front office have us a bit edgy. Our dept. is right next to the front office.
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Posted: Dec 24, 2020 - 8:21am

 triskele wrote:
I work for a small office, there are only about a dozen of us.  Just heard that a fourth person has the virus.  People ignoring safety guidelines, and having house parties. Thankfully, we are still working remotely.
This should guarantee that to continue indefinitely.  

 

sort of in that same boat

in the last four to five days a couple of breaches in extended families of co-workers

some of my business partners are home with mild to moderate symptoms

if our healthcare bureaucracy could only get something like this widely deployed...
triskele

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Posted: Dec 24, 2020 - 8:04am

I work for a small office, there are only about a dozen of us.  Just heard that a fourth person has the virus.  People ignoring safety guidelines, and having house parties. Thankfully, we are still working remotely.
This should guarantee that to continue indefinitely.  

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Posted: Dec 24, 2020 - 7:27am

 Steely_D wrote:
Sweden disproved the effectiveness of herd immunity in this case.

Covid-19: Sweden's herd immunity strategy has failed, hospitals inundated

 

as i understand it and if we believe what anders tegnell actually said, herd immunity wasn't first on the list

i'm pretty sure there are several videos of people asking him about herd immunity and he addressed that repeatedly 

that and he states he is open to good data and would make decisions based on that data

in other words their response isn't hardline or written in stone

it appears that sweden went with something close to the original who recommendations

with a virus like this, herd immunity is always the preferred outcome

i think it is usually through natural infection and vaccination
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Posted: Dec 23, 2020 - 2:39pm


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Posted: Dec 22, 2020 - 11:45am



 Ohmsen wrote:


 ScottN wrote:

This "source" also advocates that the 2020 Prez election was stolen among other questionable positions.
 

Whatever it also states, I highlighted my points in the quote. Your nitpicking shows a need to criticize. No contribution to the point discussed there, sorry! 
 

You confuse "nitpicking" with "pointing out that your source is a lunatic." Sorry!

Looks like it's time to push the ignore button. You've had enough tries.
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Posted: Dec 22, 2020 - 11:01am



 buddy wrote:


 oldviolin wrote:


 buddy wrote:
My sister in Texas is 73 with COPD, living in a senior community. She should be getting the vaccine in the first wave here soon.
 



 

She asks about you often.   

 
Please give her my love and Christmas wish for her peace and health...

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Posted: Dec 22, 2020 - 10:23am



 buddy wrote:
My sister in Texas is 73 with COPD, living in a senior community. She should be getting the vaccine in the first wave here soon.
 


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Posted: Dec 22, 2020 - 7:27am

 Coaxial wrote:

Some people don't get that their slant is very apparent and then get the vapors when you call them on it. They come here just to parrot the company line...Enough, please. {#Hand}
 
Some people don't get that their slant is very apparent and then get the vapors when you call them on it. They come here just to parrot the company line...Enough, please. {#Hand}
 
 
I was thinking the same thing.  See how that works?{#Wink}
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Posted: Dec 22, 2020 - 7:17am

 ScottN wrote:
 
 
Some people don't get that their slant is very apparent and then get the vapors when you call them on it. They come here just to parrot the company line...Enough, please. {#Hand}
ScottN

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Posted: Dec 22, 2020 - 6:24am

 Ohmsen wrote:


 Proclivities wrote:


 Ohmsen wrote:
HCQ, Vitamin D, and Zinc are the early known remedies in early stages of a Covid-19 infection, as has been told by various people from the beginning. Other allopathic medications have promising results, fighting the disease! See the upper menu bar on the following page, combining relevant studies and analyzing them, as per their efficacy:

https://c19study.com/

Strangely, no governments seem to be working out treatment plans for their populations, instead all seem to be going for vaccines which don't seem to promise anything other than big bucks for Big-Pharma. Are the people irrelevant to our leaders?
 
The vaccines "seem to promise" efficacy rates over 90%, as high as 95%.  "Seem" is an operative word of course, but still far from not promising "anything".
As far as governments not working out treatment plans, maybe it just "seems" that way to some people.  The US Dept. of Health and Human Services has several therapeutics (called "countermeasures" by them) publicized and made available and others in development, some through FDA Emergency Use.  The Biomedical Advanced Research and Development Authority  (BARDA - a branch of HHS) has invested in numerous programs of countermeasures: therapeutics for COVID, ventilators, immunomodulators or therapeutics targeting lung repair, pre-exposure and post-exposure prophylaxis for COVID exposure, respiratory protective devices, etc..  These programs started before last Spring.
Obviously, news of a vaccine or "cure" is bound to get more coverage than news of therapies and treatments.
 
Ohmsen's reply:

Western Public Health Officials Are Intentionally Withholding Life-Saving Safe Treatments for Covid:


We are living in a day in age where social media “fact-checkers” are patrolling the internet calling into question information, science, opinion and testimony from countless amounts of doctors and scientists, as well as independent media outlets who source this information, simply because it opposes the information that we are getting from the World Health Organization(WHO) for example, or other government health authorities.

One great example to illustrate this point is Hydroxychloroquine (HCQ), a drug, according to many, that can help treat COVID-19 patients.

This idea has been a common theme throughout the pandemic, which begs the question, if it’s true, why wasn’t the drug administered and made available for doctors to use and treat COVID patients during this pandemic? Why was it ridiculed by mainstream media and why did Facebook fact-checkers claim that Hydroxychloroquine was not useful, and possibly dangerous? Facebook fact checker Health Feedback, for example, states that there is no evidence that hydroxychloroquine can cure or prevent COVID-19. 

Do governments really execute the will of the people? When will we draw the line? Is it really justifiable for people who don’t get vaccinated to lose their rights and freedoms they were accustomed to prior to the pandemic? Why are so many doctors and scientists who oppose these measures being censored and unacknowledged?

Source.
 
This "source"  also advocates that the 2020 Prez election was stolen among other questionable positions.
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Posted: Dec 21, 2020 - 6:16pm



 kurtster wrote:

Developing antibodies in the herd is more valuable than a vaccine, imho. 
 

Sweden disproved the effectiveness of herd immunity in this case.

Covid-19: Sweden's herd immunity strategy has failed, hospitals inundated


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Posted: Dec 21, 2020 - 3:41pm



Vincent explains the properties of the SARS-CoV-2 UK variant and why claims that it is more transmissible are not supported by experimental data.
Proclivities

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Posted: Dec 21, 2020 - 12:53pm



 Ohmsen wrote:
HCQ, Vitamin D, and Zinc are the early known remedies in early stages of a Covid-19 infection, as has been told by various people from the beginning. Other allopathic medications have promising results, fighting the disease! See the upper menu bar on the following page, combining relevant studies and analyzing them, as per their efficacy:

https://c19study.com/

Strangely, no governments seem to be working out treatment plans for their populations, instead all seem to be going for vaccines which don't seem to promise anything other than big bucks for Big-Pharma. Are the people irrelevant to our leaders?
 
The vaccines "seem to promise" efficacy rates over 90%, as high as 95%.  "Seem" is an operative word of course, but still far from not promising "anything".
As far as governments not working out treatment plans, maybe it just "seems" that way to some people.  The US Dept. of Health and Human Services has several therapeutics (called "countermeasures" by them) publicized and made available and others in development, some through FDA Emergency Use.  The Biomedical Advanced Research and Development Authority  (BARDA - a branch of HHS) has invested in numerous programs of countermeasures: therapeutics for COVID, ventilators, immunomodulators or therapeutics targeting lung repair, pre-exposure and post-exposure prophylaxis for COVID exposure, respiratory protective devices, etc..  These programs started before last Spring.
Obviously, news of a vaccine or "cure" is bound to get more coverage than news of therapies and treatments.
ScottFromWyoming

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Posted: Dec 21, 2020 - 12:03pm



 ScottN wrote:
Interesting article on vaccine development:
 
 

And

She was demoted, doubted and rejected. Now, her work is the basis of the Covid-19 vaccine


haresfur

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Posted: Dec 20, 2020 - 11:41pm



 kurtster wrote:

Developing antibodies in the herd is more valuable than a vaccine, imho.  If something is effectively treatable then we should try and find the way(s) to do it. If nothing else to treat those for whom the vaccine does not work.  Or is not available.

Harvest the anti bodies and distribute them rather than a vaccine. 
Hell of a lot safer.

I've just come to learn that the vaccine is not safe for me as I have had a very violent reaction to a flu vaccine several years ago.  The CDC says people like me should not take the vaccine.  Oh well.  Been flying without a net for a very long time anyway.  I will just continue to wash my hands like I always do, continue my C, D and zinc as I have for years and take comfort that my blood type is O, which seems to be the best of all the other types in dealing with CV.

Obla di, Obla da ...
 
My understanding is that the mRNA vaccine, and maybe others don't so much produce antibodies but antigens so that your body rapidly produces the correct antibodies when it recognizes the covid virus. I might not have that quite correct, but harvesting antibodies doesn't seem to be viable. Besides, not sure why that would be any safer.

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Posted: Dec 20, 2020 - 7:13pm

Interesting article on vaccine development:
 
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