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Posted: Feb 4, 2021 - 10:30am

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:


 NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote:


 ScottFromWyoming wrote:


Dad and his wife got their first shots tho, and Justine and I get ours next Friday. 

 
What is the current take on people getting reinfected? And how long does the vaccine give you protection? Such a wealth of information out there, but this essential need-to-know stuff seems missing.

 

The assumption is that actually having Covid keeps you from getting sick again for about 3 months. Maybe longer, but my friend the county health officer, said that once I was cleared to go back to work (i.e.: "recovered"), I had about 3 months to get vaccinated before there was an increased risk of reinfection. Probably longer, but people getting newly-infected within 3 months are rare. He did say that getting the shot *while* I was symptomatic would be fine—its protection mechanism is different from the immunity that the actual disease gives me—but that it would probably be a Very Bad Time to have the shot's side effects on top of the actual illness.

He assumes the vaccine will be an annual thing, probably incorporated into the flu shot and tweaked each year. Some of the ones being developed don't need a booster, and we really need just a "decent" effectiveness rate, not necessarily 95% like the 2-dose hits we're getting now. So if everyone gets an annual shot that's 60% effective, that'll be enough, probably, to stay ahead of it. If we do it before the outbreak is roaring.

I'm not sure whether there's a "covid season" though. Probably matches flu season to some extent, just because people are indoors more.
  {#Cheers}  here's to vaccines and people named Scott.

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Posted: Feb 4, 2021 - 10:17am



 Steely_D wrote:


 westslope wrote:
Cases of the flu are at record lows.   Probably due in great part to the travel restrictions.    More flu shots than usual may have helped too.    It is good to see concrete evidence of the benefits of heeding health professionals.
 

It’s more likely to have been because we’re following the precautions that prevent its spread: masks, hand washing, distance. So, comparing this year to all the other careless ones, it’s going to be the lowest level. This is great news: precautions work.

 



The scary thing is how many times we've heard "it's like the flu".   The US 2019-2020 flu season had documented deaths of just over 7,000, which the CDC uses to estimate 35,000 in total.  No masks, no distancing, no lockdowns, travel, schools and sports and dining as you will....7,000,   There are 8,733 COVID deaths in February (3 days).

My Brother-in-law has been saying that for months.  He moved his kid to a private school because the local district was going to be partially remote.  He and his wife both tested positive yesterday.  They believe their son brought it home from school.  Ironic.

Levels are trending down and vaccinations are ramping up.  We just need be careful and stay the course, before one of the variants figures out our plan.  Every positive test puts those plans at risk.
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Posted: Feb 4, 2021 - 10:08am

looks like good news regarding severe disease and transmissibility /R0


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Posted: Feb 4, 2021 - 8:54am



 westslope wrote:
Cases of the flu are at record lows.   Probably due in great part to the travel restrictions.    More flu shots than usual may have helped too.    It is good to see concrete evidence of the benefits of heeding health professionals.
 

It’s more likely to have been because we’re following the precautions that prevent its spread: masks, hand washing, distance. So, comparing this year to all the other careless ones, it’s going to be the lowest level. This is great news: precautions work.
westslope

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Posted: Feb 4, 2021 - 8:44am

Cases of the flu are at record lows.   Probably due in great part to the travel restrictions.    More flu shots than usual may have helped too.    It is good to see concrete evidence of the benefits of heeding health professionals.

To those of you who have contracted the virus, I wish you all speedy recovery.   I also want to point out how lucky you are to fall sick with the virus in February 2021 as opposed to falling sick with the virus in the first half of 2020.   Even if you have underlying health conditions, your odds are much, much better now.  

To its eternal credit, the medical profession has been learning at 170 mph.  

With a little luck, this pandemic should be tamed to a great extent by the end of this year.   I sure hope so.  People are starting to emotionally fray.   
ScottFromWyoming

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Posted: Feb 4, 2021 - 8:21am



 NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote:


 ScottFromWyoming wrote:


Dad and his wife got their first shots tho, and Justine and I get ours next Friday. 

 
What is the current take on people getting reinfected? And how long does the vaccine give you protection? Such a wealth of information out there, but this essential need-to-know stuff seems missing.

 

The assumption is that actually having Covid keeps you from getting sick again for about 3 months. Maybe longer, but my friend the county health officer, said that once I was cleared to go back to work (i.e.: "recovered"), I had about 3 months to get vaccinated before there was an increased risk of reinfection. Probably longer, but people getting newly-infected within 3 months are rare. He did say that getting the shot *while* I was symptomatic would be fine—its protection mechanism is different from the immunity that the actual disease gives me—but that it would probably be a Very Bad Time to have the shot's side effects on top of the actual illness.

He assumes the vaccine will be an annual thing, probably incorporated into the flu shot and tweaked each year. Some of the ones being developed don't need a booster, and we really need just a "decent" effectiveness rate, not necessarily 95% like the 2-dose hits we're getting now. So if everyone gets an annual shot that's 60% effective, that'll be enough, probably, to stay ahead of it. If we do it before the outbreak is roaring.

I'm not sure whether there's a "covid season" though. Probably matches flu season to some extent, just because people are indoors more.
rgio

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Posted: Feb 4, 2021 - 6:24am



 JrzyTmata wrote:


 rgio wrote:


 JrzyTmata wrote:


 
I got my initial appt with a three month wait. then I found one that was only 2 months out. then I got COVID.

 
Just couldn't wait? 

"I'm gonna get those antibodies now!"

Hope all is well!

 
Vaccine by FIRE!! 


I'm doing ok. very mild symptoms so far. Buzz is also sick now.
 
Jrzy...  you really should have waited (said sarcastically).  I continue to be surprised by my interactions with NJ.  

This morning at 8:01 I received my link to schedule shot #1.  Click, enter DOB, select time, confirm.  I had my confirmation email at 8:02.  Next Wednesday at the Rowan supersite.

My only complaint about the experience in NJ is that my 89 YO father-in-law is still awaiting an appointment.  Everyone around him seems to be getting vaccinations (which is good), but we can't get him scheduled.

marko86

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Posted: Feb 4, 2021 - 4:44am



 NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote:


 ScottFromWyoming wrote:


Dad and his wife got their first shots tho, and Justine and I get ours next Friday. 

 
What is the current take on people getting reinfected? And how long does the vaccine give you protection? Such a wealth of information out there, but this essential need-to-know stuff seems missing.

 
Some stuff is just not known because the vaccines and the virus have not been around long enough. The new variants complicate the math on re-infection rates, but it is relatively low, so far. It also complicates the longevity of the shots. There will likely be a booster shot within a year because of the variants but once things gets settled in and vaccines are wide spread globally, best guess was about 2 years. It will be awhile before there is enough data to be more definitive about it.

My second shot is in a week. I felt a bit guilty about getting the shot earlier then expected, though being diabetic I was in the group. Turns out it was about 2 weeks earlier based on where we were on the list. We just happened to know somebody.

NoEnzLefttoSplit

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Posted: Feb 4, 2021 - 12:01am



 ScottFromWyoming wrote:


Dad and his wife got their first shots tho, and Justine and I get ours next Friday. 

 
What is the current take on people getting reinfected? And how long does the vaccine give you protection? Such a wealth of information out there, but this essential need-to-know stuff seems missing.

ScottFromWyoming

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Posted: Feb 3, 2021 - 9:08pm



 JrzyTmata wrote:


 BillG wrote:


 JrzyTmata wrote:


 rgio wrote:


 JrzyTmata wrote:


 
I got my initial appt with a three month wait. then I found one that was only 2 months out. then I got COVID.

 
Just couldn't wait? 

"I'm gonna get those antibodies now!"

Hope all is well!

 
Vaccine by FIRE!! 


I'm doing ok. very mild symptoms so far. Buzz is also sick now.
 

Yikes. That sucks. Any idea how you were exposed?
 

I don't go anywhere so it had to been from work. Although I wore a mask when around others and never spent more than a few minutes with anyone.
We've had about 25 positive cases since summer.
 
My co-worker got pretty lax over Christmas and she and her offspring had been in the office with some symptoms. We sit pretty far apart so if we were all being good away from the office, it shouldn't be a problem. But her extended family (one's a nurse) "dropped in" for the night etc etc. She only told me about that after I came back from isolation. Meanwhile my dad's six blocks away and I haven't had a meal with him since summer (outdoors, distanced, etc.). Of course once I got sick, it's been waving at each other thru the window. I get that it's hard to maintain the quarantine but she could have said something. She could have worked from home. I could have. /ragingaboutotherpeople

Dad and his wife got their first shots tho, and Justine and I get ours next Friday. 

JrzyTmata

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Posted: Feb 3, 2021 - 7:43pm



 BillG wrote:


 JrzyTmata wrote:


 rgio wrote:


 JrzyTmata wrote:


 
I got my initial appt with a three month wait. then I found one that was only 2 months out. then I got COVID.

 
Just couldn't wait? 

"I'm gonna get those antibodies now!"

Hope all is well!

 
Vaccine by FIRE!! 


I'm doing ok. very mild symptoms so far. Buzz is also sick now.
 

Yikes. That sucks. Any idea how you were exposed?
 

I don't go anywhere so it had to been from work. Although I wore a mask when around others and never spent more than a few minutes with anyone.
We've had about 25 positive cases since summer.
R_P

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Posted: Feb 3, 2021 - 7:05pm

 westslope wrote:
 R_P wrote:
 westslope wrote:
 R_P wrote:
..
 
There are measurement issues too.
 
"How can India flatten the Covid-19 death curve if it doesn't measure deaths properly?" says Dr Jha.

Easy:  herd immunity. 
 
That means vaccinating 60-70% of the population. Easier said than done.
 
That is not what I had in mind.   Was thinking of a more natural immunization process.  Of the kind that came to be associated with Trump. 
 
That's not going to flatten the curve any time soon. But you would end up with a nice Petri dish natural selection experiment both for the humans and the virus varieties.

There's the similarity in that they're both nationalists. Low numbers is better!
westslope

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Posted: Feb 3, 2021 - 6:58pm



 R_P wrote:
 westslope wrote:
 R_P wrote:
..
 
There are measurement issues too.
 
"How can India flatten the Covid-19 death curve if it doesn't measure deaths properly?" says Dr Jha.

Easy:  herd immunity. 
 
That means vaccinating 60-70% of the population. Easier said than done.
 
That is not what I had in mind.   Was thinking of a more natural immunization process.  Of the kind that came to be associated with Trump.  

R_P

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Posted: Feb 3, 2021 - 6:54pm

 westslope wrote:
 R_P wrote:
 westslope wrote:
.....
 
Prior belief:  I expected this to be a measurement issue.  Apparently it is not.

......
 
There are measurement issues too.
 
"How can India flatten the Covid-19 death curve if it doesn't measure deaths properly?" says Dr Jha.

Easy:  herd immunity. 
 
That means quickly vaccinating 60-70% of the population. Easier said than done.
westslope

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Posted: Feb 3, 2021 - 6:35pm



 R_P wrote:
 westslope wrote:
.....
 
Prior belief:  I expected this to be a measurement issue.  Apparently it is not.

......
 
There are measurement issues too.
 

"How can India flatten the Covid-19 death curve if it doesn't measure deaths properly?" says Dr Jha.


Easy:  herd immunity. 
R_P

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Posted: Feb 3, 2021 - 6:25pm

 westslope wrote:
 R_P wrote:
 
Prior belief:  I expected this to be a measurement issue.  Apparently it is not.

Then I was hopeful that the drop in C-19 cases in India was due to diet, in particular, curry and cumin.  No such luck.

The article did point out some benefits of having a fast rate of demographic growth and having much of your population living in impoverished squalor and dirt.  Any takers? 
 
There are measurement issues too.
kurtster

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Posted: Feb 3, 2021 - 6:20pm

 westslope wrote:


 R_P wrote:
 

Prior belief:  I expected this to be a measurement issue.  Apparently it is not.

Then I was hopeful that the drop in C-19 cases in India was due to diet, in particular, curry and cumin.  No such luck.

The article did point out some benefits of having a fast rate of demographic growth and having much of your population living in impoverished squalor and dirt.  Any takers?  

 
I have heard somewhere that diet makes a difference, but not the spices.  What I heard was a wheat / gluten based diet versus rice / no or very low gluten in the diet. Has to do with digestion and absorption of basic nutrients to maintain the immune system properly.  India as well as most of Eastern Asia is a rice based diet.  This area seems to have a much lower infection rate versus the western world as a whole.  Could there be something to this ?  I dunno.  Just thought that it was worth mentioning since diet was brought up.
Coaxial

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Posted: Feb 3, 2021 - 6:14pm

 BlueHeronDruid wrote:


 haresfur wrote:
We are masking up again. A worker in the hotel quarantine program got the 'rona (as SFW would say). Family with the variant from Britain opened their door to get their food at the same time as the people across the hall did. People across the hall caught it. Spooky.
 
Jeez!

hobbitt got his first Moderna shot today, second one scheduled for 3/3.

He's grounded now, until I get mine. Probably May or so.

I've been worrying about what I would do that would kill him. Now he's in a position of killing me.  

Well, both the cars belong to me, so I'll just take the keys away for a while....

 
Cool...My doctor got me moved up the list and I go tomorrow morning for my first and the 25th for my second shot.{#Meditate}
BlueHeronDruid

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Posted: Feb 3, 2021 - 5:47pm



 haresfur wrote:
We are masking up again. A worker in the hotel quarantine program got the 'rona (as SFW would say). Family with the variant from Britain opened their door to get their food at the same time as the people across the hall did. People across the hall caught it. Spooky.
 
Jeez!

hobbitt got his first Moderna shot today, second one scheduled for 3/3.

He's grounded now, until I get mine. Probably May or so.

I've been worrying about what I would do that would kill him. Now he's in a position of killing me.  

Well, both the cars belong to me, so I'll just take the keys away for a while....

William

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Posted: Feb 3, 2021 - 5:40pm



 JrzyTmata wrote:


 rgio wrote:


 JrzyTmata wrote:


 
I got my initial appt with a three month wait. then I found one that was only 2 months out. then I got COVID.

 
Just couldn't wait? 

"I'm gonna get those antibodies now!"

Hope all is well!

 
Vaccine by FIRE!! 


I'm doing ok. very mild symptoms so far. Buzz is also sick now.
 

Yikes. That sucks. Any idea how you were exposed?
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