Location: Perched on the precipice of the cauldron of truth
Posted:
May 12, 2021 - 8:18am
black321 wrote:
my point is, we need a different public servant.
he talks too much,
and for good and bad, has become a villain...to my point again that we need a different public servant.
someone more plain and vanilla who can just speak the facts
I differ. We need more public servants like Dr. Fauci. I have no doubts about his sincerity, integrity, or professionalism. That he has become a âvillainâ among a sizable segment of the population is a travesty.
my point is, we need a different public servant. he talks too much, and for good and bad, has become a villain...to my point again that we need a different public servant. someone more plain and vanilla who can just speak the facts
I differ. We need more public servants like Dr. Fauci. I have no doubts about his sincerity, integrity, or professionalism. That he has become a “villain” among a sizable segment of the population is a travesty.
Location: Perched on the precipice of the cauldron of truth
Posted:
May 11, 2021 - 6:17pm
black321 wrote:
There's just so many inexplicable responses to this pandemic...more than you can shake a stick at.
of course it came from a bat, don't wear a mask, wear a mask, dont wear a mask, asset bubbles, billions of wanton spending, riots, anti-vax...maybe there is a frigging cabal, because no one else seems to have a clue of how to run things.
i don't mean to besmirch his credentials, but we need to replace fauci...he seems to be relishing his post-trump role, and talks way toooo much.
I differ. We need more public servants like Dr. Fauci. I have no doubts about his sincerity, integrity, or professionalism. That he has become a âvillainâ among a sizable segment of the population is a travesty.
There's just so many inexplicable responses to this pandemic...more than you can shake a stick at. of course it came from a bat, don't wear a mask, wear a mask, dont wear a mask, asset bubbles, billions of wanton spending, riots, anti-vax...maybe there is a frigging cabal, because no one else seems to have a clue of how to run things. i don't mean to besmirch his credentials, but we need to replace fauci...he seems to be relishing his post-trump role, and talks way toooo much.
At the shop I work at, which never was closed being an "essential service provider", we are all pretty much fed up, done and over with masks. The boss / owner is a good democrat which I only mention to illustrate that this is not a partisan thing. We have all been vaccinated with Moderna since March.
We insist that you drop your mask so that you can see your entire face with the frames on and also to make sure that it fits the nose and not the mask. We have had a few people freak out over that request, but that was early on. Now, maybe a couple of times a week anymore is all. When I mention that we have all been vaccinated, every customer so far has said that they are, too.
We are of the attitude now that if you are too afraid to go outside and take off your mask if needed, then stay home or stay away. Get your glasses online.
I'm tired of spitting out mask fibers at the end of the day and during days off. My PCP has also made the same observation and wondered what we are doing to our lungs inhaling mask fibers made of god knows what being made in China, like everything else. I put on a fresh surgical mask everyday. Sometimes even change them mid day. Seems that most people just wear the same old cloth mask everyday and buy new ones rather than wash them anyway. How unhygienic is that ? What is the point if that is all that people are doing wearing masks ?
So this is a serious question. Would you shop at a place where the staff is fully vaccinated and does not wear masks ? We aren't saying that the customer has to take their's off just being here, but that we want it to be an option.
Really?... you are spitting out mask fibers every day? Even on days you aren't wearing them? Seems like an over-exaggeration but I'll play along. Then maybe you should switch to a cloth mask if you are truly worried. Just because others may not be washing them as often as they should doesn't mean you should follow suit or somehow justify that is why you aren't considering using them especially if you believe that the other masks may be a hazard to your long term health. Perhaps try and take a little control of the situation instead of being controlled by it.
Additionally if surgical masks were truly hazardous to one's long-term health would that not have come out and been addressed years ago? Doctors and operating room nurses and NICU nurses spend much of their working days/careers (pre-COVID) wearing surgical masks. If you aren't wearing masks that would be compatible to what is worn by care-givers then that situation is also correctable by you.
At this point I probably would not yet shop at a place where the help doesn't wear masks unless I was 100% sure all were fully vaccinated and I don't know how I could determine that and don't necessarily trust the "honor" system. My opinion will eventually shift... I'm just not there yet.
But the question is would you shop at a place where the staff and some customers are no longer wearing masks ?
Provided that local regulations have been adjusted to make masks completely optional.
Being in a small town, I know whether the place is likely to employ vaccinated staff and/or whether they took the pandemic seriously from the start. There are some restaurants that I had no opinion of pre-pandemic but will never get another nickel from me... if they didn't take this seriously, how am I to forget that when I consider other health department mandates for restaurants? I can't.
As far as retail/services, the same holds true but I have fewer options but the grocery store in the next town has maintained a mask mandate more successfully (among employees; customers have mostly dropped the masks everywhere). I appreciated their firmer position with masks over the past year so I feel better in supporting them now.
We quickly hit 30% fully vaccinated but have plateaued and the no-vax crew is the majority, it appears. So at some point, people have made their bed. If I were an employer I would make it a requirement; it is not sensible to risk having employees take extended sick leave when a vaccine is available, not to mention having them kill my customersâseems like a bad thing. I'd even advertise that we're fully vaxxed and (thinking of our old coffeehouse) let the competition (anti-everythingers) suck on that.
But masks were always about protecting the population in general, not myself. I'm not at significant risk of contracting or spreading much of anything, so sure, I'll get what I need and not worry.
tl;dr: Yes, unless the place is or has made a political statement against masks.
But the question is would you shop at a place where the staff and some customers are no longer wearing masks ?
Provided that local regulations have been adjusted to make masks completely optional.
I likely would, given those conditions. I've seen some posts on places like Instagram where some restaurants and shops have announced that their entire staff are fully vaccinated, etc. They still wear the masks in compliance with local mandates and all but are anticipating that they will soon be eased.
I think we're reaching the point where people either A) assume since they are vaccinated and "immune" or B) assume the risks aren't high enough for them to get a vaccine and/or wear a mask. Either way, the end of masking is near.
I don't necessarily agree with that, but assume that's what'll happen based on watching others.
My largest concern is that a variant finds a way around the vaccines while also becoming more deadly. If that happens....a lot of people are going to die assuming they'll be fine because they made it through round #1 unscathed.
"Ok! We want everyone vaccinated!" the chef tweeted Friday. "Starting tomorrow, until we reach 70% of total population anyone that comes with vaccine papers, that proves that has been vaccinated will get a $50 gift certificate for any ThinkFoodGroup restaurants in the area."
