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Steely_D

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Posted: Sep 2, 2021 - 6:51pm

I’m thinking that 1) Biden’s not perfect and not horrible 2) America is wasting SO FREAKING MUCH TIME with the petty gotchas.
America’s days as a superpower have been squandered by political idiots and TV networks that lack integrity.
Rome fell. The Ottoman Empire fell. Now it’s the USA’s turn.
Starting with the former guy who discarded plans to handle this sort of emergency, the folks who’ve left and the folks who’re in office can’t handle a legitimate medical catastrophe because they’re too busy with theIr version of the Fish Slapping Dance.



kurtster

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Posted: Sep 2, 2021 - 2:22pm

Biden's top-down booster plan sparks anger at FDA

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FDA officials are scrambling to collect and analyze data that clearly demonstrate the boosters' benefits before the administration’s Sept. 20 deadline for rolling them out to most adults. Many outside experts, and some within the agency, see uncomfortable similarities between the Biden team's top-down booster plan and former President Donald Trump's attempts to goad FDA into accelerating its initial authorization process for Covid-19 vaccines and push through unproven virus treatments.

On Tuesday, two top FDA vaccine regulators resigned — a decision that one former official said was rooted in anger over the agency’s lack of autonomy in the booster planning so far. A current health official said the pair, Marion Gruber and Philip Krause, left over differences with FDA’s top vaccine official Peter Marks. Now the agency is facing a potential mutiny among its staff and outside vaccine advisers, several of whom feel cut out of key decisions and who view the plan to offer boosters to all adults as premature and unnecessary.

 

POLITICO spoke to 11 current and former health officials and people familiar with the matter who described growing exasperation with the administration's disjointed process for implementing its booster plan. Those sources said there is little coordination between federal health agencies, even as two top FDA officials try to guide the rollout.

steeler

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Posted: Sep 2, 2021 - 12:29pm

Washington Post reporting today on a massive randomized research study in Bangladesh the results of which its authors say offer the best evidence yet that widespread wearing of surgical masks can limit the spread of the coronavirus in communities. The study tracked 340,000 adults across 600 villages in Bangladesh. The study is under peer review with the journal Science.
westslope

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Posted: Sep 2, 2021 - 10:02am

 miamizsun wrote:


as a country we seem to have peaked with this particular wave of delta

fall/winter behavior in the other parts of the country will probably change that
i hope that people will act on what is coming their way and recalibrate for possibly better outcomes

regards


So do I hope.  I sincerely hope that the 'demonstration effect' will convince more people of the seriousness of the pandemic.  Even in Canada, the prime minister during election stops is being heckled and harassed by violent anti-vaxxers and anti-maskers.

The USA has more than enough resources and expertise to manage virus variants.  Hopefully the 'people' will cooperate.  If nothing else, the Canadian economy depends on that.
miamizsun

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Posted: Sep 2, 2021 - 4:09am

 westslope wrote:


An R rate 1.93 for Ohio?    Oops. 


as a country we seem to have peaked with this particular wave of delta
fall/winter behavior in the other parts of the country will probably change that
i hope that people will act on what is coming their way and recalibrate for possibly better outcomes

regards
westslope

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Posted: Sep 1, 2021 - 7:23am

 miamizsun wrote:

good, easy to understand snapshot(s)

covidestim · COVID-19 nowcasting



An R rate 1.93 for Ohio?    Oops. 
miamizsun

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Posted: Sep 1, 2021 - 4:04am

good, easy to understand snapshot(s)

covidestim · COVID-19 nowcasting

R_P

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Posted: Aug 31, 2021 - 11:48pm

 kurtster wrote:
A personality conflict is no excuse for ignorance, or much anything else for that matter.

You just shoot all the messengers you don't like.  And tell people to trust you instead.

There are two sides (at least) to your big "duh" moment.  Not just your take.  Your authoritarian side is showing ...

I see. Subject change.
“It’ll be delivered, the vaccine, before the end of the year and, frankly, maybe even during the month of October,” Trump said Sept. 4.

At a separate event the same day, he added: “We remain on track to deliver a vaccine before the end of the year, and maybe even before November 1. We think we can probably have it sometime during the month of October.”

The president earlier in the year had said the virus would subside as temperatures warmed and pressed for a relaxation of restrictions. Instead he faced rising numbers of infection through the summer and increased criticism of his handling of the health crisis.

Yet he continued to express optimism going into the election, saying the situation was being overinflated by political opponents and the media. In August, Trump even conspiratorially suggested the “deep state” within the U.S. government might approve the vaccine right after the election — so as to damage him politically.

kurtster

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Posted: Aug 31, 2021 - 11:09pm

 R_P wrote:
 
No. They were simply stating the obvious: nothing out of Trump's mouth is worth listening to or to be trusted. Wait for experts instead.
 
A personality conflict is no excuse for ignorance, or much anything else for that matter.

You just shoot all the messengers you don't like.  And tell people to trust you instead.

There are two sides (at least) to your big "duh" moment.  Not just your take.  Your authoritarian side is showing ...
R_P

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Posted: Aug 31, 2021 - 7:27pm

 kurtster wrote:
From your rebuttal article ...

The parts that are left out make clear that Biden and Harris were raising questions not about the vaccines themselves, but about then-President Donald Trump’s rollout of the vaccines and the risk that the effort would become rushed or politicized.

Isn't that what I said ?

.
{#Ass}

No. They were simply stating the obvious: nothing out of Trump's mouth is worth listening to or to be trusted. Wait for experts instead.

kurtster

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Posted: Aug 31, 2021 - 7:18pm

 Red_Dragon wrote:
 R_P wrote:

Sounds a lot like this.

If you have no doubt, then you should be able to find it...


Don't confuse him with facts, his tiny mind is made up.
 

You both can kiss my ass.

 kurtster wrote:

Totally ignores all the endless formal democratic party opposition to any vaccine being created during Trump's tenure, with both Biden and Harris as well as other biggies such as Pelosi, Cuomo, Shumer and many others saying that they would not take any vaccine developed under Trump's authority for fears of it being unsafe due it being rushed and the high likelihood of cutting corners and insufficient clinical trials. 
 
From your rebuttal article ...

The parts that are left out make clear that Biden and Harris were raising questions not about the vaccines themselves, but about then-President Donald Trump’s rollout of the vaccines and the risk that the effort would become rushed or politicized.

Isn't that what I said ?

.
{#Ass}
Red_Dragon

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Posted: Aug 31, 2021 - 6:50pm

 R_P wrote:

Sounds a lot like this.

If you have no doubt, then you should be able to find it...


Don't confuse him with facts, his tiny mind is made up.
R_P

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Posted: Aug 31, 2021 - 6:46pm

 kurtster wrote:
Totally ignores all the endless formal democratic party opposition to any vaccine being created during Trump's tenure, with both Biden and Harris as well as other biggies such as Pelosi, Cuomo, Shumer and many others saying that they would not take any vaccine developed under Trump's authority for fears of it being unsafe due it being rushed and the high likelihood of cutting corners and insufficient clinical trials.  We heard this endlessly throughout the 2020 campaign.  They even were calling it Trump's vaccine in order to further damage any hope of it being safe let alone being accepted in the first place.  All the way up through Trump's defeat and a little while afterwards.

No doubt that you had joy in spamming this place with this negativity at the time as well.

But of course this has no bearing on anyone's hesitancy.  Right ?

Sounds a lot like this.

If you have no doubt, then you should be able to find it...
Red_Dragon

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Posted: Aug 31, 2021 - 6:01pm

 BlueHeronDruid wrote:



Only if you like being informed.


Indeed.
kurtster

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Posted: Aug 31, 2021 - 5:54pm

 R_P wrote: 
Totally ignores all the endless formal democratic party opposition to any vaccine being created during Trump's tenure, with both Biden and Harris as well as other biggies such as Pelosi, Cuomo, Shumer and many others saying that they would not take any vaccine developed under Trump's authority for fears of it being unsafe due it being rushed and the high likelihood of cutting corners and insufficient clinical trials.  We heard this endlessly throughout the 2020 campaign.  They even were calling it Trump's vaccine in order to further damage any hope of it being safe let alone being accepted in the first place.  All the way up through Trump's defeat and a little while afterwards.

No doubt that you had joy in spamming this place with this negativity at the time as well.

But of course this has no bearing on anyone's hesitancy.  Right ?
westslope

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Posted: Aug 31, 2021 - 5:33pm

 R_P wrote:
Thanks.

Pasted:

"The nature of the scientific process during a pandemic, with its unrelenting influx of new data and constantly evolving understanding of it, makes health communication incredibly challenging. That reality, combined with botched messaging from public health agencies, has emboldened vaccine opponents."

Yup.   

The terrible, evil elites are imposing 'uncertainty' on real people who cling to religion, and weird secular ideologies to steer clear of uncertainty.   That and kill people that are not understood.

BlueHeronDruid

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Posted: Aug 31, 2021 - 5:25pm

 Red_Dragon wrote:


Goddam paywall. I guess I'm going to have to breakdown and start paying for news. 




Only if you like being informed.
R_P

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Posted: Aug 31, 2021 - 3:24pm

https://archive.is/xFLyZ




Chrome/Edge/Firefox
westslope

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Posted: Aug 31, 2021 - 3:18pm

 Red_Dragon wrote:


Goddam paywall. I guess I'm going to have to breakdown and start paying for news. 


Yup, can't get it past here either.


Red_Dragon

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Posted: Aug 31, 2021 - 3:11pm

 R_P wrote:

Goddam paywall. I guess I'm going to have to breakdown and start paying for news. 
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