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Posted: Sep 16, 2021 - 9:50pm

 Red_Dragon wrote:

Also: we have a lot of vaccine going unused right now that will probably expire before the end of the year, so what the hell.
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Posted: Sep 16, 2021 - 9:09pm

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Because their big heads are why...
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Posted: Sep 16, 2021 - 5:50pm

Why Fauci and the NIH backed Covid-19 vaccine boosters before the FDA and CDC
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Posted: Sep 16, 2021 - 2:28pm

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Posted: Sep 16, 2021 - 1:27pm

In King County WA (Seattle), you're 42 times more likely to die from COVID related illness if you're unvaccinated.   


COUNTY WEBSITE LINK

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Posted: Sep 16, 2021 - 10:59am

After the rapper Nicki Minaj questioned the efficacy of the Covid-19 vaccine in a Twitter post this week, the White House confirmed on Wednesday that it had offered her a call with a doctor to answer questions about the safety of the vaccine.

(...)

Ms. Minaj appeared to believe that she was going to visit the White House. She said on Twitter on Wednesday that she would “be dressed in all pink like Legally Blonde so they know I mean business.”

“I’ll ask questions on behalf of the ppl who have been made fun of for simply being human,” she added.

On Monday, Ms. Minaj asserted that her cousin’s friend in Trinidad and Tobago “became impotent” after receiving the vaccine, a claim that nation’s minister of health, Terrence Deyalsingh, rejected.

“There has been no such reported either side effect or adverse event,” he said in a news conference online. “And what was sad about this is that it wasted our time yesterday, trying to track down, because we take all these claims seriously, whether it’s on social media or mainstream media.”

westslope

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Posted: Sep 16, 2021 - 9:30am

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Hyperbole, you seem to think that 150,000 people are going to die unless they get their multiple injections.

I worked in finance for decades this is no different than a pump and dump stock

.....



Dear SPAMMER:    You worked in finance!?!!   You mean that you are numerate as well as literate?    

Let me see.... your time in finance gave you enough confidence and arrogance so you now believe that you are smarter than most health professionals and epidemiologists.   Yet, you seem incapable of reading the history of other pandemics and contagious diseases.

You treat everybody here on this forum as if they are American reality TV show participants.    Why is a super-smart ex finance guy like yourself so anti-data?

And in answer to your question, yes, I believe that multiple injections of SARS2 virus vaccine will radically reduce the probability of sickness and death.   Masking and distancing will reduce the probability of transmission in some contexts.  



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Posted: Sep 16, 2021 - 9:25am

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Furthermore, when Biden said that he speaks for all the vaccinated and says that we are angry with the unvaccinated that is not true.  Yes, I am vaccinated with the considerations mentioned above.  I am not angry with the unvaccinated, for the same reasons above.  It is 100% a personal decision.     - That there is pretty naive, wishful thinking.  Can I personally decide whether to get drafted, or where my tax $ go? Gov has control in many areas of our lives, usually with the intended benefit to overall society. If it only impacted you (like an abortion, or a decision to not get cancer treatment) sure...but obviously that is false. Vaccinations help society. 

The government does not own our bodies. The government will not be held responsible for anything that goes wrong with the vaccine and the vaccine makers are also totally immunized by laws that prevent any liability claims against them, too.  No one is able to be held accountable for any intended or unintended consequences, well except for employers who are forced to make their employees comply with the government order that the employer must follow.  The employer becomes the liable party.  Are you with me on this still, counselor ?  Do I have anything wrong ?   -Actually most companies would be happy with a mandate (which we still dont have)...most want or require vaccinations, so it's shifts the responsibility to the gov. 




p.s. over 660,000 have succumbed to covid...1 in 500.
#3 cause of death in 2020, and with over 300K cases so far this year, likely to hold in 2021.
I think we can conservatively say each of us at least know someone who knew someone who passed. 

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Posted: Sep 15, 2021 - 8:49pm

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No one is able to be held accountable for any intended or unintended consequences, well except for employers who are forced to make their employees comply with the government order that the employer must follow. The employer becomes the liable party.

Evil gov at work!
One of the invitees to the meeting, Tim Boyle, the chief executive of Columbia Sportswear, said in an interview on Wednesday that his company had drafted a policy mandating vaccines months ago. But it had held off carrying it out until Mr. Biden announced last week that he was directing the Labor Department to issue an emergency safety declaration that would effectively function as a vaccine mandate for tens of millions of workers. Columbia Sportswear told its workers that it will put a vaccine requirement in place next week.

Mr. Boyle said Columbia was concerned that by acting alone it would risk losing as many as half of its workers in distribution centers and retail stores. Mr. Biden’s order, he said, reduced the risk that workers who don’t want to get vaccinated would quit to work elsewhere.

“There’s much less opportunity for people to go somewhere they don’t need to be vaccinated,” he said.

Mr. Boyle said vaccinations had divided Columbia’s work force. Managers in its Portland, Ore., headquarters have largely embraced the shots, he said, but retail and warehouse workers throughout the country have been more reluctant. He said that hesitancy had hurt the company, with infections and the threat of infection forcing closures and cleanings of locations.

“Those operations are predicated on people working together closely,” he said. Having unvaccinated workers is “highly disruptive.”

Several of the business leaders who met with Mr. Biden have installed mandates already, for at least part of their work force, including Disney, Walgreens and Children’s Hospital of Philadelphia.

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Posted: Sep 15, 2021 - 7:47pm

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The link to shunning was not in the original article and was not necessary. (...)

Not your decision. It ties in with the highlighted sentence. I could also have linked to another one I read.

And I don't particularly care what they do.

They seem to keep to themselves and don't strike me as evangelical. They're just bringing it upon themselves. And as such, can't be considered good role models.
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Posted: Sep 15, 2021 - 7:38pm

Moved from the other thread

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 Red_Dragon wrote:
 kurtster wrote:
Red_Dragon wrote:

Yes, one wonders.
 
Yes and what are you capable of wondering about other than Wonder Bread ?

That alone is some pretty heavy lifting for someone of your capabilities.


A lame retort straight out of fifth-grade. Congratulations.
 
Just keeping it at a level you can understand.
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Posted: Sep 15, 2021 - 7:36pm

Moved from the other thread.

steeler wrote:

You should add, for the benefit of CTM and his understanding of the alleged group think, that you chose to get vaccinated.

 
Yes, I did choose to get vaccinated, but only after some very careful thought and considerations, especially which one to get.

But only after considering that I am too old to worry about things like long term side affects, infertility and how there might be birth defects to successive generations.  Remember flipper babies ?  You're old enough to.  Yeah, they were my first thought.  If I was under 50 with another 20 to 30 years left to live, I would be hesitant.  If I was under 40, I would be especially hesitant with the thought of unknown generational side affects in addition to fertility.  FWIW, the decline in male sperm count has been falling globally and dramatically over the past 30 years.  One can argue over why, but not that it is not happening.

Furthermore, when Biden said that he speaks for all the vaccinated and says that we are angry with the unvaccinated that is not true.  Yes, I am vaccinated with the considerations mentioned above.  I am not angry with the unvaccinated, for the same reasons above.  It is 100% a personal decision. 

The government does not own our bodies. The government will not be held responsible for anything that goes wrong with the vaccine and the vaccine makers are also totally immunized by laws that prevent any liability claims against them, too.  No one is able to be held accountable for any intended or unintended consequences, well except for employers who are forced to make their employees comply with the government order that the employer must follow.  The employer becomes the liable party.  Are you with me on this still, counselor ?  Do I have anything wrong ?

The nefariousness of this mandate is out in the open for everyone to see, should they wish to.

Lastly, Biden has made it crystal clear that only citizens must be vaccinated by Psaki's admission that they have absolutely no intention of vaccinating any of the illegals coming over the southern border.  That was the direct answer to a direct question.  If public safety was truly behind all of this, the illegals would be vaccinated on the spot, before even beginning processing.  Nope, not even a thought and not even an attempt to deny it.  I find this as a direct insult to my intelligence. 

And as you said yourself, you are not concerned about the safety of these vaccines.  Fine. But just because you say so does not mean that no one else should be worried.  Unless you claim to speak for everyone like Biden does.

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Posted: Sep 15, 2021 - 7:33pm

 R_P wrote:
 kurtster wrote:
That is your excuse for mocking them ?

There is no mocking. It's factual. As far as I'm concerned they are bad role models.
 
The link to shunning was not in the original article and was not necessary.  You could have also mentioned that they do not like to be photographed either.  Neither of these two facts are unique to the Amish culture.

They may not be good role models for modern medicine, but it is not their intention.  They seek to only influence themselves.

Remember what Charles Barkley said about being a role model ?
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Posted: Sep 15, 2021 - 7:16pm

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That is your excuse for mocking them ?

There is no mocking. It's factual.

As far as I'm concerned they are bad role models too.

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Posted: Sep 15, 2021 - 7:14pm

 R_P wrote:
 kurtster wrote:
They are good people. Leave them the fuck alone.

CTM brought them up as role models.
 
That is your excuse for mocking them ?
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Posted: Sep 15, 2021 - 7:13pm

 kurtster wrote:
They are good people. Leave them the fuck alone.

CTM brought them up as role models.
kurtster

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Posted: Sep 15, 2021 - 7:10pm

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:
 kurtster wrote:
But only after considering ..., infertility ... fertility. FWIW, the decline in male sperm count has been falling globally and dramatically over the past 30 years. One can argue over why, but not that it is not happening.

Baseline median sperm concentration and TMSC were 26 million/mL (IQR, 19.5-34) and 36 million (IQR, 18-51), respectively. After the second vaccine dose, the median sperm concentration significantly increased to 30 million/mL (IQR, 21.5-40.5; P = .02) and the median TMSC to 44 million (IQR, 27.5-98; P = .001). Semen volume and sperm motility also significantly increased .
Eight of the 45 men were oligospermic before the vaccine (median concentration, 8.5 million/mL). Of these 8, 7 men had increased sperm concentration to normozoospermic range at follow-up (median concentration, 22 million/mL), and 1 man remained oligospermic. No man became azoospermic after the vaccine.
Link
 
Ok.  Number one, this is very recent and obviously not well known by the general public

and Two as they state themselves in this "Research Letter" this is very limited.

While these results showed statistically significant increases in all sperm parameters, the magnitude of change is within normal individual variation and may be influenced by regression to the mean.5 Additionally, the increase may be due to the increased abstinence time before the second sample. Men with oligospermia did not experience further decline.

The limitations of the study include the small number of men enrolled; limited generalizability beyond young, healthy men; short follow-up; and lack of a control group. In addition, while semen analysis is the foundation of male fertility evaluation, it is an imperfect predictor of fertility potential. Despite this, the study’s time frame encompasses the full life cycle of sperm.

It's a beginning and encouraging, but one could hardly call it conclusive.
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Posted: Sep 15, 2021 - 6:59pm

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The Amish communities of northeast Ohio engage in textbook communal living. Families eat, work and go to church together, and through the pandemic, mask-wearing and social distancing have been spotty. As a result, these communities have experienced some of the state's highest rates of infection and deaths.

Nevertheless, health officials are struggling to get residents vaccinated. Holmes County, where half of the population is Amish, has the lowest vaccination rate in Ohio, with just 10% of its roughly 44,000 residents fully vaccinated.

Less than 1% of Amish have received any doses of vaccine, according to Michael Derr, the county's health commissioner.

In an effort to increase that number, health officials are holding vaccination clinics in rural areas. They've also reached out to bishops and community leaders to spread the word about the safety of the vaccines. Still, few Amish residents are showing up to the health department's clinics.

Marcus Yoder, who lives in Holmes County, was born Amish and is now Mennonite and still has close ties to the Amish community. He says the few Amish who are getting vaccinated are doing so privately through doctors' offices and small rural clinics – and they are keeping it to themselves. (...)
For fear of shunning?
 
So now you're an expert on the Amish ?  Tell me and the rest of us some more that we all need to know.

I live in Northeast Ohio adjacent to Amish country and have had a few jobs that took my commute right through it.  Along with looking out for buggies on the road 24 / 7.  I have attended communal dinners in their homes. 

Tell me more things that you would mock them for.  Them being backwards God fearing people who don't know nothing about anything.  At least stuff you consider important.

Know this though.  They are self sufficient.  They live free and die free.  Another thing they shun is government money and the strings that comes with it.  Oh and when it comes to organic farming ... few do it better.  Amish raised food and livestock is simply wonderful beyond description.

They are good people.  Leave them the fuck alone.
ScottFromWyoming

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Posted: Sep 15, 2021 - 6:18pm

 kurtster wrote:
But only after considering ..., infertility ... fertility. FWIW, the decline in male sperm count has been falling globally and dramatically over the past 30 years. One can argue over why, but not that it is not happening.

Baseline median sperm concentration and TMSC were 26 million/mL (IQR, 19.5-34) and 36 million (IQR, 18-51), respectively. After the second vaccine dose, the median sperm concentration significantly increased to 30 million/mL (IQR, 21.5-40.5; P = .02) and the median TMSC to 44 million (IQR, 27.5-98; P = .001). Semen volume and sperm motility also significantly increased .
Eight of the 45 men were oligospermic before the vaccine (median concentration, 8.5 million/mL ). Of these 8, 7 men had increased sperm concentration to normozoospermic range at follow-up (median concentration, 22 million/mL ), and 1 man remained oligospermic. No man became azoospermic after the vaccine.
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