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Posted: Mar 10, 2020 - 10:07pm

black321 wrote:
We live in a just-in-time world. Most grocers have about 3-days worth of inventory...if there was a 'crisis'towns and cities  would run out of food pretty quick. One of the problems of living in an 'efficient' society. 

Kinda. Grocery stores also have warehouses and wholesalers. If absolutely nothing is moving (even across town) then yeah, the shelves could be bare in a couple of days, but that's a pretty extreme situation.
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Posted: Mar 10, 2020 - 10:04pm



 ScottFromWyoming wrote:


 KurtfromLaQuinta wrote:

 



I don't get the bottled water thing either. 
 It's the new drug.  

Not to mention all that plastic.

Scott... I think I could live without paper towels for awhile too. Inconvenient again.
I have enough terry cloth towels to cycle through very easily for quite a while.
Even if I have to beat them on a rock with soapy water to get them clean.
Just think how much I'll save the Earth on that deal.


KurtfromLaQuinta

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Posted: Mar 10, 2020 - 10:00pm



 black321 wrote:


 KurtfromLaQuinta wrote:


 black321 wrote:


 

We live in a just-in-time world. Most grocers have about 3-days worth of inventory...if there was a 'crisis'towns and cities  would run out of food pretty quick. One of the problems of living in an 'efficient' society. 
 
You'd think food would be more important in a crisis situation.
I think I'm smart enough to figure out how to survive easily on my own for quite awhile. I'm sure they're people here that are smarter than me. Yes?
Toilet paper... really?
For cryin' out loud... there's lots of ways to deal with that simple problem. Inconvenient? Sure. Life or death? Really?
We're always concerned about earthquakes around these parts.
Water can be an issue. Maybe. We have over 50 swimming pools in my neighborhood.
I have buckets. I have pots and pans. I have a nice barbecue with lots of firewood. I can boil water all day long if I needed it.
And that would be a severe problem. When something bad happens, utilities are fixed within a few days of a disaster.
Am I concerned about this virus? Yes. Just as much as I am about getting the flu.
And I haven't had that in years.
Now where is that wood? Knock. Knock.

ScottFromWyoming

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Posted: Mar 10, 2020 - 9:51pm



 KurtfromLaQuinta wrote:

Why the paper towel hoarding?
 

Things you don't want to run out of. Food, yes. But paper products too. If someone in your house is ill, you don't want to use the ol' terrycloth hand towel for a week. Use paper and throw it out. If you've never really counted how much of those things you use, your guess might be wildly off. But the stuff doesn't go bad, so might as well get 50% more than your worst case scenario, right? So anyway it isn't that you're worried about not being able to find any, later (Costco is working overtime to refill from their distribution points so I think this will run its course sooner than the virus), they're just worried about having enough on hand in case they self-quarantine for a month.

I don't get the bottled water thing either. 
KurtfromLaQuinta

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Posted: Mar 10, 2020 - 9:44pm



 R_P wrote:
 KurtfromLaQuinta wrote:
What would happen if there was truly a crises here?
 
So no current crisis?
 Are you buying pallets of toilet paper?


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Posted: Mar 10, 2020 - 8:39pm



 R_P wrote:
 

So hard to get our heads around closing schools. Matter of pride etc. I don't interact with the public much or often, but I'm wondering how to decide when to pull my kids. We're out in the hinterlands, but that actually means a lot of us travel in confined metal tubes quite often...

Here's a rundown on Italy's situation â€¢ 
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Posted: Mar 10, 2020 - 7:35pm

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Posted: Mar 10, 2020 - 6:12pm

 ScottN wrote:

I'm in O'Hare changing planes. Nobody is traveling...the place is eerily quiet.  No need to stand in any lines.
Big, big difference over my O'Hare transit in Feb.
 
The wife flies home Thurs night on the red eye changing planes at SFO.  Then going to do a turn around and leave to return to SoCal next Thursday.  Going to start looking for a one way ticket shortly and try to take a different route, hopefully through Vegas.  They tend to keep McCarran pretty tidy.
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Posted: Mar 10, 2020 - 5:35pm

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Posted: Mar 10, 2020 - 2:54pm



 haresfur wrote:


 cc_rider wrote:


 ScottFromWyoming wrote:


 Red_Dragon wrote:
 

It's pure cotton and gets carried in pants. Not washing your hands after handling bills is roughly equivalent to fondling raspy's undershorts then going for a sandwich.
 Okay, not the image I wanted in my head this morning.

But yeah, didn't some lab swab a bunch of bills from circulation, and found all manner of bad stuff on them? I'm pretty sure hand-washing after handling money is already a required food-safety procedure (in the US anyway).
c.


 
Yeah right. The number of times I've been in a takeout place here or the US where the person assembling your food, wearing plastic gloves, pauses to take your money without taking their gloves off...

 

It's like the admonition to not touch your face... only causes people to touch their face more often.
haresfur

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Posted: Mar 10, 2020 - 2:29pm



 KurtfromLaQuinta wrote:


 black321 wrote:
Supermarkets are now rationing many staples, and looking for new ways to service the demands of self-isolating consumers. Delivery sales, which were only about 4% of sales, are rising. 
There's going to be pain for a lot of borderline retailers, smaller regional chains...
 

I went to Costco yesterday to get some paper towels. Mind you... this was just getting some because we were running out.
I was shocked, SHOCKED at the paranoid people buying toilet paper, paper towels and bottled water by carts (plural) full!
They ran out of bottled water in the 5 minutes I was there... right after they opened!
So explain to me: does corona virus cause massive amounts of diarrhea where you need to hoard toilet paper? Why the paper towel hoarding?
And don't get me started on the bottled water.
What would happen if there was truly a crises here?
Really?
 
To put the best light on it, people don't tend to keep a prudent amount of supplies on hand until they are confronted with a crisis then try to fix it and often over-react. Also, people need to feel like they are doing something about a problem so they don't feel helpless. That's not entirely a bad thing until they go overboard or start fighting over TP.

Yeah, I made sure I had a modest stash of things in case I get stuck inside for a couple of weeks. Had a friend stuck in self-quarantine after returning from Italy. Luckily he made the trip without his partner so she moved out and was able to pitch supplies over the fence to him (ok, actually she left them at the door).
haresfur

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Posted: Mar 10, 2020 - 2:22pm



 cc_rider wrote:


 ScottFromWyoming wrote:


 Red_Dragon wrote:
 

It's pure cotton and gets carried in pants. Not washing your hands after handling bills is roughly equivalent to fondling raspy's undershorts then going for a sandwich.
 Okay, not the image I wanted in my head this morning.

But yeah, didn't some lab swab a bunch of bills from circulation, and found all manner of bad stuff on them? I'm pretty sure hand-washing after handling money is already a required food-safety procedure (in the US anyway).
c.


 
Yeah right. The number of times I've been in a takeout place here or the US where the person assembling your food, wearing plastic gloves, pauses to take your money without taking their gloves off...

haresfur

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Posted: Mar 10, 2020 - 2:20pm



 ScottFromWyoming wrote:


 Red_Dragon wrote:
 

It's pure cotton and gets carried in pants. Not washing your hands after handling bills is roughly equivalent to fondling raspy's undershorts then going for a sandwich.
 

Money? You mean that stuff you see people carry in old movies? I'm liking my fitbit pay.

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Posted: Mar 10, 2020 - 12:59pm

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rgio

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Posted: Mar 10, 2020 - 12:49pm



 KurtfromLaQuinta wrote:


 black321 wrote:
Supermarkets are now rationing many staples, and looking for new ways to service the demands of self-isolating consumers. Delivery sales, which were only about 4% of sales, are rising. 
There's going to be pain for a lot of borderline retailers, smaller regional chains...
 

I went to Costco yesterday to get some paper towels. Mind you... this was just getting some because we were running out.
I was shocked, SHOCKED at the paranoid people buying toilet paper, paper towels and bottled water by carts (plural) full!
They ran out of bottled water in the 5 minutes I was there... right after they opened!
So explain to me: does corona virus cause massive amounts of diarrhea where you need to hoard toilet paper? Why the paper towel hoarding?
And don't get me started on the bottled water.
What would happen if there was truly a crises here?
Really?
 
Bottled water...don't get it.
Paper towels?  No idea.

Toilet paper...Not something I want to do without. 

Logic tells you not to worry....they'll be plenty...but logic isn't always a self-serving way to make decisions.  If every idiot in your town thinks they need 6 months of toilet paper instead of the 6 weeks they normally have on hand when buying at Costco, then Costco will sell 4X the normal amount of TP.  If you run leaner...2 weeks of inventory, then you start wondering if you have to join the panic.  Add in the fact that the entire country is at risk (unlike a natural disaster or storm), and the mind wanders into all types of crazy scenarios.

I'm not a gun person, but having seen how people reacted during superstorm Sandy, civilization is always about 3 days away from chaos.  I ended up driving 5-gallon gas cans to friends and co-workers in the worst-hit areas, and I could have sold them for $50 or $100 each.  In the time it took to transfer 10 cans to a friend, I had 4 people stop and ask if I was selling it.  I filled them up 20 miles away without waiting...my area wasn't impacted.  That week around here...people were running for empty gas cans the moment Home Depot opened at 6am.

Scenarios like these require intelligent, trustworthy leadership.  Electing a President shouldn't be only about abortion and the second amendment, it needs to include some trust in times of great distress and chaos, and prioritization of having teams in place to address the issues immediately when needed.  Political "yes men" without the experience and skills needed to solve complex problems are going to get a lot of people killed someday... 

black321

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Posted: Mar 10, 2020 - 12:26pm



 KurtfromLaQuinta wrote:


 black321 wrote:
Supermarkets are now rationing many staples, and looking for new ways to service the demands of self-isolating consumers. Delivery sales, which were only about 4% of sales, are rising. 
There's going to be pain for a lot of borderline retailers, smaller regional chains...
 

I went to Costco yesterday to get some paper towels. Mind you... this was just getting some because we were running out.
I was shocked, SHOCKED at the paranoid people buying toilet paper, paper towels and bottled water by carts (plural) full!
They ran out of bottled water in the 5 minutes I was there... right after they opened!
So explain to me: does corona virus cause massive amounts of diarrhea where you need to hoard toilet paper? Why the paper towel hoarding?
And don't get me started on the bottled water.
What would happen if there was truly a crises here?
Really?
 

We live in a just-in-time world. Most grocers have about 3-days worth of inventory...if there was a 'crisis'towns and cities  would run out of food pretty quick. One of the problems of living in an 'efficient' society. 
R_P

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Posted: Mar 10, 2020 - 12:16pm

 KurtfromLaQuinta wrote:
What would happen if there was truly a crises here?
 
So no current crisis?
KurtfromLaQuinta

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Location: Really deep in the heart of South California
Gender: Male


Posted: Mar 10, 2020 - 12:06pm



 black321 wrote:
Supermarkets are now rationing many staples, and looking for new ways to service the demands of self-isolating consumers. Delivery sales, which were only about 4% of sales, are rising. 
There's going to be pain for a lot of borderline retailers, smaller regional chains...
 

I went to Costco yesterday to get some paper towels. Mind you... this was just getting some because we were running out.
I was shocked, SHOCKED at the paranoid people buying toilet paper, paper towels and bottled water by carts (plural) full!
They ran out of bottled water in the 5 minutes I was there... right after they opened!
So explain to me: does corona virus cause massive amounts of diarrhea where you need to hoard toilet paper? Why the paper towel hoarding?
And don't get me started on the bottled water.
What would happen if there was truly a crises here?
Really?
Red_Dragon

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Posted: Mar 10, 2020 - 11:16am

Governor of New York has activated the National Guard
black321

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Posted: Mar 10, 2020 - 11:10am



 rgio wrote:


 black321 wrote:
I wonder, why aren't the airports taking passenger temperatures yet? 
 
It's not an effective way to identify the virus, as it takes 2 to 10 days for the first signs to appear post-infection.  It also has the potential to create panic (the guy in front of me....) and falsely trap healthy people (I just ran from Terminal B...).    What do you do with the people who are running hot in the middle of your airport?  Even if you catch them outside....they've been in line next to all of the others.

These things are really hard to stop unless you isolate everyone for 2 weeks.
 
sounds reasonable.
I also wonder if they are taking steps to clean those dirty security tray bins.  
And yes, i am flying soon. 

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