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Posted: Jul 11, 2020 - 8:12am

One might wonder why Peter Navarro, a trade and economic adviser, is a point person on a campaign to get the FDA to reverse its position on emergency use of hydroxychloroquine to treat Covid-19. Could it be that this is a political issue for the White House? (And other noted medical experts like Rudy Giuliani and Laura Ingraham also are part of this campaigN).

Seems to me this is a microcosm of why our response  to the virus is faltering/failing.

From today’s Washington Post


White House trade adviser Peter Navarro is leading a Trump administration effort to demand the Food and Drug Administration reverse course and grant a second emergency authorization for the antimalarial drug hydroxychloroquine to treat covid-19, the disease caused by the coronavirus.

Navarro, armed with a new study that he says shows the drug’s effectiveness, is being cheered on by President Trump, who has long touted the drug as a “game changer” and even used it himself as a possible preventive measure. Trump praised the study on Twitter this week, urging the FDA to “Act Now.” The campaign also has been promoted by Rudolph W. Giuliani, the president’s lawyer, and Laura Ingraham’s show on Fox News.

But Navarro, an economist known more for his aggressive approach to trade issues and China policy than for his medical credentials, faces serious challenges as he denounces what he calls “media-induced hydroxy hysteria.” Scientists have widely criticized the new study, by Detroit’s Henry Ford Health System, as flawed. In addition, just weeks ago the FDA revoked its emergency authorization for hydroxychloroquine after major studies found the medication wasn’t effective for covid-19. And the unexpected revival of a politically fraught issue comes as FDA Commissioner Stephen M. Hahn tries to shake off criticism he sometimes seems overly deferential to Trump.

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Posted: Jul 11, 2020 - 8:11am

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:
A memory care facility in Montana is 100% positive and at least 2/3 of the staff as well. The National Guard is coming to help where they can. I know two of the residents.
 
sorry to hear this scott
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Posted: Jul 11, 2020 - 5:42am

A memory care facility in Montana is 100% positive and at least 2/3 of the staff as well. The National Guard is coming to help where they can. I know two of the residents.
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Posted: Jul 10, 2020 - 5:37pm

Gov. Abbott didn’t listen to coronavirus warnings and Texans died
When Luther reopened her Salon a la Mode in Dallas in violation of Abbott’s own order and publicly tore up a court order before TV cameras and an adoring crowd, the governor not only rushed to her defense but also accelerated his efforts to allow all hair salons to reopen ahead of gathering data about health impacts.

Hidalgo and other county and city leaders across the state were meanwhile getting steamrolled by Abbott’s superseding orders even as they begged for the authority to mandate masks and reopen more cautiously, moves that Abbott is now being forced to implement.

Abbott’s backpedaling and his acquiescence to the social distancing rebels hollering tyranny propelled him down a path to a reckless reopening of the state while downplaying the COVID-19 threat and suggesting crucial guidance on things such as wearing a mask, social-distancing and avoiding large crowds could be ignored on grounds of “personal liberty” or political fealty.

This is more than a case of a politician just doing what politicians do. This isn’t the same as impeding local leaders who want to ban plastic bags or clownishly calling the Texas State Guard to monitor a federal military exercise because some right-wing conspiracy theorists on the internet were convinced Jade Helm 15 sounded like a government plot to take their guns.

Abbott’s actions this time led to widespread sickness and hundreds of deaths.

The state’s top executive, elected to represent all Texans, chose to pander to the Republican base and curry favor with President Trump, who lauded the “fantastic job” he was doing getting Texas back up and running so quickly.

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Posted: Jul 10, 2020 - 4:02pm




Dr Fauci last briefed Trump two months ago, as the top expert admits he has reputation to not ‘sugar-coat’ information




Dr Anthony Fauci, the nation’s top infectious disease expert, has not briefed President Donald Trump in the past two months about the coronavirus pandemic, as cases surge in parts of the US.

Early on in the pandemic, the president would meet with Dr Fauci and the White House Coronavirus Task Force multiple times per week.

The task force also held daily press briefings in March and April, which Mr Trump would often attend, before abruptly ending them.

But in an interview with the Financial Times, Dr Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, said his communications with the president have since drifted off.

He last met in-person with Mr Trump on 2 June. Additionally, Dr Fauci said it’s been at least two months since he briefed the president, but he’s “sure” his messages are being passed on.

Distance between the president and his top infectious disease expert could be due to Dr Fauci’s outspokenness about the seriousness of the pandemic and how it very much still remains a problem across the country.

Dr Fauci was asked about Mr Trump’s recent false claim that 99 per cent of COVID-19 cases are harmless, which he then debunked.

“I’m trying to figure out where the president got that number,” Dr Fauci said. “What I think happened is that someone told him that the general mortality is about 1 per cent. And he interpreted, therefore, that 99 per cent is not a problem, when that’s obviously not the case.”

He added the confusion about the virus across the country could be because of how broadly it affects people – with some completely asymptomatic while others are severely ill in the hospital.

“I have never seen a virus or any pathogen that has such a broad range of manifestations,” he said. “Even if it doesn’t kill you, even if it doesn’t put you in the hospital, it can make you seriously ill.”

Reports surfaced recently about the White House attempting to prevent Dr Fauci from speaking in television interviews as of late. The expert credited that to his “reputation”.

“I have a reputation, as you probably have figured out, of speaking the truth at all times and not sugar-coating things. And that maybe one of the reasons why I haven’t been on television very much lately,” he said.




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Posted: Jul 10, 2020 - 2:12pm

 black321 wrote:
I totally agree with 
, but the whole dont wear a mask thing at the onset was absolutely foolish (yeah, i know about the scarcity of PPE issue, but a handkerchief could have been recommended). 
 
Possibly, but then there would still be the issue of it only being a recommendation. Easily ignored.
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Posted: Jul 10, 2020 - 1:53pm

Dozens of Mississippi lawmakers have coronavirus after weeks of refusing to wear masks
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Posted: Jul 10, 2020 - 1:11pm

I totally agree with , but the whole dont wear a mask thing at the onset was absolutely foolish (yeah, i know about the scarcity of PPE issue, but a handkerchief could have been recommended). 
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Posted: Jul 10, 2020 - 12:27pm


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Posted: Jul 10, 2020 - 12:01pm


hmmm...
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Posted: Jul 10, 2020 - 12:00pm



 R_P wrote:
 
Glad to know the Texas Republican Committee has already filed suit against the City of Houston. That'll show 'em!
c.

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Posted: Jul 10, 2020 - 11:57am



 oldviolin wrote:


 buddy wrote:


 kurtster wrote:

If I had to pick a turning point when it all started to reverse, it would be when we started to hyphenate American.
 
I hear you, but America is the melting pot of the world, so some accommodations may be appropriate, at least for awhile.

 
So Mongrel-American is cool?

  
When someone asks, I say  "I'm a Mutt."


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Posted: Jul 10, 2020 - 11:50am

‘All the Hospitals Are Full’: In Houston, Overwhelmed ICUs Leave COVID-19 Patients Waiting in ERs
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Posted: Jul 10, 2020 - 9:50am



 buddy wrote:


 kurtster wrote:

If I had to pick a turning point when it all started to reverse, it would be when we started to hyphenate American.
 
I hear you, but America is the melting pot of the world, so some accommodations may be appropriate, at least for awhile.

 
So Mongrel-American is cool?

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Posted: Jul 10, 2020 - 9:05am



 kurtster wrote:

If I had to pick a turning point when it all started to reverse, it would be when we started to hyphenate American.
 

When do you imagine that to have started?

Hyphenated American




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Posted: Jul 10, 2020 - 5:45am

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Pride is certainly relative and contextual.  However I would say that we could all do with a lot less pride of culture if it is manifest in such a manner as to promote divisiveness.  I am neither proud or ashamed to be an American, I just am.   As Americans we are much too diverse to be one or the other and I suppose I am proud of that fact.
 
If I had to pick a turning point when it all started to reverse, it would be when we started to hyphenate American.
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Posted: Jul 10, 2020 - 5:21am

 steeler wrote:


 sirdroseph wrote:


 steeler wrote:
Looking at the rising death totals and explosion of new Covid-19 cases tonight, it is near impossible to take pride in being an American. This is an abomination. Americans pride themselves on being individualistic. There should not be any confusion. We are where we are because of selfishness. No pride in that. Absolutely none. Only shame.
 

There is such a thing as the irrational belief in American exceptionalism, but there is also another side of the coin to this.  Americans are certainly not exceptional, but we are also certainly not inferior and  immoral based solely upon our nationality. No one is no matter where they are from.  There are plenty of racist, bigots and nationalist all over the world who feel that some are superior and others are inferior based solely on physical characteristics or nationality.  Not a club I would want to be a part of.    You can be disappointed in idiots and scared, I get that,  but methinks you are being a bit dramatic with the anti American self loathing.   Want to know what is also irrational?  Feeling shame for the actions and behavior of others, an advantage of being individualistic is you are not burdened by such things.  Be someone that you will not be ashamed of and you should feel no shame.  You cannot and should not try to control others, only show them by example and hope they also take up a path to  enlightenment and compassion.


 
Then, correspondingly, one would not or should not take pride in being an American. 

 
Pride is certainly relative and contextual.  However I would say that we could all do with a lot less pride of culture if it is manifest in such a manner as to promote divisiveness.  I am neither proud or ashamed to be an American, I just am.   As Americans we are much too diverse to be one or the other and I suppose I am proud of that fact.
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Posted: Jul 10, 2020 - 5:13am



 sirdroseph wrote:


 steeler wrote:
Looking at the rising death totals and explosion of new Covid-19 cases tonight, it is near impossible to take pride in being an American. This is an abomination. Americans pride themselves on being individualistic. There should not be any confusion. We are where we are because of selfishness. No pride in that. Absolutely none. Only shame.
 

There is such a thing as the irrational belief in American exceptionalism, but there is also another side of the coin to this.  Americans are certainly not exceptional, but we are also certainly not inferior and  immoral based solely upon our nationality. No one is no matter where they are from.  There are plenty of racist, bigots and nationalist all over the world who feel that some are superior and others are inferior based solely on physical characteristics or nationality.  Not a club I would want to be a part of.    You can be disappointed in idiots and scared, I get that,  but methinks you are being a bit dramatic with the anti American self loathing.   Want to know what is also irrational?  Feeling shame for the actions and behavior of others, an advantage of being individualistic is you are not burdened by such things.  Be someone that you will not be ashamed of and you should feel no shame.  You cannot and should not try to control others, only show them by example and hope they also take up a path to  enlightenment and compassion.




 
Then, correspondingly, one would not or should not take pride in being an American. 

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Posted: Jul 10, 2020 - 5:11am

 kurtster wrote:

{#Yes}
 
I could have just simply said; I assure you Americans hold no monopoly on selfishness and left it at that, but sometime da herb steers you down the long overdrawn trail of the overly loquacious.{#Cowboy}
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Posted: Jul 10, 2020 - 4:57am

 sirdroseph wrote:


 steeler wrote:
Looking at the rising death totals and explosion of new Covid-19 cases tonight, it is near impossible to take pride in being an American. This is an abomination. Americans pride themselves on being individualistic. There should not be any confusion. We are where we are because of selfishness. No pride in that. Absolutely none. Only shame.
 

There is such a thing as the irrational belief in American exceptionalism, but there is also another side of the coin to this.  Americans are certainly not exceptional, but we are also certainly not inferior and  immoral based solely upon our nationality. No one is no matter where they are from.  There are plenty of racist, bigots and nationalist all over the world who feel that some are superior and others are inferior based solely on physical characteristics or nationality.  Not a club I would want to be a part of.    You can be disappointed in idiots and scared, I get that,  but methinks you are being a bit dramatic with the anti American self loathing.   Want to know what is also irrational?  Feeling shame for the actions and behavior of others, an advantage of being individualistic is you are not burdened by such things.  Be someone that you will not be ashamed of and you should feel no shame.  You cannot and should not try to control others, only show them by example and hope they also take up a path to  enlightenment and compassion.


 
{#Yes}
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