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westslope

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Posted: Mar 5, 2020 - 12:34pm

This is a stretch......
 
If Elizabeth Warren can convince Joe Biden to move in her policy direction and as a result, she backs Biden, then I believe Sanders is done. 

Though to Sanders' credit, he appears to have  had a lasting policy influence on the Democratic Party.

Question:  If Biden is the candidate, will he propose Warren as Vice-President?
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Posted: Mar 5, 2020 - 11:53am

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/04/opinion/bernie-biden-happy-warrior.html?algo=top_conversion&fellback=false&imp_id=165453812&imp_id=994770766&action=click&module=trending&pgtype=Article&region=Footer

Bernie Angry. Bernie Smash!

Forget the Happy Warrior. Enter the Crabby Warrior.

Jennifer Finney Boylan

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Posted: Mar 2, 2020 - 11:51am

 black321 wrote:
But where's Flavor Flav? Not feeling the bern.
 
Probably still high as a kite...
When reached for comment, Chuck D sent the following statement to Billboard: "Flavor chooses to dance for his money and not do benevolent work like this. He has a year to get his act together and get himself straight or he’s out."

In his own statement, a lawyer for Chuck D added, "From a legal standpoint, Chuck could perform as Public Enemy if he ever wanted to; he is the sole owner of the Public Enemy trademark. He originally drew the logo himself in the mid-80’s, is also the creative visionary and the group’s primary songwriter, having written Flavor’s most memorable lines.”

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Posted: Mar 2, 2020 - 11:27am

But where's Flavor Flav? Not feeling the bern.
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Posted: Mar 2, 2020 - 10:21am


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Posted: Feb 29, 2020 - 2:55pm

P.E. worth seeing... but c'mon now, socialism has NEVER worked. NEVER!!!!!!!!!!!

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Posted: Feb 29, 2020 - 1:42pm


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Posted: Feb 29, 2020 - 6:43am

 steeler wrote:


 sirdroseph wrote:
Some revel in the prospect of a pandemic so it will produce economic and market hardship causing issues for the sitting President, what if the prospect of your candidate and his policies itself caused the same market issues as a pandemic?

{#Eek}

 

Wall Street cites Bernie Sanders as a rival to the coronavirus as a market risk

 

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/investor-challenges-coronavirus-market-turmoil-this-is-a-bernie-sanders-story-215843823.html

 

 

Global markets have swooned as the pathogen spreads to a successive number of countries outside of China, including South Korea, the U.S., Italy, Iran, Germany and Brazil. 

Yet Lee Munson, chief investment officer of Portfolio Wealth Advisors, told Yahoo Finance on Tuesday that the rise in volatility is really “a story about Bernie Sanders.” Munson pointed out that losses in Europe, and more risk-sensitive emerging market assets, have lagged the deep plunge in U.S. markets.

“If this is really about coronavirus today, we should see emerging markets down 4-5% ... but that’s not the case,” he said. “This is about Bernie Sanders, this is about policy, and this is the correction we were looking for ahead of Super Tuesday.”

And just days ago, the president himself — who’s assiduously claimed credit for a market that hit new records just last week — blamed the Vermont senator for the recent downturn.

 

Eurasia Group estimates that Sanders has a 40% chance to secure the nomination, held back by his vulnerabilities as a general election candidate, but sees a 55% chance that a moderate will eventually prevail.

Whether that person is Bloomberg, however, remains to be seen.

 “We thought that Bloomberg was going to be maybe this hope of sanity — not,” the investor told Yahoo Finance. “The guy showed poorly. I think this is all about politics,” Munson said.

Munson pointed to a sharp drop in the UnitedHealth’s (UNH) stock — which plunged by nearly $20 in Tuesday’s session. Sanders’ embrace of a national health care system has unsettled health care investors, and even some companies.

“There’s this thought that a socialist is going to do Medicare-For-All,” Munson explained, echoing RBC’s analysis that showed health care, financials and energy have “the highest degree of risk” under a theoretical Sanders presidency.

“Health Care has been one of Sanders’s signature campaign issues, with his support of Medicare for All, capping prescription drug prices, and elimination of medical debt,” the bank wrote.

The policy backdrop would also be onerous for financials,” RBC wrote — based on his embrace of breaking up big banks, re-establishing financial sector firewalls and eliminating student debt, among other things.

 

 
As I heard someone say very recently: stay calm. 

 
I'm fine either way just pointing out the hypocrisy of reveling in a bad market........or not.  
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Posted: Feb 29, 2020 - 6:20am



 sirdroseph wrote:
Some revel in the prospect of a pandemic so it will produce economic and market hardship causing issues for the sitting President, what if the prospect of your candidate and his policies itself caused the same market issues as a pandemic?

{#Eek}


 

Wall Street cites Bernie Sanders as a rival to the coronavirus as a market risk

 

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/investor-challenges-coronavirus-market-turmoil-this-is-a-bernie-sanders-story-215843823.html

 

 

Global markets have swooned as the pathogen spreads to a successive number of countries outside of China, including South Korea, the U.S., Italy, Iran, Germany and Brazil. 

Yet Lee Munson, chief investment officer of Portfolio Wealth Advisors, told Yahoo Finance on Tuesday that the rise in volatility is really “a story about Bernie Sanders.” Munson pointed out that losses in Europe, and more risk-sensitive emerging market assets, have lagged the deep plunge in U.S. markets.

“If this is really about coronavirus today, we should see emerging markets down 4-5% ... but that’s not the case,” he said. “This is about Bernie Sanders, this is about policy, and this is the correction we were looking for ahead of Super Tuesday.”

And just days ago, the president himself — who’s assiduously claimed credit for a market that hit new records just last week — blamed the Vermont senator for the recent downturn.

 

Eurasia Group estimates that Sanders has a 40% chance to secure the nomination, held back by his vulnerabilities as a general election candidate, but sees a 55% chance that a moderate will eventually prevail.

Whether that person is Bloomberg, however, remains to be seen.

 â€œWe thought that Bloomberg was going to be maybe this hope of sanity — not,” the investor told Yahoo Finance. “The guy showed poorly. I think this is all about politics,” Munson said.

Munson pointed to a sharp drop in the UnitedHealth’s (UNH) stock — which plunged by nearly $20 in Tuesday’s session. Sanders’ embrace of a national health care system has unsettled health care investors, and even some companies.

“There’s this thought that a socialist is going to do Medicare-For-All,” Munson explained, echoing RBC’s analysis that showed health care, financials and energy have “the highest degree of risk” under a theoretical Sanders presidency.

“Health Care has been one of Sanders’s signature campaign issues, with his support of Medicare for All, capping prescription drug prices, and elimination of medical debt,” the bank wrote.

The policy backdrop would also be onerous for financials,” RBC wrote — based on his embrace of breaking up big banks, re-establishing financial sector firewalls and eliminating student debt, among other things.

 

 
As I heard someone say very recently: stay calm. 

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Posted: Feb 29, 2020 - 4:57am

Some revel in the prospect of a pandemic so it will produce economic and market hardship causing issues for the sitting President, what if the prospect of your candidate and his policies itself caused the same market issues as a pandemic?{#Eek}

 

Wall Street cites Bernie Sanders as a rival to the coronavirus as a market risk

 

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/investor-challenges-coronavirus-market-turmoil-this-is-a-bernie-sanders-story-215843823.html

 

 

Global markets have swooned as the pathogen spreads to a successive number of countries outside of China, including South Korea, the U.S., Italy, Iran, Germany and Brazil. 

Yet Lee Munson, chief investment officer of Portfolio Wealth Advisors, told Yahoo Finance on Tuesday that the rise in volatility is really “a story about Bernie Sanders.” Munson pointed out that losses in Europe, and more risk-sensitive emerging market assets, have lagged the deep plunge in U.S. markets.

“If this is really about coronavirus today, we should see emerging markets down 4-5% ... but that’s not the case,” he said. “This is about Bernie Sanders, this is about policy, and this is the correction we were looking for ahead of Super Tuesday.”

And just days ago, the president himself — who’s assiduously claimed credit for a market that hit new records just last week — blamed the Vermont senator for the recent downturn.

 

Eurasia Group estimates that Sanders has a 40% chance to secure the nomination, held back by his vulnerabilities as a general election candidate, but sees a 55% chance that a moderate will eventually prevail.

Whether that person is Bloomberg, however, remains to be seen.

 “We thought that Bloomberg was going to be maybe this hope of sanity — [he’s] not,” the investor told Yahoo Finance. “The guy showed poorly. I think this is all about politics,” Munson said.

Munson pointed to a sharp drop in the UnitedHealth’s (UNH) stock — which plunged by nearly $20 in Tuesday’s session. Sanders’ embrace of a national health care system has unsettled health care investors, and even some companies.

“There’s this thought that a socialist is going to do Medicare-For-All,” Munson explained, echoing RBC’s analysis that showed health care, financials and energy have “the highest degree of risk” under a theoretical Sanders presidency.

“Health Care has been one of Sanders’s signature campaign issues, with his support of Medicare for All, capping prescription drug prices, and elimination of medical debt,” the bank wrote.

The policy backdrop would also be onerous for financials,” RBC wrote — based on his embrace of breaking up big banks, re-establishing financial sector firewalls and eliminating student debt, among other things.

 

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Posted: Feb 28, 2020 - 4:44pm

Of motes and beams...

Media Stoop to ‘Russian Assistance’ to Explain Sanders’ Rise
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Posted: Feb 28, 2020 - 4:21pm

er, um, ... just sayin I am a bit concerned about poll numbers and possible interference regarding Sanders' front runner status.  Sounds like the Biden frontrunner 'sell' we got earlier. Votes appear to be saying differently. Can't shake the sense of being manipulated. Grain of salt and all that.


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Posted: Feb 28, 2020 - 3:25pm

 miamizsun wrote:
politicians are horrible at math/budgeting

original medicare estimates were way off

Almost everyone is (because people have trouble with big-sounding big numbers and innumeracy is common). And Galvani isn't a politician.

The problem isn't just cost/budget. If you deem something enough of a benefit, you'll make it happen by adjusting. If you deem something detrimental, you'll prevent it from happening. The issue then is, who gets to decide?
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Posted: Feb 28, 2020 - 3:01pm

allsides (from the left) has a take on bernie sanders beating trump

Bernie Sanders Can Beat Trump. Here’s the Math.
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Posted: Feb 28, 2020 - 2:54pm

 R_P wrote:
Here’s that Medicare-for-all study Bernie Sanders keeps bringing up
Galvani’s $3 trillion estimate is lower than the annual spending estimates produced by some other observers, including the libertarian Mercatus Center ($3.8 trillion per year) and the more centrist-oriented Urban Institute ($4.2 trillion per year) and RAND Corporation ($3.9 trillion).

All of these estimates — Galvani’s included — are built on various assumptions about how costs and payments and patient behaviors would work in the real world with a Medicare-for-all plan in place: How much would doctors and hospitals actually save on administrative overhead? How many people would increase their use of medical services once they’re paid for? Would a single-payer system make it easier to detect medical fraud?

Experts answer those questions differently, which is reflected in their final cost estimates. And though we can’t predict the future, we do have plenty of data on what’s happening in the American health-care system right now. Relative to people in other wealthy nations, Americans are less likely to be in good health and more likely to die of preventable causes. Our babies and mothers are more likely to die after child birth, and our lives are shorter overall.

Lack of a universal health-care system means that regular medical care is unaffordable for many Americans: Fully one-quarter of us have put off needed care because of cost. More than 8 million Americans have started a crowdfunding campaign to pay for medical care, with approximately 1 in 5 Americans contributing to somebody else’s medical crowdfunding campaign. Ninety percent of those campaigns will fail to raise the necessary funds.

By addressing these and other problems, Galvani and her colleagues estimate that regardless of cost, Medicare-for-all would save about 69,000 lives each year. They end their paper by calling on the medical community to answer “the moral imperative to provide health care as a human right, not dependent on employment or affluence.”
 

politicians are horrible at math/budgeting

original medicare estimates were way off

i did see/listen to steve teles and brink lindsey stuff on thier book "the captured economy"

i need to read it if i can ever find the time

i think brink in this interview touches on their research regarding healthcare (about five minutes or so)

enjoy
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Posted: Feb 28, 2020 - 9:28am

A Billionaire Heiress and a Bernie-Backed Progressive Face Off in California Primary
Sara Jacobs, heiress to the Qualcomm fortune, is leading in the polls thanks in part to a super PAC funded entirely by her billionaire grandparents.
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Posted: Feb 28, 2020 - 6:39am

 black321 wrote:
p.s., so if you really want universal care...don't vote for bernie as he wont get it done.
 
in bernie's defense he is doing what the other politicians are doing: trying to tell a good story

we could give folks cards but that doesn't address the root issue of a shortage of service framework

health care is a product and if we want more of it we need to build out that framework (produce it)

like anything else produce more and quality improves and price drops

open that market up and don't allow politicians to shield the entrenched/connected

platitude: health care is ripe for disruption
edit: reminds me of this bit i posted in the ew thread

The result is the confounding spectacle of candidates attempting to attract supporters with proposals they know they cannot implement. Reporters ask how candidates plan to pay for policies that will never be enacted. Pundits and wonks add up the “total cost” of agendas that would require unified partisan control of government to get even partially enacted. Voters are left systematically misled about what they can realistically expect and disappointed that they never get what they’re promised. When this happens again and again, bomb-throwing “outsider” candidates who promise to blow up the system and barrel through gridlock end up looking better and better.
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Posted: Feb 28, 2020 - 5:08am

Gettin' crazy out there yo{#Eek}: Report: Michelle Obama petitioned to run as vice president to stop Bernie Sanders

 

 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/video/report-michelle-obama-petitioned-run-124037364.html

 

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Posted: Feb 27, 2020 - 6:12pm

The Agony and the Ecstasy of Chris Matthews
In a rare moment of clarity that inadvertently seemed to sum up the whole afternoon, former George W. Bush communications hack Nicolle Wallace was finally forced to concede, “I have no idea what voters think about anything anymore.” The day’s undisputed champion, however, was MSNBC’s carnival-barker-in-residence, Chris Matthews, who, fresh from imagining an alternate reality involving his own execution by Cuban communists in Central Park a few weeks ago, managed to outdo himself by equating Sanders’s victory in Nevada to the Nazi Blitzkrieg of France in 1940.

Justifiably under fire for the remarks, Matthews has since apologized. But the moment may nonetheless be symbolic of something larger than the deranged outburst of a septuagenarian TV host raised on a noxious diet of Cold War propaganda.

Matthews is, after all, a creature of cable news to his very bones — emblematic of a modern infotainment culture that has long prized deference to orthodoxy, empty provocation, and branded personality over any particular desire to enlighten or inform. A veteran of what is laughably called America’s “national conversation” (in practice, a hollow pantomime of political engagement in which overpaid people who are mostly neither very curious nor very bright theatrically spar for the cameras before meeting up at the bar a few hours later), he’s been a fixture of the Washington political scene since his days as a staffer for Jimmy Carter and Tip O’Neill. (...)

In an eerie parallel, Matthews’s personal philosophy mirrors the acquisitive, market-centric amoralism of the modern Democratic Party with which he’s become so intimately aligned. Albeit in different ways, both are products of a hollow liberal culture that values individual success over collective solidarity, toasts the endless triangulation of its elites as a marker of enlightened realism, and allows the twin idols of wealth and celebrity to be its lodestars.

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Posted: Feb 27, 2020 - 10:41am

Here’s that Medicare-for-all study Bernie Sanders keeps bringing up
Galvani’s $3 trillion estimate is lower than the annual spending estimates produced by some other observers, including the libertarian Mercatus Center ($3.8 trillion per year) and the more centrist-oriented Urban Institute ($4.2 trillion per year) and RAND Corporation ($3.9 trillion).

All of these estimates — Galvani’s included — are built on various assumptions about how costs and payments and patient behaviors would work in the real world with a Medicare-for-all plan in place: How much would doctors and hospitals actually save on administrative overhead? How many people would increase their use of medical services once they’re paid for? Would a single-payer system make it easier to detect medical fraud?

Experts answer those questions differently, which is reflected in their final cost estimates. And though we can’t predict the future, we do have plenty of data on what’s happening in the American health-care system right now. Relative to people in other wealthy nations, Americans are less likely to be in good health and more likely to die of preventable causes. Our babies and mothers are more likely to die after child birth, and our lives are shorter overall.

Lack of a universal health-care system means that regular medical care is unaffordable for many Americans: Fully one-quarter of us have put off needed care because of cost. More than 8 million Americans have started a crowdfunding campaign to pay for medical care, with approximately 1 in 5 Americans contributing to somebody else’s medical crowdfunding campaign. Ninety percent of those campaigns will fail to raise the necessary funds.

By addressing these and other problems, Galvani and her colleagues estimate that regardless of cost, Medicare-for-all would save about 69,000 lives each year. They end their paper by calling on the medical community to answer “the moral imperative to provide health care as a human right, not dependent on employment or affluence.”

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