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Proclivities

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Posted: Apr 24, 2019 - 7:56am



 kcar wrote:

"So please remove the nonsense score descriptions, they are puerile and annoying."

...
fredphoesh, you need a new hobby. 
 
Maybe it's a fun hobby: contemplating ordinal and interval ratings scales and the semantics involved - one could make a living doing such things.  Plus, how often do you get the use the word "puerile" twice in one diatribe, make that the first post in a newly-created forum thread, and then paste that same diatribe in the comments sections for two different songs?
kcar

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Posted: Apr 23, 2019 - 7:10pm

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:
NEW RATING SYSTEM DESCRIPTORS

  1. Your favorites.
  2. Spiny rodents. In trees.
  3. I heard it on commercial radio once.
  4. I heard it on commercial radio once but liked it.
  5. My ex-girlfriend's favorite.
  6. My girlfriend's favorite.
  7. I knew them before you.
  8. So good I think I wet myself.
  9. I definitely did.
  10. Why even have this category? If we hear music this good, we'll be raptured immediately.


 
"Spiny rodents. In trees."

photo of Spiny Norman, giant hedgehog, looming over the House of Parliament

The other, other operation...
haresfur

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Location: The Golden Triangle
Gender: Male


Posted: Apr 23, 2019 - 6:56pm



 ScottFromWyoming wrote:
NEW RATING SYSTEM DESCRIPTORS

  1. Your favorites.
  2. Spiny rodents. In trees.
  3. I heard it on commercial radio once.
  4. I heard it on commercial radio once but liked it.
  5. My ex-girlfriend's favorite.
  6. My girlfriend's favorite.
  7. I knew them before you.
  8. So good I think I wet myself.
  9. I definitely did.
  10. Why even have this category? If we hear music this good, we'll be raptured immediately.

 

Fleet  foxes aren't rodents



ScottFromWyoming

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Posted: Apr 23, 2019 - 6:55pm

NEW RATING SYSTEM DESCRIPTORS

  1. Your favorites.
  2. Spiny rodents. In trees.
  3. I heard it on commercial radio once.
  4. I heard it on commercial radio once but liked it.
  5. My ex-girlfriend's favorite.
  6. My girlfriend's favorite.
  7. I knew them before you.
  8. So good I think I wet myself.
  9. I definitely did.
  10. Why even have this category? If we hear music this good, we'll be raptured immediately.

kcar

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Posted: Apr 23, 2019 - 4:17pm

 fredphoesh wrote:
I am finding the RP rating categories to be really, very, very poorly conceived and annoying.

I like the idea of a rating system, but strongly dislike the way RP has given puerile and barely distinguishable descriptions to each of the 1-10 scores. There are three chunks of scores which are almost impossible to separate, and it therefore weakens the use of a scoring system instead of making it more fun/insightful.

Firstly, the top 3 are more or less the same
10-godlike 9-outstanding 8-most excellent
FFS, MOST excellent is the most excellent something can be, so how is "outstanding" better than something that is already "most" something? And if it is "most" something, it might be your "godlike" level of greatness too, so there is no distinction of note here.

Then the second bunch of 3 are interchangeable too
7-quite likeable 6-pretty good 5- decent are all saying pretty much the same thing, that the music is OK. Just OK. None of these ratings are necessarily better or worse than the other, so another stupid bunch of ratings.

The third bunch of similar ratings are 4-acceptable 3-ho-hum 2-marginal
They are all saying the music is not terrible, but is not great either. Acceptable in that you will not turn it off, but it is a bit boring perhaps (ho-hum) and on the verge of not being worthy of a listen.

Then we go from something that is marginally acceptable to completely "sucko barfo". Seriously RP, this is a really rubbish rating system. I think it would be much better if the numbers 1-10 did not have some daft attempt at making sense out of a 1-10 rating system. People rate something 7/10 for different reasons. You may love the song, but find that version to be a bit disappointing. That is completely different from someone who gives it 7/10 because though they don't like the song that much, they love the artist and also the musicianship is excellent....

So please remove the nonsense score descriptions, they are puerile and annoying.

 
"So please remove the nonsense score descriptions, they are puerile and annoying."


Those adjectives better apply to you, I think. This post reminds me of (former?) RP member rdo. {#Stop}

You assume that people actually adjust their rating of a song according to the description RP provides for each number in the rating. I don't think most people look at those descriptions. People raise or lower their rating of a song based on their mood or the average rating of other members or...who knows. The rating system is not a rational or reliable yardstick. It's diversive fun that might in aggregate be slightly useful to Bill and Rebecca when they review their playlists. 

fredphoesh, you need a new hobby. 
haresfur

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Location: The Golden Triangle
Gender: Male


Posted: Apr 23, 2019 - 3:20pm



 fredphoesh wrote:
I am finding the RP rating categories to be really, very, very poorly conceived and annoying.

I like the idea of a rating system, but strongly dislike the way RP has given puerile and barely distinguishable descriptions to each of the 1-10 scores. There are three chunks of scores which are almost impossible to separate, and it therefore weakens the use of a scoring system instead of making it more fun/insightful.

Firstly, the top 3 are more or less the same
10-godlike 9-outstanding 8-most excellent
FFS, MOST excellent is the most excellent something can be, so how is "outstanding" better than something that is already "most" something? And if it is "most" something, it might be your "godlike" level of greatness too, so there is no distinction of note here.

Then the second bunch of 3 are interchangeable too
7-quite likeable 6-pretty good 5- decent are all saying pretty much the same thing, that the music is OK. Just OK. None of these ratings are necessarily better or worse than the other, so another stupid bunch of ratings.

The third bunch of similar ratings are 4-acceptable 3-ho-hum 2-marginal
They are all saying the music is not terrible, but is not great either. Acceptable in that you will not turn it off, but it is a bit boring perhaps (ho-hum) and on the verge of not being worthy of a listen.

Then we go from something that is marginally acceptable to completely "sucko barfo". Seriously RP, this is a really rubbish rating system. I think it would be much better if the numbers 1-10 did not have some daft attempt at making sense out of a 1-10 rating system. People rate something 7/10 for different reasons. You may love the song, but find that version to be a bit disappointing. That is completely different from someone who gives it 7/10 because though they don't like the song that much, they love the artist and also the musicianship is excellent....

So please remove the nonsense score descriptions, they are puerile and annoying.
 
Nothing stopping you from using a 1-3-6-9 rating system.

Or whatever else you like. The only difference it makes is when you click the Play Something I Like stream.

Other people's ratings depend on their personal strictness, and everyone else is full of shit, anyway.

islander

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Gender: Male


Posted: Apr 23, 2019 - 3:09pm



 fredphoesh wrote:
I am finding the RP rating categories to be really, very, very poorly conceived and annoying.

I like the idea of a rating system, but strongly dislike the way RP has given puerile and barely distinguishable descriptions to each of the 1-10 scores. There are three chunks of scores which are almost impossible to separate, and it therefore weakens the use of a scoring system instead of making it more fun/insightful.

Firstly, the top 3 are more or less the same
10-godlike 9-outstanding 8-most excellent
FFS, MOST excellent is the most excellent something can be, so how is "outstanding" better than something that is already "most" something? And if it is "most" something, it might be your "godlike" level of greatness too, so there is no distinction of note here.

Then the second bunch of 3 are interchangeable too
7-quite likeable 6-pretty good 5- decent are all saying pretty much the same thing, that the music is OK. Just OK. None of these ratings are necessarily better or worse than the other, so another stupid bunch of ratings.

The third bunch of similar ratings are 4-acceptable 3-ho-hum 2-marginal
They are all saying the music is not terrible, but is not great either. Acceptable in that you will not turn it off, but it is a bit boring perhaps (ho-hum) and on the verge of not being worthy of a listen.

Then we go from something that is marginally acceptable to completely "sucko barfo". Seriously RP, this is a really rubbish rating system. I think it would be much better if the numbers 1-10 did not have some daft attempt at making sense out of a 1-10 rating system. People rate something 7/10 for different reasons. You may love the song, but find that version to be a bit disappointing. That is completely different from someone who gives it 7/10 because though they don't like the song that much, they love the artist and also the musicianship is excellent....

So please remove the nonsense score descriptions, they are puerile and annoying.
 
I give this post a 1.



ptooey

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Posted: Apr 23, 2019 - 2:25pm



 fredphoesh wrote:
I am finding the RP rating categories to be really, very, very poorly conceived and annoying.

I like the idea of a rating system, but strongly dislike the way RP has given puerile and barely distinguishable descriptions to each of the 1-10 scores. There are three chunks of scores which are almost impossible to separate, and it therefore weakens the use of a scoring system instead of making it more fun/insightful.

Firstly, the top 3 are more or less the same
10-godlike 9-outstanding 8-most excellent
FFS, MOST excellent is the most excellent something can be, so how is "outstanding" better than something that is already "most" something? And if it is "most" something, it might be your "godlike" level of greatness too, so there is no distinction of note here.

Then the second bunch of 3 are interchangeable too
7-quite likeable 6-pretty good 5- decent are all saying pretty much the same thing, that the music is OK. Just OK. None of these ratings are necessarily better or worse than the other, so another stupid bunch of ratings.

The third bunch of similar ratings are 4-acceptable 3-ho-hum 2-marginal
They are all saying the music is not terrible, but is not great either. Acceptable in that you will not turn it off, but it is a bit boring perhaps (ho-hum) and on the verge of not being worthy of a listen.

Then we go from something that is marginally acceptable to completely "sucko barfo". Seriously RP, this is a really rubbish rating system. I think it would be much better if the numbers 1-10 did not have some daft attempt at making sense out of a 1-10 rating system. People rate something 7/10 for different reasons. You may love the song, but find that version to be a bit disappointing. That is completely different from someone who gives it 7/10 because though they don't like the song that much, they love the artist and also the musicianship is excellent....

So please remove the nonsense score descriptions, they are puerile and annoying.
 

Well, you're just a little ray of sunshine, ain't ya?
fredphoesh

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Posted: Apr 23, 2019 - 1:54pm

I am finding the RP rating categories to be really, very, very poorly conceived and annoying.

I like the idea of a rating system, but strongly dislike the way RP has given puerile and barely distinguishable descriptions to each of the 1-10 scores. There are three chunks of scores which are almost impossible to separate, and it therefore weakens the use of a scoring system instead of making it more fun/insightful.

Firstly, the top 3 are more or less the same
10-godlike 9-outstanding 8-most excellent
FFS, MOST excellent is the most excellent something can be, so how is "outstanding" better than something that is already "most" something? And if it is "most" something, it might be your "godlike" level of greatness too, so there is no distinction of note here.

Then the second bunch of 3 are interchangeable too
7-quite likeable 6-pretty good 5- decent are all saying pretty much the same thing, that the music is OK. Just OK. None of these ratings are necessarily better or worse than the other, so another stupid bunch of ratings.

The third bunch of similar ratings are 4-acceptable 3-ho-hum 2-marginal
They are all saying the music is not terrible, but is not great either. Acceptable in that you will not turn it off, but it is a bit boring perhaps (ho-hum) and on the verge of not being worthy of a listen.

Then we go from something that is marginally acceptable to completely "sucko barfo". Seriously RP, this is a really rubbish rating system. I think it would be much better if the numbers 1-10 did not have some daft attempt at making sense out of a 1-10 rating system. People rate something 7/10 for different reasons. You may love the song, but find that version to be a bit disappointing. That is completely different from someone who gives it 7/10 because though they don't like the song that much, they love the artist and also the musicianship is excellent....

So please remove the nonsense score descriptions, they are puerile and annoying.
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