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Posted: Dec 11, 2018 - 4:13pm

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Best line from the piece: 


"(Nancy Pelosi), the likely future speaker added: 'It goes to show you: you get into a tickle contest with a skunk, you get tinkle all over you.' "


Trump should have been placed in an assisted-living facility a long time ago. Bob Mueller's trying to line something up for Donald as we speak...
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Posted: Dec 11, 2018 - 3:09pm

Pinocchio and the two Democrats: how that Trump meeting descended into farce
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Posted: Dec 11, 2018 - 2:01pm



 Proclivities wrote:
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He is critical of "Liberals"
- "hard on  Democrats" probably isn't accurate though.  He has been accused of being anti-Islamic though.

.......



 
Is Bill Maher not an ethnic cleanser like so many secular liberals in the USA?  

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Posted: Dec 10, 2018 - 8:54pm


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Posted: Dec 10, 2018 - 7:39pm



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Obama was cheated ! 

He should have been the first with you can keep your doctor ...
 

Diddums, it really is way past  time to stop dragging that security blanket around. You cannot blame Obama for the narrowness of the insurance providers' networks.

It's not as if the ACA forces all people to abandon their doctors. And if you had a PCP prior to the ACA, there's a good chance you already had insurance so in most cases the ACA's enactment didn't affect you.

The ACA is not a thing of beauty. It needs fixes and changes. But presidents as far back as TR had been trying to do what Obama did.

But hey, don't worry: Trump will look great in an orange jumpsuit!
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Posted: Dec 10, 2018 - 2:48pm

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Obama was cheated ! 

He should have been the first with you can keep your doctor ...

 
Just to clarify: you can keep your doctor but your doctor doesn't have to keep you.
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Posted: Dec 10, 2018 - 2:28pm

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WashPo has recognized Trump's main claim to fame: his incessant and repeated lying. Welcome, ladies and gentlemen, to the world of The Bottomless Pinocchio. 
 
Meet the Bottomless Pinocchio, a new rating for a false claim repeated over and over again 

Trump’s willingness to constantly repeat false claims has posed a unique challenge to fact-checkers. Most politicians quickly drop a Four-Pinocchio claim, either out of a duty to be accurate or concern that spreading false information could be politically damaging.
 

 

 
Obama was cheated ! 

He should have been the first with you can keep your doctor ...
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Posted: Dec 10, 2018 - 10:22am

WashPo has recognized Trump's main claim to fame: his incessant and repeated lying. Welcome, ladies and gentlemen, to the world of The Bottomless Pinocchio. 


 
Meet the Bottomless Pinocchio, a new rating for a false claim repeated over and over again 



Trump’s willingness to constantly repeat false claims has posed a unique challenge to fact-checkers. Most politicians quickly drop a Four-Pinocchio claim, either out of a duty to be accurate or concern that spreading false information could be politically damaging.
 

Not Trump. The president keeps going long after the facts are clear, in what appears to be a deliberate effort to replace the truth with his own, far more favorable, version of it. He is not merely making gaffes or misstating things, he is purposely injecting false information into the national conversation.
 

To accurately reflect this phenomenon, The Washington Post Fact Checker is introducing a new category — the Bottomless Pinocchio. That dubious distinction will be awarded to politicians who repeat a false claim so many times that they are, in effect, engaging in campaigns of disinformation.

The bar for the Bottomless Pinocchio is high: The claims must have received three or four Pinocchios from The Fact Checker, and they must have been repeated at least 20 times. Twenty is a sufficiently robust number that there can be no question the politician is aware that his or her facts are wrong. The list of Bottomless Pinocchios will be maintained on its own landing page.


The Fact Checker has not identified statements from any other current elected official who meets the standard other than Trump. In fact, 14 statements made by the president immediately qualify for the list.
 

The president’s most-repeated falsehoods fall into a handful of broad categories — claiming credit for promises he has not fulfilled; false assertions that provide a rationale for his agenda; and political weaponry against perceived enemies such as Democrats or special counsel Robert S. Mueller III.

 


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Posted: Dec 9, 2018 - 11:52am

John Kelly Was a Bully, Bigot, and Liar for Trump. Goodbye and Good Riddance.
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Posted: Dec 8, 2018 - 7:04pm

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Votre Chump-in-chief...
Falling for “Les Fake News,” Trump Spreads Lie French Protesters Chant His Name
Donald Trump is so vain he really thinks the protests in Paris are about him. As about 8,000 anti-government protesters wearing yellow safety vests dodged tear gas in the French capital on Saturday, the president of the United States fell for a social-media hoax, claiming that the demonstrators were chanting his name. (...)


 


Even Warren Beatty's appalled...





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Posted: Dec 8, 2018 - 1:58pm

Votre Chump-in-chief...
Falling for “Les Fake News,” Trump Spreads Lie French Protesters Chant His Name
Donald Trump is so vain he really thinks the protests in Paris are about him. As about 8,000 anti-government protesters wearing yellow safety vests dodged tear gas in the French capital on Saturday, the president of the United States fell for a social-media hoax, claiming that the demonstrators were chanting his name. (...)

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Posted: Dec 7, 2018 - 4:59pm


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Posted: Dec 6, 2018 - 1:37pm



 westslope wrote:
Look, I do enjoy watching/listening to Bill Maher.   "Hard on Democrats" though?   Really?   

Gee, I must have missed those shows.   Once in a while critical of Democrats is how I would describe it.
 

He is critical of "Liberals"
- "hard on  Democrats" probably isn't accurate though.  He has been accused of being anti-Islamic though.

"After playing a clip from a campaign ad in which (Conor) Lamb distanced himself from the House minority leader, Maher said, “So this was a special election to replace a Republican who was staunchly pro-life but got caught pressuring his mistress to have an abortion and the Democrats let it become a referendum on Nancy Pelosi?” Instead, he said Lamb’s message should have been, “Democrats support abortion—so do Republicans when they need one for their girlfriend.”



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Posted: Dec 6, 2018 - 12:17pm

Look, I do enjoy watching/listening to Bill Maher.   "Hard on Democrats" though?   Really?   

Gee, I must have missed those shows.   Once in a while critical of Democrats is how I would describe it.
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Posted: Dec 6, 2018 - 11:25am

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Trump sued Bill Maher for millions a few years back because Maher challenged to him to prove he's not the son of an orangutang.   Bill Maher is partisan but he is very hard on Dems.

 
Yep to me Maher is not as severely partisan as Colbert and the rest, I actually respect him more because he does not adhere to any team and thinks for himself.
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Posted: Dec 6, 2018 - 11:00am

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 kcar wrote:

.......

I was crushed when Jon Stewart retired but Stephen Colbert is hitting it out of the park. He's probably the biggest and best thorn in Trump's side. 
 

Colbert is excellent.   Bill Maher's take on Trump can be funny too though perhaps more partisan.  

I am not sure that any of these comedians are a thorn in Trump's side as they tend to get consumed by the already converted.    That said,  the catharsis is good for the converted.

 
Trump sued Bill Maher for millions a few years back because Maher challenged to him to prove he's not the son of an orangutang.   Bill Maher is partisan but he is very hard on Dems.
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Posted: Dec 6, 2018 - 10:25am

Trump’s trade war: Does the U.S. have the ‘lowest tariffs in the world’?
But a chart on page 8 of that WTO report confirms that the U.S. tariffs, while low, are not the lowest in the world. Such broad categories obscure the fact that the United States maintains high tariffs on politically sensitive products, such as 131.8 percent on peanuts, 25 percent on light trucks, 16 percent on wool sweaters and 25 percent on tuna, not to mention 20 percent tariffs on various dairy products.

The picture changes if you use different data sources, such as the World Bank. For the simple mean average tariff rate for all products, the World Bank shows the United States behind not only Australia, but also Canada, Japan and many European countries.

The picture changes again when you look at weighted average tariffs, rather than just a simple average.

This measure, which many economists say is more accurate, weights each tariff by the share of total imports in that import category. As an example, a country would have a simple average tariff of 10 percent if the statutory tariff for wood was 5 percent, for shoes 10 percent, and cars 15 percent. But if that country imported a lot of wood, no shoes and no cars, the weighted average tariff would be 5 percent.

Under a weighted average, the United States does somewhat better than under the simple average in the World Bank data, but it is still not lower than Japan, Canada and Australia.

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Posted: Nov 30, 2018 - 10:24am

Donald Trump Claims Everyone Knew About Secret Russian Deal No One Knew About
Asked to comment on his former lawyer’s confession in federal court on Thursday that the Trump Organization had secretly negotiated with  the Russian government during the 2016 presidential campaign, Donald Trump attempted to sell the American people an outrageous lie. (...)

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Posted: Nov 28, 2018 - 10:34am

"We think we need it — we don’t think; we desperately need a wall"

"One of the problems that a lot of people like myself — we have very high levels of intelligence, but we’re not necessarily such believers."
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