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BillG

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Posted: May 27, 2019 - 4:25pm



 dpozzi wrote:
Hi Bill, thanks for your effort.
Do not plan to add something similar to https://api.radioparadise.com/... with the metadata of the theme that is being played in the link?
It would be a simple way to get metadata in app like Volumio or LMS

Daniel 


 BillG wrote:
We've sorted out the issues on our FLAC stream encoder, and these URLs should work fine now — bandwidth permitting, of course.

Main Mix:  http://stream.radioparadise.com/flac
Mellow Mix: http://stream.radioparadise.com/mellow-flac
 


 

Yes, we'll have an API endpoint you can use to grab the current now playing metadata + the time until the next song starts. 
dpozzi

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Posted: May 27, 2019 - 3:33pm

Hi Bill, thanks for your effort.
Do not plan to add something similar to https://api.radioparadise.com/... with the metadata of the theme that is being played in the link?
It would be a simple way to get metadata in app like Volumio or LMS

Daniel 


 BillG wrote:
We've sorted out the issues on our FLAC stream encoder, and these URLs should work fine now — bandwidth permitting, of course.

Main Mix:  http://stream.radioparadise.com/flac
Mellow Mix: http://stream.radioparadise.com/mellow-flac
 


BillG

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Posted: May 27, 2019 - 2:18pm

We've sorted out the issues on our FLAC stream encoder, and these URLs should work fine now — bandwidth permitting, of course.

Main Mix:  http://stream.radioparadise.com/flac
Mellow Mix: http://stream.radioparadise.com/mellow-flac
BillG

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Posted: May 21, 2019 - 8:25am



 d6jg wrote:
Still experiencing stuttering via the LMS plugin (but I don't think it is anything to do with the plugin). It started about 14:30 UK time.

 ra990 wrote:
Working and sounding great in MusicBee, thanks Bill!

 BillG wrote:

 BillG wrote:
We're working on a revised source for the FLAC stream. Should have that ready for testing tomorrow.
 

Here's the new test URL. We've identified 2 issues. This URL should successfully address one of those. The other will be addressed tomorrow.

If you've posted the test URL anywhere, please update your post to the new URL. The old one will be discontinued shortly.

http://icy-8.radioparadise.com/flac

This is still subject to periodic outages — some brief (for software updates), some longer (due to failures caused by the second issue I mentioned above)
 


 


 

Listening via the LMS plugin is a totally different deal than via the stream link below. Any stuttering would be happening either on LMS, your network, or your player - not on our end. 
d6jg



Posted: May 21, 2019 - 7:47am

Still experiencing stuttering via the LMS plugin (but I don't think it is anything to do with the plugin). It started about 14:30 UK time.

 ra990 wrote:
Working and sounding great in MusicBee, thanks Bill!

 BillG wrote:

 BillG wrote:
We're working on a revised source for the FLAC stream. Should have that ready for testing tomorrow.
 

Here's the new test URL. We've identified 2 issues. This URL should successfully address one of those. The other will be addressed tomorrow.

If you've posted the test URL anywhere, please update your post to the new URL. The old one will be discontinued shortly.

http://icy-8.radioparadise.com/flac

This is still subject to periodic outages — some brief (for software updates), some longer (due to failures caused by the second issue I mentioned above)
 


 


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Posted: May 20, 2019 - 4:18pm

Working and sounding great in MusicBee, thanks Bill!

 BillG wrote:

 BillG wrote:
We're working on a revised source for the FLAC stream. Should have that ready for testing tomorrow.
 

Here's the new test URL. We've identified 2 issues. This URL should successfully address one of those. The other will be addressed tomorrow.

If you've posted the test URL anywhere, please update your post to the new URL. The old one will be discontinued shortly.

http://icy-8.radioparadise.com/flac

This is still subject to periodic outages — some brief (for software updates), some longer (due to failures caused by the second issue I mentioned above)
 


BillG

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Posted: May 15, 2019 - 7:06pm


 BillG wrote:
We're working on a revised source for the FLAC stream. Should have that ready for testing tomorrow.
 

Here's the new test URL. We've identified 2 issues. This URL should successfully address one of those. The other will be addressed tomorrow.

If you've posted the test URL anywhere, please update your post to the new URL. The old one will be discontinued shortly.

http://icy-8.radioparadise.com/flac

This is still subject to periodic outages — some brief (for software updates), some longer (due to failures caused by the second issue I mentioned above)
BillG

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Posted: May 15, 2019 - 5:37pm

We're working on a revised source for the FLAC stream. Should have that ready for testing tomorrow.
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Posted: May 15, 2019 - 12:07pm

Today between 10 and 14 o'clock Argentina worked correctly the link.
Then the connection was cut off. Now at 4 pm it is connected but it is impossible to listen, it is cut continuously.
(Edit) Sorry, since the web is also cut and can not be heard. Even the emissions that are not flac, in both channels.
stevebythebay



Posted: May 11, 2019 - 8:57am

Trying to use the new Flac stream but either the station becomes inaccessible or has frequent drops. I’m using a Roon player which supports other Flac stations such as JB Radio 2.  I don’t suppose there’s anything we users can do to help “fix” the problems. 
d700



Posted: May 10, 2019 - 8:56am



 left_channel wrote:
It's up and working well today!
 

Not sure if this is the right place, please direct me if not.

I found RP via Squeezebox/Logitech Music Server...been listening all year (and have donated). Sometime in past couple months the FLAC stream for LMS Mellow Mix has started hanging intermittently. I think RP knows about it and is working on it.

In my options for LMS, I see the 320 bit stream for the regular RP channel...its never had a problem.

Is there a 320 bit stream for the Mellow Mix? I'd be happy with that while the FLAC issue is getting worked out.

Love the content RP, keep it up.
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Posted: Apr 26, 2019 - 8:22am

It's up and working well today!
left_channel

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Posted: Apr 24, 2019 - 8:06am

The test FLAC stream is offline. Based on reports by others it has been down for at least 24 hours, or was down 24 hours ago, or something. The AAC stream is playing fine here. (I'm also getting some stuttering in the LMS plugin for the first time ever, but I'll report that in the LMS forum.)
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Posted: Apr 23, 2019 - 8:42am

No speed issues yesterday or today! I tested the stream for four hours yesterday and briefly this morning.
• In MusicBee for two hours, once an hour I got a few seconds of stuttering and a brief dropout, but it recovered fine.
• In LMS after two hours it dropped out and the player stopped completely. 
• Today in VLC I got stuttering and dropouts in the first minutes.

Hope these reports are helpful. I'd blame something on my end, but all other streams play fine here. 

Also you may be interested in these odd posts by someone testing the stream with ffmpeg and other tools:https://www.pinkfishmedia.net/...


 left_channel wrote:
Yes, I and everyone else reporting the speed issue also get stuttering. Glad to hear this may be the issue you're working on. Good luck!

 BillG wrote:


 left_channel wrote:
Your apps are fantastic and I'm a proud supporter. Just trying this test stream to help out. I have listened to a FLAC stream in MusicBee before with no problem (a EuropaRadioJazz channel that is no longer online), so it seems significant I'm hearing so many problems in this one now. Also dropouts and disconnects in VLC. If it was only LMS I wouldn't be surprised and we'd be handling it entirely on the LMS forum.
 
Got it.  The test stream seems pretty stable at the moment. I think I may have isolated the cause of the stuttering & dropouts. I'll play with it some more tomorrow. 

The wrong-speed (sample rate error) issue is something I haven't encountered using VLC (the only player I've used so far) — though sometimes the stuttering causes something similar. If you're talking about a sample-rate issue only — ie playback is smooth, but just sounds too fast or slow — then I definitely want to hear more. If it's a stuttering + speed error, then it's probably the known issue I'm working on.

I appreciate the feedback.

 


 


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Posted: Apr 22, 2019 - 8:23am



 kurtster wrote:

Heh, yeah.  All my programs are old but they still do everything I need them to do and I have hard copies of the programs.  It stays off line, except for playing streams.  I'm seriously considering looking for a rebuilt backup motherboard. Its got an i5 Pentium 4 in it. I have already accumulated a couple of extra soundcards.  Oh and I simply love the DT 1770 headphones.  Thanks for mentioning them.  A serious game changer.

Curious why you are using VBR vs CBR ?  Could the VBR be causing the processors to work too hard to adapt to the changes and causing some of these stuttering problems with the huge size of the flac files ?
 
The encoder I'm using doesn't offer a CBR option. Actually, I'm pretty sure the FLAC codec is inherently VBR.

Got the DT 1770s, eh?  They've spoiled me for all other headphones and speakers (at least any that I own).  I have a pair of Klipsch X-20i earbuds that I use when I'm out & about — otherwise I use the DT 1770s pretty much full time.

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Posted: Apr 22, 2019 - 8:15am

 BillG wrote:


 kurtster wrote:

Sounds nice and clean.  Sending it to the big rig in the living room via optical from the XP puter.  Awesome !
 

XP, eh?  A serious old-school thang... :-)

 
Heh, yeah.  All my programs are old but they still do everything I need them to do and I have hard copies of the programs.  It stays off line, except for playing streams.  I'm seriously considering looking for a rebuilt backup motherboard. Its got an i5 Pentium 4 in it. I have already accumulated a couple of extra soundcards.  Oh and I simply love the DT 1770 headphones.  Thanks for mentioning them.  A serious game changer.

Curious why you are using VBR vs CBR ?  Could the VBR be causing the processors to work too hard to adapt to the changes and causing some of these stuttering problems with the huge size of the flac files ?
BillG

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Posted: Apr 22, 2019 - 7:56am



 kurtster wrote:

Sounds nice and clean.  Sending it to the big rig in the living room via optical from the XP puter.  Awesome !


 

XP, eh?  A serious old-school thang... :-)
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Posted: Apr 22, 2019 - 7:14am

 BillG wrote:
Thanks, Kurt :-)

Yes, I found the same stuttering error on the server this morning. Still investigating.

Reset everything and will be keeping an eye on it.

 
Sounds nice and clean.  Sending it to the big rig in the living room via optical from the XP puter.  Awesome !


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Posted: Apr 22, 2019 - 6:47am



 kurtster wrote:
Ok, I'm onboard.  Using Foobar (v1.2.8) on my XP music puter and VLC on my Windows 7 Internet puter.  The sound and stuttering is the same, although on the Foobar / XP rig I also seem to be hearing some slight volume changes as well during the stuttering.  Perhaps the XP has better sound and is more sensitive.  Sounds great though in between the stuttering.

my ISP is Spectrum with 100 mbs

I'm seeing a VBR averaging around between 950 to 1100 kbs @ 44100 Hz on the display when it stutters (INXS - Suicide Blonde).  It gets even lower when the stream is steady averaging 700 to 950 or perhaps it is due to the content.  This was during Gotye - Heart's A Mess.  IABD - White Bird is back to the 900 to 1100 range.

The volume shifts seems to be gone now that Foobar has been running for about 45 minutes now.  Perhaps the puter and whatnot were just getting settled in.  The volume is constant from track to track. Big Mama Thornton was awesome and I just heard some volume issues with Tommy James.  Back to nice with Belly.  HTH.

The metadata thing sucks for your purposes.  I got over it long ago working with wav files.  The sound was more important to me than the metadata.  I guess for now, keeping the web page up in some form to stay informed is the only way to go.  OTOH, it's like we are back in the old days when things musical moved from AM to FM and the sound was more important than all the signal / equipment drawbacks of FM in those days.  Steely Dan - FM with static or no static at all ?  
{#Lol}


You are still a true pioneer in all that you are doing.  What a ride it has been since the beginning of RP.  Live long and prosper, brah !
 

Thanks, Kurt :-)

Yes, I found the same stuttering error on the server this morning. Still investigating.

Reset everything and will be keeping an eye on it.
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Posted: Apr 22, 2019 - 6:23am

Ok, I'm onboard.  Using Foobar (v1.2.8) on my XP music puter and VLC on my Windows 7 Internet puter.  The sound and stuttering is the same, although on the Foobar / XP rig I also seem to be hearing some slight volume changes as well during the stuttering.  Perhaps the XP has better sound and is more sensitive.  Sounds great though in between the stuttering.

my ISP is Spectrum with 100 mbs

I'm seeing a VBR averaging around between 950 to 1100 kbs @ 44100 Hz on the display when it stutters (INXS - Suicide Blonde).  It gets even lower when the stream is steady averaging 700 to 950 or perhaps it is due to the content.  This was during Gotye - Heart's A Mess.  IABD - White Bird is back to the 900 to 1100 range.

The volume shifts seems to be gone now that Foobar has been running for about 45 minutes now.  Perhaps the puter and whatnot were just getting settled in.  The volume is constant from track to track. Big Mama Thornton was awesome and I just heard some volume issues with Tommy James.  Back to nice with Belly.  HTH.

The metadata thing sucks for your purposes.  I got over it long ago working with wav files.  The sound was more important to me than the metadata.  I guess for now, keeping the web page up in some form to stay informed is the only way to go.  OTOH, it's like we are back in the old days when things musical moved from AM to FM and the sound was more important than all the signal / equipment drawbacks of FM in those days.  Steely Dan - FM with static or no static at all ?  {#Lol}

You are still a true pioneer in all that you are doing.  What a ride it has been since the beginning of RP.  Live long and prosper, brah !
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