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Posted: Mar 27, 2017 - 9:11am

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I have always respected and admired Ted Koppel. He represents an increasingly rare integrity in broadcast journalism. Sean Hannity? Well, he's popular according to the numbers, and perhaps his personal integrity is no worse than anyone else in the world of ideologically constrained thought. Personally I find the Hannity and Maddow, etc mindset to be destructive to the very people they purport to serve. Hannity's delivery seems to me no more than parroted egotism in the guise of relevant information. A total waste of my precious time. Carnival barkers lost their charm for me when I found out the two headed baby was a fake...


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Posted: Mar 25, 2017 - 5:27am

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Posted: Mar 25, 2017 - 4:54am

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Someone was toying around with the keyboard with this
In the story on the CBS News website on the Ryan/GOP/ACA/AHCA canceled House vote, here is the last paragraph,...
.
 Ryan informed members of the Republican caucus of his decision to cancel the vote during a meeting shortly after the cancellation.
Following the meeting, Rep. Bill Flores of Texas told CBS News’ Walt Cronkite that Ryan told members the GOP would be pulling the bill and moving on to another subject.
Flores said Ryan told the caucus they would focus on other reforms for now.
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link here,
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/no-health-care-bill-vote-ryan-obamacare-stay-foreseeable-future/

 
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Posted: Mar 25, 2017 - 3:59am

Someone was toying around with the keyboard with this
In the story on the CBS News website on the Ryan/GOP/ACA/AHCA canceled House vote, here is the last paragraph,...
.
 Ryan informed members of the Republican caucus of his decision to cancel the vote during a meeting shortly after the cancellation.
Following the meeting, Rep. Bill Flores of Texas told CBS News’ Walt Cronkite that Ryan told members the GOP would be pulling the bill and moving on to another subject.
Flores said Ryan told the caucus they would focus on other reforms for now.
.
link here,
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/no-health-care-bill-vote-ryan-obamacare-stay-foreseeable-future/


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Posted: Mar 24, 2017 - 2:54pm

Trump demands credit for defeating unpopular Trumpcare bill

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Posted: Mar 14, 2017 - 1:14pm

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I've met people who were convinced that Nelson Mandela died in prison in the late 1970s or early '80s; I assumed they were confusing him him Steven Biko.
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Posted: Mar 14, 2017 - 12:39pm

How Facebook, fake news and friends are warping your memory

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Posted: Mar 2, 2017 - 7:06am

This beauty queen was the face of a fake news website. She says she had no idea.
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Posted: Feb 28, 2017 - 12:24pm

Meet Donald Trump's Propagandist
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Posted: Feb 27, 2017 - 4:32pm

 miamizsun wrote:

there's a huge credibility issue as well 

science is antithetical to both religion and politics

you sort of have a religious mythology versus political mythology

politicians will use religion or science as a tool if you will when it suits them (or to their advantage for control)

religions aren't above using political power as well

there's a lot here

 

 
That's where I disagree with you. I know plenty of religious scientists and there are scientific politicians (not to mention political scientists {#Wink}). 

There is a social and political context to science and science should constrain policy. Take the clean air act, for example. Science has abundantly demonstrated the ways that air pollution is bad for human health, ecosystems, and other quality of life aspects that people value. It is clear that the regulatory response to air pollution has mitigated many of those effects and there are scientific data that back that up. If the current US government wants to repeal the act, then they either are saying that they do not value human health and the environment or that there is some non-scientific and non-rational reason that the negative effects of air pollution won't increase. If that is the case it should be up to them to set out how the environmental degradation will be avoided. 
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Posted: Feb 27, 2017 - 4:21pm

It is true the debt outstanding declined by $12 billion in the first month of Donald Trump’s presidency. We applaud the president for focusing on the debt as an important metric of success and economic health, but would point out that the improvement this early in his term has to do with normal fluctuations in spending and revenues rather than new policies he has implemented.

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Posted: Feb 27, 2017 - 4:05pm

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I maintain that the rejection of climate change is strongly related to the rejection of evolution. Once your religion sets itself apart as being incompatible with one aspect of science, then it is easy to reject any other part of science you want. It doesn't help when the religion aligns on the side of politics that sees profit in SSR (Selective Science Rejection - I just made that up {#Laughing})

Additionally, one of the unintended consequences of Al Gore advocating the climate change message is that conservatives reject his message because they reject his politics. You just can't win with some people.

I personally don't reject religion out of hand but believe any belief system should be a superset encompassing science and other truth.

 
there's a huge credibility issue as well 

science is antithetical to both religion and politics

you sort of have a religious mythology versus political mythology

politicians will use religion or science as a tool if you will when it suits them (or to their advantage for control)

religions aren't above using political power as well

there's a lot here

 
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Posted: Feb 27, 2017 - 3:28pm

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The Religious Origins of Fake News and “Alternative Facts”

(...) As we’ve moved from an election dominated by fake news to a new Trump administration run on the principle of “alternative facts,” it’s worth taking some time to ponder what seems to be contemporary conservative credulity. We should certainly be reminded of the term “truthiness” that Stephen Colbert invented in October 2005 to capture some of the pronouncements of the George W. Bush administration. As he explained then, truthiness was the truth that “comes from the gut,” not from actual facts—“the truth we want to exist,” that feels right.

Truthiness is certainly an ancestor of fake news and alternative facts. And the way fake news tends to get better reception among conservatives than liberals, even by a two-to-one margin, has also been recognized. (When one fake news creator was interviewed, he explained, “We’ve tried to do similar things to liberals. It just has never worked, it never takes off. You’ll get debunked within the first two comments, and then the whole thing just kind of fizzles out.”) What is it about Republicans that seems to make them more credulous to fake news than Democrats?

The answer to this question might have to do with the religious roots of today’s Republican Party in the Christian Right. Beginning with the Moral Majority, founded in 1979 by Jerry Falwell and Tim LaHaye, and continuing through church organizations such as Pat Robertson’s Christian Coalition and James Dobson’s Focus on the Family, conservative Christians have helped reshape the Republican Party and its policies. Its “family values” positions on abortion, the sexual revolution, gender roles, pornography, and homosexuality have been heavily influenced by its conservative Christian theology. (...)

Instead, susceptibility to fake news has its particular historical origin in Christian fundamentalism’s rejection of expert elites. (...)



 
I maintain that the rejection of climate change is strongly related to the rejection of evolution. Once your religion sets itself apart as being incompatible with one aspect of science, then it is easy to reject any other part of science you want. It doesn't help when the religion aligns on the side of politics that sees profit in SSR (Selective Science Rejection - I just made that up {#Laughing})

Additionally, one of the unintended consequences of Al Gore advocating the climate change message is that conservatives reject his message because they reject his politics. You just can't win with some people.

I personally don't reject religion out of hand but believe any belief system should be a superset encompassing science and other truth.
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Posted: Feb 27, 2017 - 2:54pm

The Religious Origins of Fake News and “Alternative Facts”

(...) As we’ve moved from an election dominated by fake news to a new Trump administration run on the principle of “alternative facts,” it’s worth taking some time to ponder what seems to be contemporary conservative credulity. We should certainly be reminded of the term “truthiness” that Stephen Colbert invented in October 2005 to capture some of the pronouncements of the George W. Bush administration. As he explained then, truthiness was the truth that “comes from the gut,” not from actual facts—“the truth we want to exist,” that feels right.

Truthiness is certainly an ancestor of fake news and alternative facts. And the way fake news tends to get better reception among conservatives than liberals, even by a two-to-one margin, has also been recognized. (When one fake news creator was interviewed, he explained, “We’ve tried to do similar things to liberals. It just has never worked, it never takes off. You’ll get debunked within the first two comments, and then the whole thing just kind of fizzles out.”) What is it about Republicans that seems to make them more credulous to fake news than Democrats?

The answer to this question might have to do with the religious roots of today’s Republican Party in the Christian Right. Beginning with the Moral Majority, founded in 1979 by Jerry Falwell and Tim LaHaye, and continuing through church organizations such as Pat Robertson’s Christian Coalition and James Dobson’s Focus on the Family, conservative Christians have helped reshape the Republican Party and its policies. Its “family values” positions on abortion, the sexual revolution, gender roles, pornography, and homosexuality have been heavily influenced by its conservative Christian theology. (...)

Instead, susceptibility to fake news has its particular historical origin in Christian fundamentalism’s rejection of expert elites. (...)


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Posted: Feb 27, 2017 - 5:00am

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I know how I want to be treated. I know how I want to treat others.  I know how I want to be thought of and remembered. I know what I want to accomplish. I know what I will do to achieve those accomplishments.

 
all apologies, that's my primal response mechanism bubbling up

that dank bit of cynicism was inspired by those around me dying to use political violence against anyone or anything they don't agree with

i don't think you would point a gun at me or externalize it to some costumed gang

being a real liberal and implementing liberalism takes work, especially up front

it's the polar opposite of what we see with the gop/dem flavors of authoritarianism today

peace


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Posted: Feb 25, 2017 - 12:07pm

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because that's all you know
 
I know how I want to be treated. I know how I want to treat others.  I know how I want to be thought of and remembered. I know what I want to accomplish. I know what I will do to achieve those accomplishments.
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Posted: Feb 25, 2017 - 11:25am

Fox News Interview With Fake Expert on Sweden Further Baffles Swedes
Fox, too, knows the best people...
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Posted: Feb 20, 2017 - 8:27am

 miamizsun wrote:

state guns are being point toward you and your tribe or at the lying sacks on the other side

 
all that matters...
 
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Posted: Feb 20, 2017 - 8:12am

my fellow plebians - it's all fake

in the sense that your rulers, their criers and their mouthpieces have little or no credibility

you're swimming in sea of real misinformation/bs

your confusion has manifested in anger, hate and violence because that's all you know

you've been schooled and conditioned well

state guns are being point toward you and your tribe or at the lying sacks on the other side

it's either or, so follow your clan passionately

and remember, your fake is real because you really know

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