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Posted: Nov 29, 2017 - 1:08pm

 sirdroseph wrote:
However, consider that the Democrats passed and implemented the ACA in an attempt to make health care affordable to all. Attempt? I reckon it might have been that, but I would like to give the architects of this travishamockery (Mitt Romney shout out) the benefit of the doubt that they were really perpetuating a political shell game cause I know they did not really expect the ACA to make health care affordable for all. smh

 


Sorry, you're not sure what you're actually trying to say. You want to give the ACA "architects" the benefit of the doubt that they were really perpetuating a political shell game....? "Benefit of doubt" doesn't seem to be the right phrase...

Shake your head all you want, sirdroseph, but the ACA was a huge policy win. Is it the best this country can do or an acceptable end-state for healthcare here? No. Welcome to democracy and legislative compromise. You might want to ask Bill Clinton, Jimmy Carter and other past presidents about how hard it is to pass this kind of legislation. 

Mittens was a crybaby about the ACA. He had to twist himself into a knot to speak out against the bill—an impressive feat for a man whose own son wasn't sure what he stood for on most policy positions. 
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Posted: Nov 29, 2017 - 5:23am

However, consider that the Democrats passed and implemented the ACA in an attempt to make health care affordable to all.







Attempt? I reckon it might have been that, but I would like to give the architects of this travishamockery (Mitt Romney shout out) the benefit of the doubt that they were really perpetuating a political shell game cause I know they did not really expect the ACA to make health care affordable for all. smh
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Posted: Nov 28, 2017 - 2:37pm

 miamizsun wrote:


i know right?

in spite of it all there are still a lot of people that think russia/putin secretly controls the world and that there is a legitimate difference between the two major political parties in the u$a  {#Money-mouth}


 


"in spite of it all there are still a lot of people that think...there is a legitimate difference between the two major political parties in the u$a"


We could have a pointless all-day discussion about the differences and commonalities of the Dems and GOP. I'm gonna pass on that time-waster. However, consider that the Democrats passed and implemented the ACA in an attempt to make health care affordable to all. The Republicans are trying to dismantle the ACA in order to pay for tax cuts aimed at the top 1%. That's a pretty big difference between the two parties. 

Are both parties partly captured by big money and power elites? Sure. But I have no interest in simplistic assertions that the two parties are one and the same. I went through high school once and have no interest in engaging in a debate pitched to that intellectual level. Or in reading your wistful musings about how much better things would be if only Gary Johnson and the Libertarian party were running the US. 


"in spite of it all there are still a lot of people that think that think russia/putin secretly controls the world"


{#Roflol}{#Roflol}


When you talk about "a lot of people", are you thinking about junior high school kids? Because I don't know any informed adults who have that opinion. 

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Posted: Nov 28, 2017 - 1:17pm

Suddenly, I’m a ‘Russian Agent’!
(...) You simply cannot say such undeniably factually correct things on a US news program, but you can say them on RT.

I’m under no illusion that RT is some sainted news organization that doesn’t have a pro-Russian point of view. Of course it does, just as the government-funded BBC has a pro-British perspective. But I also well know (having worked for years as a staff journalist for major US news organizations), that every corporate news outlet in the US has a pro-US point of view, and that particularly where the story involves both US and Russian interests, as in the case of Ukraine and Syria, the whole truth is not being told by any Russian or US news organization. If I can get a bit of the truth out by talking on RT to counter propaganda and untruths in the US media, so much the better. I would hope that American viewers would have the sense to know that if they watch the news on RT, they are getting a pro-Russian perspective and to take what they see and hear with a grain of salt, just as I would hope they would consider American news reports with the same degree of skepticism (that may be optimistic!). (...)


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Posted: Nov 28, 2017 - 6:06am

 miamizsun wrote:
Who knew the republic was so vulnerable that our elections could be monkeywrenched by Russian dirty-tricksters spending their office coffee budget on a motley collection of social media ads that would make the authors of Nigerian prince scam emails wince at their clumsiness?
 
Stopped reading here because it's a Trumpian move to frame a problem in childish terms in order to make it seem insignificant, and anyway, Facebook ads are just one facet of the problem. A bigger issue was the years spent by volunteers or NGOs advancing a non-US agenda in website forums of all shapes and sizes. This is untrackable plus it doesn't have a Twitter/Facebook corporation that we can blame, so it's not very good material for grandstanding. 
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Posted: Nov 28, 2017 - 4:12am

 kcar wrote:

I did not know that Dianne Feinstein is a greater threat to America than Russia is. I did not know that. 

{#Roflol}
If the Russians had meddled to help the Democrats in 2016, the GOP would be braying for war and FOX would be handing out AR-15s. The GOP is hardly a friend of the press, btw.
 

i know right?

in spite of it all there are still a lot of people that think russia/putin secretly controls the world and that there is a legitimate difference between the two major political parties in the u$a  {#Money-mouth}



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Posted: Nov 27, 2017 - 10:26pm

 miamizsun wrote:

Cynical Politicians Turn #FakeNews Into a Rallying Cry for Censorship

Forget petty Russian meddling in American elections; the greater threat is government messing with our freedom.

Who knew the republic was so vulnerable that our elections could be monkeywrenched by Russian dirty-tricksters spending their office coffee budget on a motley collection of social media ads that would make the authors of Nigerian prince scam emails wince at their clumsiness?

Or, more likely, cynical politicians are making much ado about Putin and company's low-rent effort to make themselves look relevant in order to justify government interference in political speech. Just consider Sen. Dianne Feinstein's (D-Calif.) threat to Facebook, Google, and Twitter during Senate hearings over the clumsy Russky meddling: "You created these platforms, and now they're being misused. And you have to be the ones who do something about it—or we will."

Feinstein thinks government should exercise more control over speech? Such a shocker—unless you saw her try to smother encryption in 2016, or heard her insist in 2015 that edgy material like The Anarchist Cookbook "should be removed from the internet" or her similar effort to ban bomb-making instructions in 1997. And then there was her scheme to narrowly define "journalists" to limit legal protections for people reporting news events, and her vote for the COICA billthat would seize domain names from websites accused of piracy… 

Feinstein is hardly alone in these efforts at muzzling unwelcome voices—18 other senators joined her on that COICA vote. Alternet's Max Blumenthal points out that "the liberal Democrats in #TechHearings are most outspoken opponents of press freedom & supporters of media censorship," but the latest stab at regulating online political ads draws support from both sides of the aisle (co-sponsor Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) rivals Feinstein in the degree to which he disdainsunfettered speech). So it's business as usual for legislators who apparently see everything as justification for a mass purchase of blue pencils.



 

I did not know that Dianne Feinstein is a greater threat to America than Russia is. I did not know that. 

{#Roflol}


If the Russians had meddled to help the Democrats in 2016, the GOP would be braying for war and FOX would be handing out AR-15s. The GOP is hardly a friend of the press, btw. 


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Posted: Nov 27, 2017 - 10:07pm

 islander wrote:

These are all the people I hated in High School, then again in College, and then every day since. Rich, empowered fuckwads, the whole lot of them aren't worth the sack to drown them in. 

 
The most aggravating part of it is that the flimflam artist is a "charity."
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Posted: Nov 27, 2017 - 10:02pm

 R_P wrote: 
These are all the people I hated in High School, then again in College, and then every day since. Rich, empowered fuckwads, the whole lot of them aren't worth the sack to drown them in. 
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Posted: Nov 27, 2017 - 8:30pm

A woman approached The Post with dramatic — and false — tale about Roy Moore. She appears to be part of undercover sting operation.
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Posted: Nov 7, 2017 - 12:26pm

Cynical Politicians Turn #FakeNews Into a Rallying Cry for Censorship

Forget petty Russian meddling in American elections; the greater threat is government messing with our freedom.

Who knew the republic was so vulnerable that our elections could be monkeywrenched by Russian dirty-tricksters spending their office coffee budget on a motley collection of social media ads that would make the authors of Nigerian prince scam emails wince at their clumsiness?

Or, more likely, cynical politicians are making much ado about Putin and company's low-rent effort to make themselves look relevant in order to justify government interference in political speech. Just consider Sen. Dianne Feinstein's (D-Calif.) threat to Facebook, Google, and Twitter during Senate hearings over the clumsy Russky meddling: "You created these platforms, and now they're being misused. And you have to be the ones who do something about it—or we will."

Feinstein thinks government should exercise more control over speech? Such a shocker—unless you saw her try to smother encryption in 2016, or heard her insist in 2015 that edgy material like The Anarchist Cookbook "should be removed from the internet" or her similar effort to ban bomb-making instructions in 1997. And then there was her scheme to narrowly define "journalists" to limit legal protections for people reporting news events, and her vote for the COICA billthat would seize domain names from websites accused of piracy… 

Feinstein is hardly alone in these efforts at muzzling unwelcome voices—18 other senators joined her on that COICA vote. Alternet's Max Blumenthal points out that "the liberal Democrats in #TechHearings are most outspoken opponents of press freedom & supporters of media censorship," but the latest stab at regulating online political ads draws support from both sides of the aisle (co-sponsor Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) rivals Feinstein in the degree to which he disdainsunfettered speech). So it's business as usual for legislators who apparently see everything as justification for a mass purchase of blue pencils.


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Posted: Sep 27, 2017 - 12:02pm

Trump’s tweets to become erudite discourses of political philosophy
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Posted: Aug 17, 2017 - 2:28pm

Trump the chump...
General Pershing on How to Stop Islamic Terrorists
U.S. General John J. Pershing did not effectively discourage Muslim terrorists in the Philippines by killing them and burying and their bodies along with those of pigs


A Long-buried War with the Moros
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Posted: Aug 5, 2017 - 3:35pm

Remembering the Gulf of Tonkin, and the Consequences of Wanting to Believe | FAIR
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Posted: Jun 9, 2017 - 12:21pm

Breitbart misrepresents research from 58 scientific papers to falsely claim that they disprove human-caused global warming
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Posted: Mar 30, 2017 - 3:32am

How US Flooded the World with Psyops

President Reagan meets with publisher Rupert Murdoch, U.S. Information Agency Director Charles Wick, lawyers Roy Cohn and Thomas Bolan in the Oval Office on Jan. 18, 1983.


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Posted: Mar 28, 2017 - 6:36am

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saw something this morning that CBS edited this video to make Hannitty look bad?
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Posted: Mar 27, 2017 - 2:07pm

if anyone has a link for flake news...

i need to catch up on what the hell hasn't happened

this way, if it ever happens, i'm good 
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Posted: Mar 27, 2017 - 9:18am

 Red_Dragon wrote:

fake news

 
It's got you hook, line, and sinker (stinker)
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Posted: Mar 27, 2017 - 9:16am

 oldviolin wrote:

I have always respected and admired Ted Koppel. He represents an increasingly rare integrity in broadcast journalism. Sean Hannity? Well, he's popular according to the numbers, and perhaps his personal integrity is no worse than anyone else in the world of ideologically constrained thought. Personally I find the Hannity and Maddow, etc mindset to be destructive to the very people they purport to serve. Hannity's delivery seems to me no more than parroted egotism in the guise of relevant information. A total waste of my precious time. Carnival barkers lost their charm for me when I found out the two headed baby was a fake...

 
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