Of course it will be; and it will be Donnie and his minions fault. Just like all previous Rethuglican administrations. Don't tax, just spend! Especially on wars!
You and Islander might be interested in this book, which I'm currently schlepping through. At times I've wondered whether the author is making too much of the enduring nature of socio-cultural trends in each region of the US, but overall the book is damned good.
According to award-winning journalist and historian Colin Woodard, North America is made up of eleven distinct nations, each with its own unique historical roots. In American Nations he takes readers on a journey through the history of our fractured continent, offering a revolutionary and revelatory take on American identity, and how the conflicts between them have shaped our past and continue to mold our future. From the Deep South to the Far West, to Yankeedom to El Norte, Woodard (author of American Character: A History of the Epic Struggle Between Individual Liberty and the Common Good) reveals how each region continues to uphold its distinguishing ideals and identities today, with results that can be seen in the composition of the U.S. Congress or on the county-by-county election maps of this year's Trump versus Clinton presidential election. Woodard based his book in part on "Albion's Seed" by David Hackett Fischer, a highly respected historian (who AFAIK still lives in my hometown...).
This fascinating book is the first volume in a projected cultural history of the United States, from the earliest English settlements to our own time. It is a history of American folkways as they have changed through time, and it argues a thesis about the importance for the United States of having been British in its cultural origins.
While most people in the United States today have no British ancestors, they have assimilated regional cultures which were created by British colonists, even while preserving ethnic identities at the same time. In this sense, nearly all Americans are "Albion's Seed," no matter what their ethnicity may be. The concluding section of this remarkable book explores the ways that regional cultures have continued to dominate national politics from 1789 to 1988, and still help to shape attitudes toward education, government, gender, and violence, on which differences between American regions are greater than between European nations.
I think a lot of the culture of the East Coast (as well as Vermont and Pennsylvania) is - to some extent - based in the cultures of the original 13 colonies (consciously or not). You've probably noticed that the Northeast also has a distinctly different culture than the Southeast - having moved from the former to the latter, I became acutely aware of that pretty quickly. It is a huge country, but it's hard to say how and why different regions vary - or if that's really a problem. I imagine there were proposals to set up "satellite" national capitols in the Midwest/Great Lakes area or on the West Coast over the years.
You and Islander might be interested in this book, which I'm currently schlepping through. At times I've wondered whether the author is making too much of the enduring nature of socio-cultural trends in each region of the US, but overall the book is damned good.
According to award-winning journalist and historian Colin Woodard, North America is made up of eleven distinct nations, each with its own unique historical roots. In American Nations he takes readers on a journey through the history of our fractured continent, offering a revolutionary and revelatory take on American identity, and how the conflicts between them have shaped our past and continue to mold our future. From the Deep South to the Far West, to Yankeedom to El Norte, Woodard (author of American Character: A History of the Epic Struggle Between Individual Liberty and the Common Good) reveals how each region continues to uphold its distinguishing ideals and identities today, with results that can be seen in the composition of the U.S. Congress or on the county-by-county election maps of this year's Trump versus Clinton presidential election.
Woodard based his book in part on "Albion's Seed" by David Hackett Fischer, a highly respected historian (who AFAIK still lives in my hometown...).
This fascinating book is the first volume in a projected cultural history of the United States, from the earliest English settlements to our own time. It is a history of American folkways as they have changed through time, and it argues a thesis about the importance for the United States of having been British in its cultural origins.
While most people in the United States today have no British ancestors, they have assimilated regional cultures which were created by British colonists, even while preserving ethnic identities at the same time. In this sense, nearly all Americans are "Albion's Seed," no matter what their ethnicity may be. The concluding section of this remarkable book explores the ways that regional cultures have continued to dominate national politics from 1789 to 1988, and still help to shape attitudes toward education, government, gender, and violence, on which differences between American regions are greater than between European nations.
A lot of asterisks in there. And some pre-colony births too.
I've traveled a lot, so I've had good exposure to the different attitudes in different areas of the country. But when my old company (in Seattle) was purchased by a group from Virginia and I had to cross manage personnel and expectations, I got a crash course in how different the cultures were. Ultimately it didn't work out for me (or many others). Having this much government control based on the East coast, and knowing how much the cultures are different, it does make me think we need better representation back there. It also makes me wonder about how wise it is to have a country this large with a central government. Maybe if there weren't so much vested in power and control, we could appreciate our differences more?
I think a lot of the culture of the East Coast (as well as Vermont and Pennsylvania) is - to some extent - based in the cultures of the original 13 colonies (consciously or not). You've probably noticed that the Northeast also has a distinctly different culture than the Southeast - having moved from the former to the latter, I became acutely aware of that pretty quickly. It is a huge country, but it's hard to say how and why different regions vary - or if that's really a problem. I imagine there were proposals to set up "satellite" national capitols in the Midwest/Great Lakes area or on the West Coast over the years.
Ooops, I think Chester A. Arthur was born in Vermont and Grover 'The Clover' Cleveland was born in NJ - but I guess they both grew up in NY State. I was referring to populations of states which border the Atlantic, not counties - something like 36% of the population live in those states. I think the most Presidents were born in VA - obviously mostly from post-colonial days but some later in history.
A lot of asterisks in there. And some pre-colony births too.
I've traveled a lot, so I've had good exposure to the different attitudes in different areas of the country. But when my old company (in Seattle) was purchased by a group from Virginia and I had to cross manage personnel and expectations, I got a crash course in how different the cultures were. Ultimately it didn't work out for me (or many others). Having this much government control based on the East coast, and knowing how much the cultures are different, it does make me think we need better representation back there. It also makes me wonder about how wise it is to have a country this large with a central government. Maybe if there weren't so much vested in power and control, we could appreciate our differences more?
Okay, redirecting this over here because threadjack and all...
I'm genuinely curious about this so I dug a little. in 2010, 39% of the population lived in counties that bordered the coast. That is only about 10% of the US landmass. That also includes west and gulf coasts, so I don't think 36% could live just on the Atlantic. I also got 7 from NY -
Interesting that you have to get pretty recent before you get any west coast representation - I would expect that early on, but you have to go all the way to Hoover before you get to a Western state. And then you jump to CA, and the intermediate west (NV, AZ, UT, WY, CO, OK, NE...) are skipped. In all, almost half (22/45) come from NY, OH, VA, and MA. Some of that is due to history and geographic expansion, but some of that is still post westward expansion. Small sample size, population density, politics etc. Still feels like time for the west to give it a go.
Ooops, I think Chester A. Arthur was born in Vermont and Grover 'The Clover' Cleveland was born in NJ - but I guess they both grew up in NY State. I was referring to populations of states which border the Atlantic, not counties - something like 36% of the population live in those states. I think the most Presidents were born in VA - obviously mostly from post-colonial days but some later in history.
Isn't it about time we had a coastal (non-NY) president/candidate? There are a lot of people (39%+) that live in counties that border the salt water (yes, including NY), and you have to go back to Reagan to find a pres from there.... well Bush, sort of, again NE influence (and I guess Texas technically, but I think of that more as 'heartland').... I need to work on these definitions. /wrongthread
Only six presidents were born in NY State. Anyhow, Republicans/Conservatives have repeatedly pushed the notion that "coastal" politicians are "the elite", so there's that resistance as well. Actually, something like 36% of the US population live in states on the Atlantic Coast (from Maine to Florida).
Okay, redirecting this over here because threadjack and all...
I'm genuinely curious about this so I dug a little. in 2010, 39% of the population lived in counties that bordered the coast. That is only about 10% of the US landmass. That also includes west and gulf coasts, so I don't think 36% could live just on the Atlantic. I also got 7 from NY -
Interesting that you have to get pretty recent before you get any west coast representation - I would expect that early on, but you have to go all the way to Hoover before you get to a Western state. And then you jump to CA, and the intermediate west (NV, AZ, UT, WY, CO, OK, NE...) are skipped. In all, almost half (22/45) come from NY, OH, VA, and MA. Some of that is due to history and geographic expansion, but some of that is still post westward expansion. Small sample size, population density, politics etc. Still feels like time for the west to give it a go.
that was funny, "turn Cracker Barrel into Crate And Barrel" I have never seen an Academy Award show and I don't think tomorrow night is the time to start watching I'm sure it will be a contest to see who can do the biggest anti-Trump rant, my wife used to go to an Academy Award party with her lady friends until a few years ago because at that time of night she's done for the day (MS) but she heard the other day that they aren't going to have it this year because they think it will be just a night of Trump bashing, which is fine with them but that's not why they watch
, "turn Cracker Barrel into Crate And Barrel" 
