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Posted: Sep 3, 2020 - 2:26pm



 steeler wrote:


 KarmaKarma wrote:

 

Barr talking out of his ass — again.

From the Washington Post:“A bipartisan commission chaired by Jimmy Carter and James Baker said back in 2009,” Barr said, “that a mail-in voting is fraught with the risk of fraud and coercion."

No, it didn’t. The Carter-Baker commission, which completed its work in 2005, did include in its report an assertion that "bsentee ballots remain the largest source of potential voter fraud.” That claim was based on another report, from the Century Foundation.

Notice the important difference between what the Carter-Baker team wrote and what Barr said. Barr claimed that mail-in voting was “fraught with risk.” The commission said that it was “the largest source of fraud” — but not that fraud is common, because it isn't.

Before compiling its report, the group looked at existing mail-in voting systems and offered recommendations for change. This was 15 years ago, since which states have broadly expanded mail-in voting options. A Post analysis of 14.6 million ballots cast by mail in 2016 and 2018 found only 372 possible instances in which someone might have voted twice or where a ballot might have been submitted for a deceased person. If each of those votes was, in fact, fraudulent, it would mean that 0.003 percent of votes in those two years were suspect. To put that in grim context, that’s 1/22nd the percentage of Americans who have died of the coronavirus. If all of those ballots were actually fraudulent

One person who doesn’t believe the Carter-Baker commission’s admonitions should apply this year? Jimmy Carter.



Carter Center Statement on Voting by Mail for 2020 U.S. Elections

May 06, 2020ATLANTA (May 6, 2020) — The United States faces a series of critical challenges because of the COVID-19 pandemic, including serious impediments to holding safe, secure, and inclusive elections in November. Many voters across the U.S. are likely to find themselves in areas where the pandemic has not abated and where the health risks involved in going to polling locations will be unacceptably high.

To address this threat, The Carter Center urges federal and state governments to expand access to vote-by-mail options and to provide adequate funding as quickly as possible to allow for the additional planning, preparation, equipment, and public messaging that will be required.

The nonpartisan 2005 Commission on Federal Election Reform, co-chaired by former U.S. President Jimmy Carter and former Secretary of State James A. Baker III, noted among its many findings and recommendations that because it takes place outside the regulated environment of local polling locations, voting by mail creates increased logistical challenges and the potential for vote fraud, especially if safeguards are lacking or when candidates or political party activists are allowed to handle mail-in or absentee ballots.

However, the Carter-Baker Commission found that where safeguards for ballot integrity are in place – for example in Oregon, where the entire state has voted by mail since 1998 – there was little evidence of voter fraud. The commission’s main recommendations on vote-by-mail and absentee voting were to increase research on vote-by-mail (and early voting) and to eliminate the practice of allowing candidates or party workers to pick up and deliver absentee ballots. Fortunately, since 2005, many states have gained substantial experience in vote-by-mail and have shown how key concerns can be effectively addressed through appropriate planning, resources, training, and messaging.

“I urge political leaders across the country to take immediate steps to expand vote-by-mail and other measures that can help protect the core of American democracy – the right of our citizens to vote,” said former President Carter.





 

Great, great post. Thank you very much.    
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Posted: Sep 3, 2020 - 1:35pm


The con-in-chief...
Under election law in North Carolina, where an estimated 600,000 voters have requested absentee ballots for November, it is illegal for "any person with intent to commit a fraud to register or vote at more than one precinct or more than one time, or to induce another to do so, in the same primary or election, or to vote illegally at any primary or election."

steeler

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Posted: Sep 3, 2020 - 12:51pm



 KarmaKarma wrote:

 

Barr talking out of his ass — again.

From the Washington Post:

“A bipartisan commission chaired by Jimmy Carter and James Baker said back in 2009,” Barr said, “that a mail-in voting is fraught with the risk of fraud and coercion."

No, it didn’t. The Carter-Baker commission, which completed its work in 2005, did include in its report an assertion that "bsentee ballots remain the largest source of potential voter fraud.” That claim was based on another report, from the Century Foundation.

Notice the important difference between what the Carter-Baker team wrote and what Barr said. Barr claimed that mail-in voting was “fraught with risk.” The commission said that it was “the largest source of fraud” — but not that fraud is common, because it isn't.

Before compiling its report, the group looked at existing mail-in voting systems and offered recommendations for change. This was 15 years ago, since which states have broadly expanded mail-in voting options. A Post analysis of 14.6 million ballots cast by mail in 2016 and 2018 found only 372 possible instances in which someone might have voted twice or where a ballot might have been submitted for a deceased person. If each of those votes was, in fact, fraudulent, it would mean that 0.003 percent of votes in those two years were suspect. To put that in grim context, that’s 1/22nd the percentage of Americans who have died of the coronavirus. If all of those ballots were actually fraudulent

One person who doesn’t believe the Carter-Baker commission’s admonitions should apply this year? Jimmy Carter.

Carter Center Statement on Voting by Mail for 2020 U.S. Elections

May 06, 2020

ATLANTA (May 6, 2020) — The United States faces a series of critical challenges because of the COVID-19 pandemic, including serious impediments to holding safe, secure, and inclusive elections in November. Many voters across the U.S. are likely to find themselves in areas where the pandemic has not abated and where the health risks involved in going to polling locations will be unacceptably high.

To address this threat, The Carter Center urges federal and state governments to expand access to vote-by-mail options and to provide adequate funding as quickly as possible to allow for the additional planning, preparation, equipment, and public messaging that will be required.

The nonpartisan 2005 Commission on Federal Election Reform, co-chaired by former U.S. President Jimmy Carter and former Secretary of State James A. Baker III, noted among its many findings and recommendations that because it takes place outside the regulated environment of local polling locations, voting by mail creates increased logistical challenges and the potential for vote fraud, especially if safeguards are lacking or when candidates or political party activists are allowed to handle mail-in or absentee ballots.

However, the Carter-Baker Commission found that where safeguards for ballot integrity are in place – for example in Oregon, where the entire state has voted by mail since 1998 – there was little evidence of voter fraud. The commission’s main recommendations on vote-by-mail and absentee voting were to increase research on vote-by-mail (and early voting) and to eliminate the practice of allowing candidates or party workers to pick up and deliver absentee ballots. Fortunately, since 2005, many states have gained substantial experience in vote-by-mail and have shown how key concerns can be effectively addressed through appropriate planning, resources, training, and messaging.

“I urge political leaders across the country to take immediate steps to expand vote-by-mail and other measures that can help protect the core of American democracy – the right of our citizens to vote,” said former President Carter.



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Posted: Sep 3, 2020 - 11:36am



 haresfur wrote:

Trump suggests voting twice, once by mail and once in person

(intentionally voting twice is illegal)
 

So there will be the expected Trump Chaos when it appears that he's won, and it's announced, and then there's the tedious process of eliminating the GOP fraudulent ballots. Of course, he'll announce that he's won (remember "total exoneration"?) and it'll be necessary to walk it back. While he tells his supporters that it's all rigged! (like he said before)

THE PRESIDENT OF THE USA IS ENCOURAGING HIS SUPPORTS TO COMMIT A FELONY

Note that he will not be guilty of a felony for suggesting it, just his supporters that fall for this.
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Posted: Sep 3, 2020 - 6:40am


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Posted: Sep 3, 2020 - 1:56am

Another interesting not nearly talked about enough side effect of the Trump presidency is the morphing of the Democratic party into a vehicle for US intelligence both the CIA and the FBI.  This should make foreign policy and social justice progressives head explode, but Orange Man Bad.™
 
 

The CIA Democrats in the 2020 Elections. More Military-Intelligence and FBI Candidates

 
In the course of the 2018 elections, a large group of former military-intelligence operatives entered capitalist politics as candidates seeking the Democratic Party nomination in 50 congressional seats—nearly half the seats where the Democrats were targeting Republican incumbents or open seats created by Republican retirements. Some 30 of these candidates won primary contests and became the Democratic candidates in the November 2018 election, and 11 of them won the general election, more than one quarter of the 40 previously Republican-held seats captured by the Democrats as they took control of the House of Representatives. In 2020, the intervention of the CIA Democrats continues on what is arguably an equally significant scale.



With Kamala Harris onboard looks like the Democratic party is the true party of law and order.  So much irony my shirts will be perpetually wrinkle free.  Now what was it you didn't like about the Libertarian party again?  Follow the true justice and see where it leads you or don't.   Elections have become virtually useless and yet the ballot box is our only recourse to break the duopoly, more irony.  Have fun with your Ds and Rs.

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Posted: Sep 2, 2020 - 6:54pm

Trump suggests voting twice, once by mail and once in person

(intentionally voting twice is illegal)
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Posted: Sep 2, 2020 - 5:55am

 Steely_D wrote:
 
this is great, love todd, but what does gary spivey have to say about 2020?
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Posted: Sep 1, 2020 - 9:58am



 Steely_D wrote:

 
Thanks for that, I've heard he was doing something like this but misplaced the thought in my overtaxed brain and never followed up. Time to catch up on it.

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Posted: Sep 1, 2020 - 9:19am

US presidents and oil production: A deep dive into Obama and Trump records, Biden’s proposed plan

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Conclusion

If Joe Biden becomes the next US president, there are clear expectations of an increased focus on the environmental aspects of US oil and gas operations. While some additional environmental policies might challenge the US producers’ economics, it is quite possible that Biden’s policies will be beneficial for them – at least in the short term.

A potential end to the ongoing trade war with China would surely help support demand and oil prices. Similarly, an increase in measures to prevent the spread of Covid-19 would benefit oil prices in 2021–2022 in our view. A potential fracking ban on federal land, as discussed above, would also most likely have a positive impact on oil prices in the short term.

Taking all these factors into consideration, it seems entirely plausible that the US oil and gas industry could benefit from a Biden presidency during the first quarters of his term amid a recovery in oil prices.

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Posted: Aug 31, 2020 - 4:48pm


miamizsun

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Posted: Aug 30, 2020 - 10:10am

 Steely_D wrote:
The post office can handle most Americans sending dozens of Christmas cards but can't handle a single ballot from them? 
Obviously, timing is the important factor here.
 

yes it could and i think mail in ballots may be handled differently


Steely_D

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Posted: Aug 30, 2020 - 8:10am

The post office can handle most Americans sending dozens of Christmas cards but can't handle a single ballot from them? 
Obviously, timing is the important factor here.
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Posted: Aug 30, 2020 - 6:05am

 miamizsun wrote:


if you're talking about the politicians that's been going on for quite some time
 
I was actually talking about the hyper politically involved supporters of these politicians, parties and ideologies.  The reaching, twisting and looking away into the air and whistling dependent on the agenda of their "team" has reached epic proportions.{#Eek}
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Posted: Aug 30, 2020 - 6:00am

 ScottN wrote:

If I have have to crawl over unmasked banana slugs, who are themselves crawling over broken glass, I will put on my hazmat ppe and do that crawl, if necessary, to vote in person. No matter what.
 
Yes I see no reason why you can't.
 
 
ScottN

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Posted: Aug 29, 2020 - 9:59pm

 miamizsun wrote:
friendly advice: if at all possible don't count on the usps for voting

Early voting by state

It's best to double check with your state for any recent changes to early voting in your state.
 
If I have have to crawl over unmasked banana slugs, who are themselves crawling over broken glass, I will put on my hazmat ppe and do that crawl, if necessary, to vote in person. No matter what.
westslope

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Posted: Aug 29, 2020 - 5:40pm



 sirdroseph wrote:
The only thing the active "Left" and "Right" share these days is an appalling lack of accountability.
 
Yes.  I sometimes wonder if transparency and accountability are dirty words in British Columbia municipal and provincial politics.

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Posted: Aug 29, 2020 - 2:24pm

Top intelligence office informs congressional committees it'll no longer brief on election security
miamizsun

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Posted: Aug 29, 2020 - 10:17am

friendly advice: if at all possible don't count on the usps for voting


Early voting by state

It's best to double check with your state for any recent changes to early voting in your state.
miamizsun

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Posted: Aug 29, 2020 - 10:13am

 sirdroseph wrote:
The only thing the active "Left" and "Right" share these days is an appalling lack of accountability.
 

if you're talking about the politicians that's been going on for quite some time
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