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Posted: Oct 1, 2020 - 9:24pm


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Posted: Oct 1, 2020 - 9:16pm

White Supremacist Who Organized Charlottesville Race Riots Endorses Joe Biden


Surprised?

You shouldn't be.


Are you lefties done with your screaming the lie about Trump being a racist yet?  No?  Well, be sure to leave enough time in your day to condemn Biden with at least the same vigor you are expending on Orange Man Bad.


#TrumpLandslide2020  #DemsAreHypocrits
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Posted: Oct 1, 2020 - 7:57pm



 steeler wrote:
Texas Gov. Abbott limits election drop boxes to one per county.

Which party is trying to rig the election?
 

In what version of America do the elected officials decrease the likelihood that the populace can vote?

How can so many folks shrug this off?

Remember: if people can't give feedback to their officials with voting, they're going to turn to Second Amendment remedies. Have you left them any other option?
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Posted: Oct 1, 2020 - 7:53pm

Regarding transcripts ... I just heard a discussion about the Kennedy - Nixon Debates of which I was old enough to have watched and have a grasp of the importance of the event having already participating in the "Duck and Cover" drills.

It was observed that if you listened to the debate on the radio, Nixon won.  But if you watched it live on TV, Kennedy creamed Nixon.

A transcript is just words, without context other than their own meaning.  The context of the speaker itself rarely translates.

There is no substitute for live television (other than an unedited copy of the broadcast).
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Posted: Oct 1, 2020 - 6:54pm

Texas Gov. Abbott limits election drop boxes to one per county.

Which party is trying to rig the election?
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Posted: Oct 1, 2020 - 6:29pm


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Posted: Oct 1, 2020 - 6:06pm



 BillG wrote:
OK, everybody. Let's dial the animosity level back down. Please. 

Remember that RP is the exception to the rule that rational political discussion is impossible these days.

That's the plan, anyway. Thanks for your cooperation.
 


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Posted: Oct 1, 2020 - 5:44pm

OK, everybody. Let's dial the animosity level back down. Please. 

Remember that RP is the exception to the rule that rational political discussion is impossible these days.

That's the plan, anyway. Thanks for your cooperation.
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Posted: Oct 1, 2020 - 5:13pm



 kurtster wrote:

You have become quite the condescending asshole of late.

Do I take this CV 19 shit seriously ?  Fuck yes, dude.  I just bought 400 disposable masks at Sam's Club @ $9 per box of 50.  I still wear gloves with carts and pumping gas.

So either knock your name calling shit off, or fuck off ... your choice. "Diddims"
 

Language, darling, language! 


Yes, I imagine you do take CV19 seriously. You have to in order to stay alive.  But from what I've seen you will not acknowledge at all that Trump has tried for months to dismiss CV19 and also pass off responsibility for containment and testing onto the states. 

You seemed strangely silent when Trump claimed that the coronavirus was going to magically disappear. Which is a bit odd, given the threat it poses to your life and the fact that Trump made that claim at least 34 times. Perhaps I missed your post/s that disagreed with Trump's pronouncements. 

Since you seem engaged in our current affairs, can you tell us Trump's plans to contain the virus? To increase testing and reporting at the federal level? And what are Trump's plans to revive the economy and provide more financial help to individuals and small businesses? It looks to me like Steve Mnuchin is doing all the negotiations with Nancy Pelosi. Trump can barely talk about Covid19 and the economy. 

Have I been condescending towards you lately? Probably. At this point I consider you and other Trump diehards a very real threat to American democracy. If Trump lost the election and refused to leave office, I think you'd tag behind your Drumpfer in perfect lockstep. 

You wanted Trump to burn the house down. Well, he burned the house down. And now you have to wear masks and gloves all day long. You should acknowledge,  if only to yourself, Trump's very real and very large contributions to our current crises.  


BTW: IIRC I saw in one of your posts that you believed the word "dude" should only be used by people who surf or surfed. Check out the etymology of "dude" in your spare time: the word came about to describe people who had nothing to do with surfing. I think Teddy Roosevelt was called a dude by real cowboys. 

https://www.etymonline.com/wor...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

https://www.bbc.com/culture/ar...


And it's "diddums", darling. 


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Posted: Oct 1, 2020 - 4:32pm

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 kurtster wrote:

My bad, fixed.

I'm not talking about the current debate.  I was referring to the Democratic candidate debates earlier this year.

yeah, I try to watch both parties, get my knowledge first hand, not having to rely on pundit's summaries and all the editing that removes the context.
 

Kurt, you are soso brave and wonderful. We'll send you the medal just as soon as you find your chest.  

...

But Trump told Kurt that the virus is going to magically disappear! And the economy's going to take off like a rocket! So Trump doesn't need to plan or act! 
 
You have become quite the condescending asshole of late.

Do I take this CV 19 shit seriously ?  Fuck yes, dude.  I just bought 400 disposable masks at Sam's Club @ $9 per box of 50.  I still wear gloves with carts and pumping gas.

So either knock your name calling shit off, or fuck off ... your choice. "Diddims"
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Posted: Oct 1, 2020 - 4:18pm



 kurtster wrote:

My bad, fixed.

I'm not talking about the current debate.  I was referring to the Democratic candidate debates earlier this year.

yeah, I try to watch both parties, get my knowledge first hand, not having to rely on pundit's summaries and all the editing that removes the context.
 

Kurt, you are soso brave and wonderful. We'll send you the medal just as soon as you find your chest.  


"I was referring to the Democratic candidate debates earlier this year."

And you worry about Joe Biden being senile. Is Aricept right for you, Kurt? 

I just did a word search through the transcripts of all eleven Democratic primary debates (a scheduled twelfth debate was cancelled). Biden said "my time is up" twice during the eleven debates—once on March 15, 2020 and once on January 14, 2020. 


Here's the 1/14/20 instance: 


Joe Biden: (01:20:49)
There should be free, universal infant care, but here’s the deal. I was a single parent too when my wife and daughter were killed. My two boys I had to raise. I was a young Senator. I just hadn’t been sworn in yet, and I was making $42,000 a year. I commuted every single solitary day to Wilmington, Delaware over 500 miles a day. Excuse me, 250 miles a day because I could not afford, but for my family, childcare. It was beyond my reach to be able to do it and that’s why there’s several things we do.

Joe Biden: (01:21:22)
When I tripled the amount of money for title one schools, every child three, four and five-years-old will in fact have full schooling. They’ll go to school and after school programs, which will release some of the burden. Secondly, I think we should have an $8,000 tax credit, which would put 7 million women back to work. They could afford to go to work and still care for their children as an $8,000 tax credit. I also believe that we should, in fact, for people who in fact are not able to afford any of the infant care to be able to get that care. But Bernie’s right. We have to raise the salaries of the people who are doing the care, and I provide for that as well. My time is up. I know, but I’m not going to go over like everybody.



I haven't read the full transcript of this debate, but I don't get the impression that Joe failed to convey his policy plans in the time provided. 




Here's the 3/15/20 instance


Joe Biden: (02:01)
First of all, my heart goes out to those who have already lost someone, or those who are suffering from the virus, and this is bigger than any one of us. This calls for a national rallying to everybody move together, and I laid out in detail what I would do were I president today. You can go to joebiden.com. I laid it out in significant detail, but there are three pieces of this. First of all, have to take care of those who in fact are exposed, or are likely to be exposed to the virus, and that means we have to do testing. We have to get the testing kits up and ready.

Joe Biden: (02:37)
I would have the World Health Organization, I’d take advantage of the test kits they have available to us, even though the president says a million or more are coming, let’s just get all the tests we can done as quickly as we can. Secondly, I would make sure that every state in the union had at least 10 places where they had drive-through testing arrangements. I would also at this point deal with the need to begin to plan for the need for additional hospital beds. We have that capacity in the Department of Defense as well as with the FEMA, and they can set up hundred-bed, 500-bed hospitals and tents quickly.

Joe Biden: (03:12)
We have to lay all that out, but we have to deal with the economic fallout quickly, and that means making sure that people who in fact lose their job, don’t get a paycheck, can’t pay their mortgage, are able to pay it, and pay them now, and do it now. Small businesses be able to borrow interest-free loans. I see my time is up here. You’re going to hold us tightly, I assume, but that’s what I would do. Go to joebiden.com. It lays out precisely what I would do were I president today.




In a little over a minute, Joe provided more COHERENCE and policy specifics than Trump has over 6+ months. Joe called for testing by kits and drive-through spots, ramping up hospital bed capacity, and financial support for average Americans and small businesses. And he points the audience to his Website for a more complete layout of his plans. 

But Trump told Kurt that the virus is going to magically disappear! And the economy's going to take off like a rocket! So Trump doesn't need to plan or act! 
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Posted: Oct 1, 2020 - 3:33pm

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I'm not familiar with the ADL, but the SPLC has been totally discredited.  They are their own self contained hate group.
 
The ADL had issues too. Most organizations eventually have some. By your standard, enough scandals should discredit the GOP/NRA/FOX, but they won't. Expediency. Double standards.
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Posted: Oct 1, 2020 - 3:28pm

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 kurtster wrote:
So have a look.  The represent everything you despise.
 
They've been mentioned here before, so your promo post is pretty pointless. I'll leave discerning readers with some links to gauge the percentage of truth in your promo.

Proud Boys (ADL)
Proud Boys (SPLC)

They represent everything you love (and hate). Maybe get yourself a trendy black shirt too.
 
I'm not familiar with the ADL, but the SPLC has been totally discredited.  They are their own self contained hate group.
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Posted: Oct 1, 2020 - 3:26pm

 kurtster wrote:
So have a look.  The represent everything you despise.
 
They've been mentioned here before, so your promo post is pretty pointless. I'll leave discerning readers with some links to gauge the percentage of truth in your promo.

Proud Boys (ADL)
Proud Boys (SPLC)

They represent everything you love (and hate). Maybe get yourself a trendy black shirt too.
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Posted: Oct 1, 2020 - 3:22pm

 Steely_D wrote:


 kurtster wrote:
How many times did we see Biden look at the clock and stop in the middle of a sentence and say "Oh, my time is up" and stop talking.
 
Zero.
He never did.


Here's the full transcript.


Search for "time is" and it's only hit on once, when Wallace says it to stop Biden from saying more.
Once, Biden says, "do I get my time back?" for obvious reasons.
 
My bad, fixed.

I'm not talking about the current debate.  I was referring to the Democratic candidate debates earlier this year.

yeah, I try to watch both parties, get my knowledge first hand, not having to rely on pundit's summaries and all the editing that removes the context.
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Posted: Oct 1, 2020 - 3:18pm



 kurtster wrote:
How many times did we see Biden look at the clock and stop in the middle of a sentence and say "Oh, my time is up" and stop talking.
 
Zero.
He never did.


Here's the full transcript.


Search for "time is" and it's only hit on once, when Wallace says it to stop Biden from saying more.
Once, Biden says, "do I get my time back?" for obvious reasons.
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Posted: Oct 1, 2020 - 3:11pm

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KK wrote:
And that a large number of their members are black & Hispanic ... ?

Citation please.
 
So our local news / talk afternoon drive guy had a local member on his show this afternoon and spoke about what exactly The Proud Boys is really about.  The are not White Supremacists.  Their membership is very diverse with about 20% black men as well as men of all colors, representing pretty much the diversity of the USA's population.  Among other things they will not initiate any violence, but will not hesitate to defend themselves if attacked and without restraint.  They want to end things quickly and if people get hurt, too bad so sad.  Don't attack them.

It is sad when I searched Google for "the proud boys website" it did not show up until the second search page.  Yeah, Google, unbiased ...

I offer no opinion on them one way or another.  I am very familiar with founder McInnis, having seen him as an frequent guest on FBN's Kennedy show which had a libertarian POV.  Do remember, McInnis is also one of the founders of the Vice Media.

So have a look.  The represent everything you despise.

https://officialproudboys.com/proud-boys/whoaretheproudboys/
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Posted: Oct 1, 2020 - 2:53pm

 R_P wrote:
 Steely_D wrote:
 R_P wrote:
You'd think someone would be able to manage which microphone is on or off...
US elections: Commission takes steps to ‘maintain order’ at next Trump-Biden debates
 
It's a major headache for a broadcast. (...)
 
And?

Debate Commission Considers Granting Mic Control To Moderator

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Do we really want to not see what Trump is really like?

Most have probably seen quite enough. Others see what they want to see.
 
Works for me in this round of debates for this particular election cycle.  Quite frankly, Trump blew it by interrupting Biden just as he was about to ramble into incoherence several times.

Having watched Trump first hand unlike most of you here, he does make adjustments.  He did a great job making the necessary adjustments during the 2016 debates.

The adjustment I was hoping to see was no interruptions with the purpose of totally throwing Biden off of his game which is expecting a food fight and not getting one.  How many times during the Democratic candidate debates earlier this year did we see Biden look at the clock and stop in the middle of a sentence and say "Oh, my time is up" and stop talking.  Can Biden perform without a confrontation ?

Who knows ... the next debate is supposed to be a Town Hall format.  The big problem I see looking at this is that the moderator is a former Biden staffer.  I will expect spit balls thrown at Trump while Biden gets nice juicy slow ones over the plate designed for home runs.
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Posted: Oct 1, 2020 - 2:01pm

 Steely_D wrote:
 R_P wrote:
You'd think someone would be able to manage which microphone is on or off...
US elections: Commission takes steps to ‘maintain order’ at next Trump-Biden debates

 
It's a major headache for a broadcast. (...)
 
And?

Debate Commission Considers Granting Mic Control To Moderator

 Steely_D wrote:
Do we really want to not see what Trump is really like?

Most have probably seen quite enough. Others see what they want to see.
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Posted: Oct 1, 2020 - 1:55pm



 R_P wrote:
You'd think someone would be able to manage which microphone is on or off...
US elections: Commission takes steps to ‘maintain order’ at next Trump-Biden debates

 

It's a major headache for a broadcast. For instance, turning off the mic won't stop someone from talking loudly and disrupting the other person's rejoinder - even though folks at home won't be able to hear what they're saying.
Someone suggested an earpiece that feeds back what they say delayed by a few seconds, but although that might work it'll also lead to "they're feeding him the answers."

Do we really want to not see what Trump is really like? I disagree that there shouldn't be more debates. Or that he should be buffered in some way. Let him speak, be challenged, respond, be chaotic. That - and only that - has the chance of swaying his base or undecideds away from him.
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