I would be worried about violent blowback in which a lot of innocents would be hurt. Question concerning the immediate post-election period: Will pro-Trump police officers keep the peace or will they side with pro-Trump guerrilla?
Interesting is all of the businesses being boarded up anticipating the post election.
Rodeo Drive in Beverly Hills is boarded up and being effectively closed to all traffic including pedestrian.
But who are all of these businesses from coast to coast boarding up to protect themselves from ?
One clue is that many businesses are painting "we support BLM" on the plywood hoping to be spared from any looting and destruction ...
Assume that by time all the votes are tallied, the US will have recorded the largest voter turn out in decades.
If that is the case, then that would/should overall benefit the Democrats. From what I read, new or re-activated voters tend to vote Democrat. That would explain the high-energy Republican efforts to block and remove voters.
Not sure why that would be the case though.
Voter participation rates have trended over the years in many democracies, not just the USA. I always interpreted that as an indicator of contentment with the status quo.
Trump is supposedly popular with non-college educated white males. Why would they not get up off the couch and vote too during a divisive, polarized election campaign? There are more non-college educated white males in the USA than college educated ones.
Donald J. Trump@realDonaldTrump·1h Joe Biden is promising to delay the vaccine and turn America into a prison stateâlocking you in your home while letting far-left rioters roam free. The Biden Lockdown will mean no school, no graduations, no weddings, no Thanksgiving, no Christmas, no Fourth of July, and no future for Americaâs youth. A vote for Biden is a vote for Lockdowns, Layoffs and Misery. Get out and VOTE tomorrow!
Now, really, is that not, shall we say, way over the top rhetoric?
"Truthful hyperbole" a.k.a. unhinged. He forgot the re-education camps.
"He forgot the re-education camps."
Trump needn't fret. Those camps are Kurt's S&M fantasy and he's more than happy to share it with everyone.
Donald J. Trump@realDonaldTrump·1h Joe Biden is promising to delay the vaccine and turn America into a prison stateâlocking you in your home while letting far-left rioters roam free. The Biden Lockdown will mean no school, no graduations, no weddings, no Thanksgiving, no Christmas, no Fourth of July, and no future for Americaâs youth. A vote for Biden is a vote for Lockdowns, Layoffs and Misery. Get out and VOTE tomorrow!
Now, really, is that not, shall we say, way over the top rhetoric?
"Truthful hyperbole" a.k.a. unhinged. He forgot the re-education camps.
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Nov 2, 2020 - 2:53pm
Donald J. Trump@realDonaldTrump·1hJoe Biden is promising to delay the vaccine and turn America into a prison stateâlocking you in your home while letting far-left rioters roam free. The Biden Lockdown will mean no school, no graduations, no weddings, no Thanksgiving, no Christmas, no Fourth of July, and no future for Americaâs youth. A vote for Biden is a vote for Lockdowns, Layoffs and Misery. Get out and VOTE tomorrow!
Now, really, is that not, shall we say, way over the top rhetoric?
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Nov 2, 2020 - 2:28pm
steeler wrote:
ScottN wrote:
Well, the pandemic has become politicized too. Trump can be blamed for a lot; add "everything is weaponized or politicized, or both".
re: early voting. Its huge number is a phenomenon of its own and deserves scrutiny. Is that politicization?
I am not sure I am following entirely. It makes no difference to me whether a person chooses to vote early in person, vote by mail, or vote in person on Election Day. I do not see relevant distinctions.
That said, I do think the massive turnout for this particular election is a worthy topic of discussion in terms of why there is such interest, such galvanizing forces. That is analysis, which, of course, is a political analysis. And I do think the pandemic has an impact on the decisions of some/many voters to vote early or by mail. It is of interest that it seems that way more Democratic voters are choosing to do that than Republicans. Is that due to differing views on the pandemic or other factors?
What I reject is that allowing expanded early voting and voting by mail will result in massive fraud. The suggestion that making it easier to vote is being advanced by forces intent on perpetrating this massive fraud is not something to which I give credence. I view that as blatant political skullduggery.
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Nov 2, 2020 - 2:09pm
ScottN wrote:
Well, the pandemic has become politicized too. Trump can be blamed for a lot; add "everything is weaponized or politicized, or both".
re: early voting. Its huge number is a phenomenon of its own and deserves scrutiny. Is that politicization?
I am not sure I am following entirely. It makes no difference to me whether a person chooses to vote early in person, vote by mail, or vote in person on Election Day. I do not see relevant distinctions.
That said, I do think the massive turnout for this particular election is a worthy topic of discussion in terms of why there is such interest, such galvanizing forces. That is analysis, which, of course, is a political analysis. And I do think the pandemic has an impact on the decisions of some/many voters to vote early or by mail. It is of interest that it seems that way more Democratic voters are choosing to do that than Republicans. Is that due to differing views on the pandemic or other factors?
What I reject is that allowing expanded early voting and voting by mail will result in massive fraud. The suggestion that making it easier to vote is being advanced by forces intent on perpetrating this massive fraud is not something to which I give credence. I view that as blatant political skullduggery.
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Nov 2, 2020 - 2:00pm
steeler wrote:
oldviolin wrote:
It makes me feel more than a little indignant that people now read politics into the act of waiting until voting day to vote. Ironic if not foreboding, don't you think?
Indeed. And vice versa — reading politics into the act of voting early (well, absent the irony).
Well, the pandemic has become politicized too. Trump can be blamed for a lot; add "everything is weaponized or politicized, or both".
re: early voting. Its huge number is a phenomenon of its own and deserves scrutiny. Is that politicization?
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Nov 2, 2020 - 1:51pm
oldviolin wrote:
steeler wrote:
oldviolin wrote:
It makes me feel more than a little indignant that people now read politics into the act of waiting until voting day to vote. Ironic if not foreboding, don't you think?
Indeed. And vice versa â reading politics into the act of voting early (well, absent the irony).
Well sure. I don't see a problem voting early either if that's an accepted process. But if the act of voting itself is to be so politicised that it becomes a faction thing you can throw it out there with the rest of the litter like cigarette butts and condoms and fast food wrappers and used facemasks...
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Yes, it has become politicized in overdrive. My own view is that I do not understand opposition â sincerely held beliefs â to making it easier to vote. To me, the bigger problem has been how relatively few people vote among those who would be eligible to do so. It seems basic to me that we should want people to invest in the process, and to encourage them to do so. (I have never understood why many jurisdictions strip ex-felons of voting rights. Seems counterproductive and counterintuitive.).
It makes me feel more than a little indignant that people now read politics into the act of waiting until voting day to vote. Ironic if not foreboding, don't you think?
Indeed. And vice versa â reading politics into the act of voting early (well, absent the irony).
Well sure. I don't see a problem voting early either if that's an accepted process. But if the act of voting itself is to be so politicised that it becomes a faction thing you can throw it out there with the rest of the litter like cigarette butts and condoms and fast food wrappers and used facemasks...
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Nov 2, 2020 - 12:59pm
oldviolin wrote:
It makes me feel more than a little indignant that people now read politics into the act of waiting until voting day to vote. Ironic if not foreboding, don't you think?
Indeed. And vice versa â reading politics into the act of voting early (well, absent the irony).
It makes me feel more than a little indignant that people now read politics into the act of waiting until voting day to vote. Ironic if not foreboding, don't you think?
What I did not expect is this avalanche of evidence from this year and previous years of Republican Party sponsored attempts to disenfranchise voters. Wow.
Kind of amazing, and shameful. The overt, vulgar, sometimes even violent attempts to prevent American voting is reprehensible. The nudge-wink "fraud" excuse (basically irrelevant and practically nonexistent) used to keep non-Republicans from the polls... (...)
What I did not expect is this avalanche of evidence from this year and previous years of Republican Party sponsored attempts to disenfranchise voters. Wow.
Kind of amazing, and shameful. The overt, vulgar, sometimes even violent attempts to prevent American voting is reprehensible. The nudge-wink "fraud" excuse (basically irrelevant and practically nonexistent) used to keep non-Republicans from the polls...
IT WOULD BE A REAL SHAME since the expectation is that most Republicans vote in person IF SOMEHOW THE ROADS TO THE POLLS WERE CLOGGED ON TUESDAY in heavily Republican areas, right?
I would be worried about violent blowback in which a lot of innocents would be hurt.
Question concerning the immediate post-election period: Will pro-Trump police officers keep the peace or will they side with pro-Trump guerrilla?
What I did not expect is this avalanche of evidence from this year and previous years of Republican Party sponsored attempts to disenfranchise voters. Wow.
Kind of amazing, and shameful. The overt, vulgar, sometimes even violent attempts to prevent American voting is reprehensible. The nudge-wink "fraud" excuse (basically irrelevant and practically nonexistent) used to keep non-Republicans from the polls...
IT WOULD BE A REAL SHAME since the expectation is that most Republicans vote in person IF SOMEHOW THE ROADS TO THE POLLS WERE CLOGGED ON TUESDAY in heavily Republican areas, right?
The Republicans have won the popular vote in 1 of the last 7 Presidential elections. They can't win if the votes of the majority of the country are counted...so find a way to make sure they aren't, especially in the swing states.
