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Posted: Jan 27, 2018 - 9:18pm

 swell_sailor wrote:

Cartridges were not pulled from the production line to determine whether their properties merited SS status. The SS cartridges were manufactured as SS cartridges. The SS was a finer cut Shibata nude mounted on a beryllium cantilever. 

The AT20SS was measured post production to a tighter tolerance than the AT15SS for values such as channel separation and frequency response, etc.

The manufacturing process was one and the same. They were SS cartridges going in and coming out. The best of the batch were labeled AT20SS. 

 
Thanks for the correction on that.  Appreciate it.  Doh !  I just went and reread the owners manual and that is what it says.

My first AT15SS I got complete with the beryllium cantilever with an honest 20 hours of use about two years ago.   The second I just got the cart body without the stylus about a year ago.  I picked up two new old stock ATN20 styluses along the way for backup when the 15SS finally dies.  One is actually a 20SLa.  They have the aluminum cantilever though and its a tad longer so I have a second headshell adjusted for the longer overhang already to go and it also has an azimuth adjustment.  I use the same headshell on both.   I already put the second 15 body with a 20 stylus and for all intents and purposes, it sounds pretty damn good.  At least with these 20's I don't have to go the Jico route.  I've heard of the diamonds falling off in rather short order on those. 

I just love the sound of the AT Shibata's.  I guess it's an acquired taste based upon lots of reading.  Seems few like the sound. (some more reading and most problems result from a preamp mismatch which can make them sound too bright and crappy)  I think I remember you and dave referencing attenuators that you made to deal with this problem.  My very first cart was an AT14Sa back in the 70's.  I expressed an interest in Quad records and that was what was recommended.  Never looked back.  I could no longer find any more OEM styluses for it and horsed around trying to find something to replace it, but was never satisfied.  I even went to AT's US headquarters in Stow to see if they had anything laying around some 20 years ago.  They're only a half an hour from my house.  The guy I met there came up with a DR500LC for a sweetheart deal, nice but it just didn't do it.  Did some homework and found the 15SS's and got one.  Huge difference over the 14.  One year ago there were still a few to be found on Ebay.  Just spent a couple of hours poking around and there are none left, anywhere.  Only one place on the planet still has some NOS ATN20 and AT20SLa's styluses left.  Guess I got lucky and found this stuff at the right time.  I know there are much better TT's out there than what I have, but I prefer DD and for the money and reliability I went with an SL1200.  My first was a SL1700 I bought in 1978 and it still works, but it's a toy compared to the 1200.  I was thinking about getting the new one but for $1700 I'm not willing to risk not hearing any improvement over the one I have.  And I don't want to sleep on the couch for the next couple of years.  Getting the VPI RCM 2 years ago almost did that.  But it is just as important as the TT / cart.  The cleaner, the better, way better ...

I picked up this test LP about a year ago, so when its time to break in a new stylus I have this to use.  Cardas - Frequency Sweep And Burn-In Record  Its pretty interesting and serves the purpose and others, too.  The degaussing feature is pretty interesting.

Anyway,
   



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Posted: Jan 27, 2018 - 1:01pm

Cartridges were not pulled from the production line to determine whether their properties merited SS status. The SS cartridges were manufactured as SS cartridges. The SS was a finer cut Shibata nude mounted on a beryllium cantilever. 

The AT20SS was measured post production to a tighter tolerance than the AT15SS for values such as channel separation and frequency response, etc.

The manufacturing process was one and the same. They were SS cartridges going in and coming out. The best of the batch were labeled AT20SS. 




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Posted: Jan 27, 2018 - 5:56am

 kurtster wrote:

Party on, Garth …

Iffen anyone is interested in the Floyd rip, shoot me a pm and I’ll send you a link.  Side 2 will be broken in two because the file is too big for my platform and I don’t want to resample down to 41 khz to make it fit.  There is a noticeable difference when that happens.



 
Good read. I did a mixtape on an 8-Track once and it was a miserable failure. So i stuck to cassette tapes and later, CDs.


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Posted: Jan 26, 2018 - 8:39pm

Time to clean some static from the attic …

Forever we have been debating Vinyl vs. CD and resolved little.  Perhaps its unresolved simply because of how we define the argument.  If it were not for the efforts of the music industry to try and shake down and squeeze every possible dollar out of music lover’s pocket it wouldn’t matter as much.

Direct digital conversion of analogue master tapes is the entire basis of the discussion.  In this conversion, the goal as we have been told or led to believe is to achieve the same sound as one would get from listening to vinyl.  The warmth, that ‘analogue sound’ without the pops and ticks that are inevitable with an LP or the need for the same level of care needed for LP’s and their playback systems.  

The early CD’s were less than spectacular.  We all know why or do we ?  The conversion of analogue tape to digital is pretty straightforward.  But even with so called remastering of the source for conversion, it entirely skips the mastering process for making a vinyl pressing which is exactly why a record sounds the way it does.  It’s the most critical part of the process and it is totally bypassed. 

Rock and roll and specifically The Beatles are likely responsible for most of the biggest improvements in the record making process.  Until The Beatles came along, there were only two primary recording EQ’s.  Classical and everything else.  I believe it was John who asked George Martin what ‘this switch’ on the console was for and how come we didn’t use it for our recordings ?  Maybe not exactly the way it went down, but its good enough for the point.

Anyway, back to the main point.  As we all know, I’ve gone deep into ripping my LP’s for the purpose of archiving them, making them easily available to play them and prepare for the eventual sale of them.  Once they are gone, that’s it.  I have to live with my rips.  In the past year, I’ve been working on refining every part of the ripping process in order to achieve the best possible take.  Different cleaning solutions and turntable tweaks.  I’m finally satisfied with all of that and the effort has been worth all the fuss, at least imho.  The heart of the system is the cartridge, a vintage 1970’s Audio Technica AT15SS.  Only one level higher at the time was the AT20SS.  A couple of years ago I saw one never used in the box for $1000.  SS stands for super shibata.  Besides the type / shape of the stylus ( an inverted pyramid shape) which was designed for full resolution capture of Quad signals on vinyl, what makes this special is that they were pulled from the production line and tested for their properties.  Only the best were given the SS status.  Among other things, the carts tested dead flat from 20 to 20K hz’s.  They included the actual test tape print in the box.  I have two of these puppies and 2 factory replacement styluses, so I think I’m set for the rest of my days.  Attach them to a Technics SL1200 turntable which is the world standard for speed accuracy and a USB phono preamp that matches the output impedance of the cartridge, I have found my vinyl nirvana.

So why do I devote so much time, energy and resources into this ?  Few if any will ever hear or benefit from this.  It’s a hobby and a passion for starters that began with making mixtapes on 8 Tracks back in the 70’s and has continued to now with a few pauses in between.  Now I’m retired, broke and no longer have the ability to do anything involving anything very physical.  Just an observation of reality, not a whiny complaint.  So I have ton’s of vinyl and the time to go full tilt for as long as my attention span allows.  It’s detailed and time consuming, but I still have my hearing so it feeds my head in just the rights ways, enough so to keep pressing on.  I recently came up with the comparison of building ships in a bottle.  Few get anything out of it besides the builder and no one will ever see it to appreciate all the work involved to do it, but they do it because there is a personal satisfaction in the end.  Who cares if the knots on the sail rigging are correct other than the builder ?

All the work to this point has allowed me a way to unlock the treasure found on a well mastered and pressed LP.  Its long been said and known that most often the first pressing of a record will always be the best just based on the closest proximity to the original master tapes and that the artist being involved at that time.  Not always the case though as found out when Ahmet Ertegen’s daughter tried to play a 1st of LZ II on a cheap portable player and it skipped because the pressing was too hot.  Ertegen immediately ordered it re EQ’ed and made at lower levels in order to play on cheap record players.  Here’s two takes on that.

CLICKY ONE                    

CLICKY TWO  WHY AUDIOPHILES ARE PAYING $1,000 FOR THIS MAN'S VINYL

Why should anyone care about all of this ?  Well if mp3’s make you happy then never mind.  But if you spend money on remastered, new and improved CD’s and vinyl reissues then it might.  This past week I went and ripped 3 different versions of Dark Side Of The Moon.  A 1973 1st US pressing.  A 1973 1st UK Quad pressing and the 1981 MFSL ½ speed master and then compared them to the 1992 Shine On CD box set.  The Quad version is the one I listened to most over the years, never really playing the 1st US pressing.  The 1st US was the winner and over the CD box set version, too. 

Through all of this, I discovered some glitches that existed on every version on both vinyl and CD.  You’d think that with all the technology available, yada … to make all these new and improved versions the best available and worth your hard earned money in another attempt for that finally … perfect version … it’s a fail in that regard.  The imperfections are still there.  So what was gained ?  For you nothing.  For the record companies, everything.  Another sale for something in the can and on the shelf.  I can think of two other tracks off the top of my head that have a glitch that will live on forever.  The Stones, You Can’t Always Get What You Want and Jimi’s, All Along The Watchtower.  No editing known so far has been able to overcome these glitches.  But who listens this close ?  Hardly anyone and as anyone who has played vinyl extensively, you tune out these things in the same way you ignore certain pops and clicks when you listen to an LP.  Its hard to comprehend that if you only heard CD’s but you learned to live with it back in the old days when Vinyl was all we had, Reel to Reel is something else and it was different from the LP, too for the same reasons as CD’s are.

Which leads back me to the original point.  If you want to make a CD that sounds like the vinyl record it tries to imitate, then make a digital recording of the vinyl playback.  It will sound exactly like the record, with all its warmth and analogue sound.  And that is because the mastering for the vinyl was played as intended and intended to sound.  Digital recording is so advanced that you can accurately record nearly anything.  In 16 bit 48khz resolution I’m doing editing down to .000 of a second.  Its amazing what you can see and do with a little pencil tool literally redrawing the wav lines of the file.  And how its impossible hear the changes.  24 / 192 is wonderful for studio work, but for playback and even critical listening, unnecessary, at least in my experience and humble opinion.  Simply transferring an analogue tape master to digital skips the vinyl part and there will never be anyway to imitate that sound when skipping that step.  Sidebar, The Beatles have come consistently closest in all in my listening.  They are one of the few exceptions though.

With all the analogue master tapes from the 50’s, 60’s and 70’s reaching the point of rot and no return, it may come down to the best and most desired digital files of music will be ripped from vinyl records and we will finally have the digital versions of music that was intended from the beginning.  Or not …  Back to building ships in a bottle.  With a little luck, my hard drives will end up in the hands of someone who appreciates what is on them after I’m gone.  Or not …

Party on, Garth …

Iffen anyone is interested in the Floyd rip, shoot me a pm and I’ll send you a link.  Side 2 will be broken in two because the file is too big for my platform and I don’t want to resample down to 41 khz to make it fit.  There is a noticeable difference when that happens.




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Posted: Jan 23, 2018 - 8:58am

Warning   This is 15 minutes of your life that you will never get back.

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Posted: Jan 1, 2018 - 9:45am

 kurtster wrote:
Here's something interesting that you may have always suspected but were afraid to ask ...

They got me, but I got them.  Reading this makes me feel a little bit better about that.
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Four Columbia House insiders explain the shady math behind “8 CDs for a penny”
 
Wow ....

It was an amazing combination of “We are ripping you off like no one has ever ripped anyone off as a per-unit basis,” but ”We are also building a time bomb that’s going to flatten us forever.”


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Posted: Jan 1, 2018 - 9:39am

 kurtster wrote:
That's my biggest problem with the whole thing.  The treatment of the consumer by the industry as a whole, not just Columbia House.  Let's keep reselling this stuff as long as we can, easy money with so many gullibles out there.  Oh, we have another tweak to the masters, that's worth even more and on.  And the artists don't get squat.  

 ...

Happy reading (I did start this thread as a Journal substitute) and a Happy New Year to all. 

y'all ...


Awesome post Kurt, and Happy New Year to you too. 


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Posted: Dec 31, 2017 - 11:35am

 kcar wrote:


I had no idea Columbia House was so shambolic and profitable. I love this quote: 

 I will also add that’s why when Napster came along, and everybody essentially had a digital master in their home—or hundreds of digital masters in their home—that they could upload very, very easily, I cried not a single tear for those motherf———-s. All of a sudden, by thinking, “Sh*tty format, we’re going to mark it up 180 percent, and everybody’s going to buy them.” Well, yeah, they did, and they ripped them and decided to share those files. The thing about that CD format that I still find to be hilarious is it’s, like, they basically gave the bullets for the people to shoot them down once a new platform came along.

 
That's my biggest problem with the whole thing.  The treatment of the consumer by the industry as a whole, not just Columbia House.  Let's keep reselling this stuff as long as we can, easy money with so many gullibles out there.  Oh, we have another tweak to the masters, that's worth even more and on.  And the artists don't get squat.  

CD's changed everything.  A new format and a new way to hold back sound quality from the consumer.  Before we only had vinyl and if you really wanted to go for the best sound you got Reel to Reel.  That was it, 2 choices.  CD's were supposed to relevel the field and everyone could once again have the same access to hifidelity releases.  OBTW, warning, these digital releases may reveal the flaws of the original analogue recordings.  Then came the loudness wars and another opportunity to resell the same old stuff as new and remastered super compressed.

I quit buying music around 1995 until I found RP back in 2001.  I did get into Napster (the real) full tilt, but only looking for old out of print stuff.  Between Napster and RP, I relaunched my love of music.  I've been ripping vinyl since the days of my 8 Track Wollensack Quad recorder.  Then I met hippie here in 2006 and he offered to teach me how to engineer music and I took it from there and worked hard to make CD's sound like the vinyl I remembered in my foggy memory.  Somewhere in the middle, I got sick and everything changed again.

So with my newly found free time, I dug into it again trying to play around with vinyl, but I just didn't have the right stuff to make worthwhile rips and I stuck with CD's and mp3 sources.  Somewhere along the line I read about a guy in Hong Kong who was legendary for his rips of old vinyl and people where paying him $100 for some "needle drops" burned onto CD's.  Can't remember who it was now.

So after all this horsing around, the wife finally got her accident settlement after 5 years from the date, we bought our forever double wide and I got a room for a studio and set up shop, the way I always wanted to.  I was afraid to go into my vinyl and find out how bad it was.  It was in my ex's hands for 2 years and to my relief, she didn't ruin it.  So now that I've invested in all the stuff to make quality rips, I have found that the vinyl when cleaned and played properly is so good that it doesn't need much, if anything to improve it to be as good or better than CD versions.  I have learned to recognize good sound when I hear it.

So then to discogs to formally catalogue my collection and have readily available track lists for the sides that I rip and save me a whole lot of typing.  That is where I find out exactly what I have and don't have, and learn even more about pressings, engineers and most importantly the lacquer cutters.  It is 100% about who did the mastering and lacquer cutting, everything else being equal.  And have learned a whole lot more about the entire process and how it relates to CD's.

A couple of months ago Steely D posted the Rolling Stones in Mono in what are you listening to now.  That caught my immediate interest and after the sticker shock and lot's of digging, I pulled the trigger on the vinyl box.  In my homework, I found a whole discussion of Chinese counterfeit copies of the CD's.  https://www.discogs.com/The-Rolling-Stones-The-Rolling-Stones-In-Mono/master/1068842  scroll down to the comments.

Further digging led me to this article    Q&A with Barry Diament of Soundkeeper Recordings

From my earliest days in CD mastering, I always noticed that the finished CDs from different replication facilities all sound different from each other and none sounds indistinguishable from the CD master used to make it. Often, CDs made on different production lines within the same plant don’t sound like each other either. In all cases, there is a loss of “focus” and fine detail, usually subtle, sometimes not so subtle.
...

Aside from EQ’d copies created during mastering, sometimes the label is not in possession of the original mixed tapes. This is something I encountered a lot while at Atlantic. The originals might be in a musician’s private library or they might be in an overseas tape library. The label receives a “flat” copy of the original tape for use in creating the records or CDs they sell.

Is this important? There is no hard answer. A well made analog tape copy will exhibit a slight increase in background hiss and perhaps a very slight loss of transient speed. However, in my experience, these are of much smaller magnitude than the changes the mastering engineer is going to make. The question is much like asking whether purchasing produce from a gourmet shop will produce a better meal than purchasing it from a supermarket. If all other things are equal, I believe the answer would likely be yes. But all other things are rarely equal. If two different chefs prepare meals from the same ingredients, the results will often be quite different. Personally, I’d rather choose the chef than the ingredients. Put another way, I’d rather listen to a record George Piros mastered from a third generation copy than some other engineer might have mastered from the original studio mixes.

 
Now I get that.  I found my 1977 LZ I GP mastered reissue and holy shit.  It prompted me to just this past week to pull the trigger on a copy from the same series done by him of LZ II after thinking about it for a month or so.  The seller provided me with an mp3 of his rip to hear before buying.  Its supposed to get here Wednesday. {#Jump}

The Page remasters are now from digital copies of the analogue master tapes and then remastered for analogue reconversion to vinyl.  Better to get the files than vinyl if your looking for the best possible version.  Or find a GP version if you really want it on vinyl.  The Rolling Stones Box is also from digital copies of the masters, but considering the content, I said f*ck it, way too expensive to try and find all the individual albums and take chances on vinyl conditions.

Back to ripping ...

Happy reading (I did start this thread as a Journal substitute) and a Happy New Year to all. 

y'all ...




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Posted: Dec 31, 2017 - 8:56am

 kurtster wrote:
Here's something interesting that you may have always suspected but were afraid to ask ...

They got me, but I got them.  Reading this makes me feel a little bit better about that.
.
Four Columbia House insiders explain the shady math behind “8 CDs for a penny”

 

I had no idea Columbia House was so shambolic and profitable. I love this quote: 

 I will also add that’s why when Napster came along, and everybody essentially had a digital master in their home—or hundreds of digital masters in their home—that they could upload very, very easily, I cried not a single tear for those motherf———-s. All of a sudden, by thinking, “Sh*tty format, we’re going to mark it up 180 percent, and everybody’s going to buy them.” Well, yeah, they did, and they ripped them and decided to share those files. The thing about that CD format that I still find to be hilarious is it’s, like, they basically gave the bullets for the people to shoot them down once a new platform came along.


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Posted: Dec 31, 2017 - 6:51am

 kurtster wrote:
Here's something interesting that you may have always suspected but were afraid to ask ...

They got me, but I got them.  Reading this makes me feel a little bit better about that.
.
Four Columbia House insiders explain the shady math behind “8 CDs for a penny”


 
As i was looking for some comfort music, i came across this.

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Posted: Dec 28, 2017 - 4:20pm

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:

That's a terrific article. I'm sure it was discussed here somewhere else (2015) so I'll spare you my CRC memories

 
During one of my memberships with them I actually got them to require a response from me before shipping the pick o dee month.  It took some doing, now I know why.
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Posted: Dec 28, 2017 - 3:57pm

 kurtster wrote:
Here's something interesting that you may have always suspected but were afraid to ask ...

They got me, but I got them.  Reading this makes me feel a little bit better about that.
.
Four Columbia House insiders explain the shady math behind “8 CDs for a penny”

 
That's a terrific article. I'm sure it was discussed here somewhere else (2015) so I'll spare you my CRC memories
kurtster

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Posted: Dec 28, 2017 - 2:08pm

Here's something interesting that you may have always suspected but were afraid to ask ...

They got me, but I got them.  Reading this makes me feel a little bit better about that.
.
Four Columbia House insiders explain the shady math behind “8 CDs for a penny”


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Posted: Dec 17, 2017 - 2:35pm

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Posted: Dec 12, 2017 - 1:35pm

 miamizsun wrote:
not a vinyl guy anymore but i thought this was interesting...

The best vinyl setups for any budget

 
Some good stuff there.  My preamp to the computer is also by project from the first group of equipment there, a different model though with a USB port that I strongly recommend.  Its $200 ±   This one would be the MacDaddy, but for $600 way too rich for my blood, but it will accommodate any cartridge you could throw at it. 

The one thing that all those turntables lack is a height adjustment for the tonearm though.  It really is critical.  Knowing what I know now and if I couldn't find a good used SL1200 , I would buy this, the SL1200GR  ($1700) if money was no object.

I'll try and put together some audio samples of wrong height and correct height shortly.  What put me over the edge was that I changed the height on one LP just a 1/4 mm up (I forget what LP it was) and the difference was breath taking.  


KurtfromLaQuinta

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Posted: Dec 12, 2017 - 12:27pm

 kurtster wrote:
The learning curve never stops, after 50 some years of playing records. 

CLICKY

{#Cheers}  y'all

and Zerostats really work ...

 
Wow!
Sounds great!

All this learning curve stuff reminds me of working on my Six Pack on my truck engine.
So many variables... but when you hit the right combo... all hell breaks lose!  {#Mrgreen}
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Posted: Dec 12, 2017 - 9:25am

not a vinyl guy anymore but i thought this was interesting...

The best vinyl setups for any budget

Listen up: These are the three best vinyl setups, from budget to bougie


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Posted: Dec 11, 2017 - 7:16am

 kurtster wrote:

No I haven't, at least that I remember.  Have to look it up.  Funny, the CD I have of Quadrophenia is from the soundtrack and the LP seems to be put together differently.  I'll go and find the CD and play them against each other just to be sure.

I thought Layla was yer favorite ... {#Smile}  I just happen to be working on both of these albums right now ... Layla just got finished this very morning (waked and baked to), got another day or so for Quadro.

 
I said one of my favorites
meower

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Posted: Dec 11, 2017 - 7:16am

 kurtster wrote:

No I haven't, at least that I remember.  Have to look it up.  Funny, the CD I have of Quadrophenia is from the soundtrack and the LP seems to be put together differently.  I'll go and find the CD and play them against each other just to be sure.

I thought Layla was yer favorite ... {#Smile}  I just happen to be working on both of these albums right now ... Layla just got finished this very morning (waked and baked to), got another day or so for Quadro.

 
I said one of my favorites
kurtster

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Posted: Dec 11, 2017 - 6:58am

 meower wrote:

May very well be one of my favorite albums of all time. Have you seen the movie?

 
No I haven't, at least that I remember.  Have to look it up.  Funny, the CD I have of Quadrophenia is from the soundtrack and the LP seems to be put together differently.  I'll go and find the CD and play them against each other just to be sure.

I thought Layla was yer favorite ... {#Smile}  I just happen to be working on both of these albums right now ... Layla just got finished this very morning (waked and baked to), got another day or so for Quadro.


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