I wanted to hear from the victims of some of the more minor accidents, but they tended to fall into two categories, neither of which predisposed them to talk: They either loved Tesla and Musk and didnât want to say anything negative to the press, or they were suing the company and remaining silent on the advice of counsel. (Umair Ali, whose Tesla steered into a highway barrier in 2017, had a different excuse: âPut me down as declined interview because I donât want to piss off the richest man in the world.â)
He believed in this vision so strongly that it led him to make wild predictions: âMy guess as to when we would think it is safe for somebody to essentially fall asleep and wake up at their destination: probably toward the end of next year,â Musk said in 2019. âI would say I am certain of that. That is not a question mark.â
Generally I would agree but my commute is 50 miles a day and I could totally see having an all-electric for that, then the family van for longer trips. But yeah the range of the Honda Insight we borrowed a couple of times was impressive. Something like 600 miles on a 9 gallon tank.
How's the range on an electric car when the temps are 20 below?
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But how much can it tow? How much can it carry? What kind of range does it have when it's -20? Those body panels look like plastic; I get why they might do that (much lower tooling cost than stamped metal, which keeps the investment down) but how well will it hold up to the abuse it will get in the real world? How easy will it be to fix? What's under that bed cover and how easy does it come off? It's the shape of a pickup but does it function like one?
Building trucks is hard. Large, well-funded international companies who've actually done it before fail at it all the time. I wish them lots of success, but if I were a betting man I'd put money on this being vaporware and the company vanishing in a very stylish puff of dust.
this is a serious concern if you experience that kind of weather (i would hang on to my ICE)
i looked around a bit and depending on who you ask the answers vary
but they're not good especially if you're running the heater (twenty to forty percent?)
and who isn't running heat in freezing temps?
for fun i googled fuel cells and in extreme cold, they can suffer, but not like the battery tech tesla and rivian rely on
toyota and honda seem to be the leaders in this area
i get that this is first rev, but i'd like to see design from tesla more like the rivian
here's their pitch
Good luck to 'em.
They seem to have picked a market niche that's been well explored by other manufacturers: a vehicle pitched to the kind of people who appear in Red Bull ads. Young , hip, environmentally-conscious adventurers with oodles of money. Unfortunately for everyone who's been there before the people in Red Bull ads are imaginary.
There are quite a few people who buy pickup trucks, however, me included. I don't see much here to address the concerns we have. An electric pickup has some appeal: low maintenance, lots of power for things like winches or power tools, potentially really nimble 4WD, low operating costs.
But how much can it tow? How much can it carry? What kind of range does it have when it's -20? Those body panels look like plastic; I get why they might do that (much lower tooling cost than stamped metal, which keeps the investment down) but how well will it hold up to the abuse it will get in the real world? How easy will it be to fix? What's under that bed cover and how easy does it come off? It's the shape of a pickup but does it function like one?
Building trucks is hard. Large, well-funded international companies who've actually done it before fail at it all the time. I wish them lots of success, but if I were a betting man I'd put money on this being vaporware and the company vanishing in a very stylish puff of dust.
That was also my experience when I took a rented Tesla on a 10 day 2500 mile road-trip through Europa. Bottom line of that was: Tesla is fully capable of long-range travel. You might also want to read about this world record: http://www.teslaupdates.co/2016/06/tesla-model-s-p85d-breaks-ev-world.html
PS: Thanks to TuneIn internet radio on the Tesla, we listened to Radio Paradise throughout Europe! :)
I like being able to pull into a gas station when the trip is long. It'll take a lot to convince me that all electric is worth the annoyance and time of pulling over to a supercharger and waiting...and waiting... especially on long trips.
my biz partner has a tesla model s
a nice car with outstanding performance
but long distance travel is out
i could make it work here for my everyday driving
until battery tech gets a lot better and the charging is everywhere people will probably be cautious
is there an industry standard charging connection?
