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howudoin

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Posted: Nov 2, 2016 - 4:31pm

 BillG wrote:

The app uses AAC, at 64k (Med), 128k (High - default), 320k (Max).  I'm definitely not hearing anything I would label "horrible". The audio is processed differently than it is on the web streams — there's less dynamic range compression & coloration, which might take a bit of adjustment. I suspect that if you listen carefully for a while, you'll appreciate the added depth & the lifelike quality of the audio.

The changes in audio processing in the apps actually happened several versions & about 2 years ago. The switch from Ogg to AAC happened about a year or so ago.

Audio quality assessments are very subjective. Two of the most frequent comments I've gotten from the new apps (& web player) are "too much bass" and "not enough bass" :-).

Another thing to note is that comparing the apps to our old player (or any other stream player) is a bit of an apples-&-oranges thing. The skip & seamless PSD features are impossible using streams. The players all actually download & temporarily store individual audio files & then play them back according to very precise instructions.
 
Hi Bill, thanks for your prompt reply and sorry for my delay. I've tested the 3 stream settings in the app and all of them sound the same —- it looks like I'm always using the 'Med' stream (64k AAC). I also compared this to the 64k AAC stream using TuneIn. I'm using my Sennheiser hd 280 pro headphones connected to the Samsung S5. I'm also running version 3.9.9gp of the app. I also tried uninstalling/reinstalling the app with no change. Are there any logs files I can send you to help troubleshoot this problem? Thanks, Vlad
William

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Posted: Oct 31, 2016 - 8:55am

 howudoin wrote:
Hi Bill and dev team, any chance the app can use the AAC or OGG streams? The Low, Med and High options in v3.9.9 seem to use the mp3 streams which sound horrible compared to the AAC and OGG streams. I'm running the app on an Samsung S5, official 6.0.1 build. Thank you!!!

 
The app uses AAC, at 64k (Med), 128k (High - default), 320k (Max).  I'm definitely not hearing anything I would label "horrible". The audio is processed differently than it is on the web streams — there's less dynamic range compression & coloration, which might take a bit of adjustment. I suspect that if you listen carefully for a while, you'll appreciate the added depth & the lifelike quality of the audio.

The changes in audio processing in the apps actually happened several versions & about 2 years ago. The switch from Ogg to AAC happened about a year or so ago.

Audio quality assessments are very subjective. Two of the most frequent comments I've gotten from the new apps (& web player) are "too much bass" and "not enough bass" :-).

Another thing to note is that comparing the apps to our old player (or any other stream player) is a bit of an apples-&-oranges thing. The skip & seamless PSD features are impossible using streams. The players all actually download & temporarily store individual audio files & then play them back according to very precise instructions.

howudoin

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Posted: Oct 31, 2016 - 8:07am

Hi Bill and dev team, any chance the app can use the AAC or OGG streams? The Low, Med and High options in v3.9.9 seem to use the mp3 streams which sound horrible compared to the AAC and OGG streams. I'm running the app on an Samsung S5, official 6.0.1 build. Thank you!!!
wilcogirl11

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Posted: Oct 30, 2016 - 6:27am

 BillG wrote:

You can't do that with the cache-ahead blocks, but you can save a cache block (click 'Add Block' on the cache screen to get started).  Then you can do what you describe.

While playing the cache block, tap PSD, then 'Sync to Web Stream' to return to 'live' RP.  When you tap 'cache' (cloud icon) & select Play on the saved cache block, it will pick up where you left off.  You can have as many cache blocks as you like, limited only by available storage.

On the new versions of the app, there's a 'cache location' option in the settings. That allows you to select your SD card as the cache storage location.

 
Thank you that is exactly what I was looking for! 
William

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Posted: Oct 29, 2016 - 8:43am

 wilcogirl11 wrote:
I have a problem: once I've hit the "play" button for a downloaded block, I cannot stop/pause it and switch back to streaming live, even though I am on wifi. I have even tried closing/reopening the app, closing/force-stopping/reopening the app, and still, hitting the play button simply resumes playing the block, no matter what. It seems the only option at that point would  be to delete the block to get back to live streaming. Is there any remedy for this? I'd really like to be able to switch back and forth between blocks and live-streaming if I want to. Thanks!!!
 
You can't do that with the cache-ahead blocks, but you can save a cache block (click 'Add Block' on the cache screen to get started).  Then you can do what you describe.

While playing the cache block, tap PSD, then 'Sync to Web Stream' to return to 'live' RP.  When you tap 'cache' (cloud icon) & select Play on the saved cache block, it will pick up where you left off.  You can have as many cache blocks as you like, limited only by available storage.

On the new versions of the app, there's a 'cache location' option in the settings. That allows you to select your SD card as the cache storage location.


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Posted: Oct 29, 2016 - 7:07am

I have a problem: once I've hit the "play" button for a downloaded block, I cannot stop/pause it and switch back to streaming live, even though I am on wifi. I have even tried closing/reopening the app, closing/force-stopping/reopening the app, and still, hitting the play button simply resumes playing the block, no matter what. It seems the only option at that point would  be to delete the block to get back to live streaming. Is there any remedy for this? I'd really like to be able to switch back and forth between blocks and live-streaming if I want to. Thanks!!!
William

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Posted: Oct 28, 2016 - 6:53am

 PCPero wrote:
Hi there, I thougt it a good idea updating the R&P app, but it wasn't. Is there anybody out there sending the link to the former one? Please contact pjhome@gmx.net. Thanks in advance, Peter
 
We don't have links to the old version. What problem(s) are you having with the new version? They can probably be resolved. I'd start by deleting the app & reistalling it from the Play Store.
William

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Posted: Oct 28, 2016 - 6:51am

 TonyApuzzo wrote:

Do you or 'ef' want problem reports?  If so, where should I send them?  The 3.9.6 is much improved, but I'm experiencing some problems with song repeats and audio artifacts.

 
Sorry I missed your question.  You can email either/both of us (dev@cratorsoft.com, bill@radioparadise.com).
PCPero

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Posted: Oct 28, 2016 - 3:45am

Hi there, I thougt it a good idea updating the R&P app, but it wasn't. Is there anybody out there sending the link to the former one? Please contact pjhome@gmx.net. Thanks in advance, Peter
TonyApuzzo

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Posted: Oct 23, 2016 - 10:10pm

 BillG wrote:

As per ef's post below (he's our developer), people running Android 7 (like those on Nexus 6) who haven't been updated to the newest version of our app (3.9.6) should scroll down to the bottom of the Play Store entry for our app & join the beta program.

 
Do you or 'ef' want problem reports?  If so, where should I send them?  The 3.9.6 is much improved, but I'm experiencing some problems with song repeats and audio artifacts.
William

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Posted: Oct 21, 2016 - 6:15pm

 bokey wrote:

This site doesn't work well on a Nexus 6.You can't fill the cache.I have no problems with the evil Amazon Fire I got for $18 though,so it's a site issue.

God Bless the DJ'ing though.

 
As per ef's post below (he's our developer), people running Android 7 (like those on Nexus 6) who haven't been updated to the newest version of our app (3.9.6) should scroll down to the bottom of the Play Store entry for our app & join the beta program.
TonyApuzzo

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Posted: Oct 21, 2016 - 2:18pm

 ef wrote:

The new version fixes the problems on Android 7 and is being slowly rolled out. It is not available to everyone yet.  
I believe you can get access now by joining the beta.   You can join the beta from the RP listing in the play store.   The option is right near the bottom.

 
Yay!  You have no idea how happy this makes me to know there is a fix coming soon for Andoid 7 Nougat. I listen to RP in my car every day and the problems for the last few months since Android N preview #2 have been making me depressed.

After the RP app played Fleetwood Mac Hypnotized 5 times in an hour my wife made me listen to FM radio.


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Posted: Oct 21, 2016 - 10:09am

 TonyApuzzo wrote:
I've been experiencing some pretty bad problems with skipping, caching, songs overlapping, caching not working, etc.  I have version 3.5.10 from November 2015.  I see people posting that they are using version 3.9.6.  I don't know how to update my version of the app.  It seems like I'm stuck on an old version.  I've cleared data, uninstalled, reinstalled, etc.  It seems to be something with my account since when I install it on my Android tablet I get the same old version there as well.

I'm using a Nexus 6 running Android 7.0 Nougat so it isn't that I have an old phone or version of Android.

Any suggestions?

 
The new version fixes the problems on Android 7 and is being slowly rolled out. It is not available to everyone yet.  
I believe you can get access now by joining the beta.   You can join the beta from the RP listing in the play store.   The option is right near the bottom.
bokey

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Posted: Oct 20, 2016 - 5:06pm

 TonyApuzzo wrote:
I've been experiencing some pretty bad problems with skipping, caching, songs overlapping, caching not working, etc.  I have version 3.5.10 from November 2015.  I see people posting that they are using version 3.9.6.  I don't know how to update my version of the app.  It seems like I'm stuck on an old version.  I've cleared data, uninstalled, reinstalled, etc.  It seems to be something with my account since when I install it on my Android tablet I get the same old version there as well.

I'm using a Nexus 6 running Android 7.0 Nougat so it isn't that I have an old phone or version of Android.

Any suggestions?

 
This site doesn't work well on a Nexus 6.You can't fill the cache.I have no problems with the evil Amazon Fire I got for $18 though,so it's a site issue.

God Bless the DJ'ing though.


TonyApuzzo

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Posted: Oct 20, 2016 - 3:48pm

I've been experiencing some pretty bad problems with skipping, caching, songs overlapping, caching not working, etc.  I have version 3.5.10 from November 2015.  I see people posting that they are using version 3.9.6.  I don't know how to update my version of the app.  It seems like I'm stuck on an old version.  I've cleared data, uninstalled, reinstalled, etc.  It seems to be something with my account since when I install it on my Android tablet I get the same old version there as well.

I'm using a Nexus 6 running Android 7.0 Nougat so it isn't that I have an old phone or version of Android.

Any suggestions?


anotherdreamer

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Posted: Oct 17, 2016 - 6:43am

 ef wrote:

Not able to reproduce this yet.  I'll keep an eye out for it. 
Did find one issue related to being offline though.
Seems the back to main mix option does nothing when offline. 

thanks for the feedback.

 
After now having upgraded to 0.9.6.gp the issue is gone.
4GibMe

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Posted: Oct 16, 2016 - 12:04am

 mjvander wrote:
re new android app.

I am unable to download a cache block of greater than 4 hrs.  I get" Could not retrieve offline list" error.

Try on two different devices RP ver 3.9.6, android 6.0.1

 
I get the (Could not retrieve offline list), if I go to 12 hours.   If I set it back to 11 hours she down loads.   But since I can download more then one block I can live with that until the bugs are worked out.

I do have a question for the RP people...... Has the bit rate, file size been increased over older versions, when set to max file size?   I have high end audio setup, and the files sound better then in the past.  If so, thanks.
 
mjvander

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Posted: Oct 15, 2016 - 4:27pm

re new android app.

I am unable to download a cache block of greater than 4 hrs.  I get" Could not retrieve offline list" error.

Try on two different devices RP ver 3.9.6, android 6.0.1
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Posted: Oct 12, 2016 - 12:12pm

 anotherdreamer wrote:
After having updated to the new Android RP app version 3.9.5, my offline playlists would only play if on Wifi. While only being on mobile, the first cover would show, but no sound, no reaction to my attempts to skip to the next song.

I then switched back to 3.8.6 and all is working fine again.

Android 6.0.1 on LG G5

 
Not able to reproduce this yet.  I'll keep an eye out for it. 
Did find one issue related to being offline though.
Seems the back to main mix option does nothing when offline. 

thanks for the feedback.


anotherdreamer

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Posted: Oct 12, 2016 - 7:01am

After having updated to the new Android RP app version 3.9.5, my offline playlists would only play if on Wifi. While only being on mobile, the first cover would show, but no sound, no reaction to my attempts to skip to the next song.

I then switched back to 3.8.6 and all is working fine again.

Android 6.0.1 on LG G5
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