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Posted: Apr 5, 2016 - 7:54am

grammar wars
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Posted: Feb 5, 2016 - 11:43am

 meower wrote:

thank you....

is the paragraph better?



 
I think so, yes.
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Posted: Feb 5, 2016 - 11:42am

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:

Right, that's the green comma I added. I agree that the second one can go, because who gives a fuck about an oxford comma? I know it's not a list but the logic for and against a comma before "and" is the same. I left it because it's not egregious to me.

 
I looked and looked and couldn't find the green comma you were referring to to which you were referring.
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Posted: Feb 5, 2016 - 11:41am

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No apostrophe in "populations"
Hyphenate first instance of "evidence-based" 

 
thank you....

is the paragraph better?


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Posted: Feb 5, 2016 - 11:40am

 meower wrote:

As mental health providers, social workers are uniquely interested in integrating social justice efforts into practice, both in the types of treatments provided as well as the populations served. Thus, social workers typically provide services to culturally and socioeconomically diverse populations. Despite the growth in the social work and outpatient mental health professions, there is empirical evidence that most clients in the United States who receive psychotherapy are not being treated with evidence-based practices (Shafran, et al, 2009). Quality of care is particularly low in community mental health settings, which are often staffed by untrained and poorly supervised providers, and feature significant staff attrition. Given the prevalence of social workers in mental health practice and the state of available care, training social workers in the provision of quality mental health care would be good for overall public health. Further, in light of social workers’ tendency toward working with underserved populations, training social workers in evidence-based practices is a social justice issue. Without such training, high quality care becomes something that can only be accessed by those who are well-resourced.  



 
No apostrophe in "populations"
Hyphenate first instance of "evidence-based" 
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Posted: Feb 5, 2016 - 11:34am

As mental health providers, social workers are uniquely interested in integrating social justice efforts into practice, both in the types of treatments provided as well as the population’s served. Thus, social workers typically provide services to culturally and socioeconomically diverse populations. Despite the growth in the social work and outpatient mental health professions, there is empirical evidence that most clients in the United States who receive psychotherapy are not being treated with evidence based practices (Shafran, et al, 2009). Quality of care is particularly low in community mental health settings, which are often staffed by untrained and poorly supervised providers, and feature significant staff attrition. Given the prevalence of social workers in mental health practice and the state of available care, training social workers in the provision of quality mental health care would be good for overall public health. Further, in light of social workers’ tendency toward working with underserved populations, training social workers in evidence-based practices is a social justice issue. Without such training, high quality care becomes something that can only be accessed by those who are well-resourced.  


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Posted: Feb 5, 2016 - 11:29am

 K_Love wrote:

That's a good point.

Also, after reading it again, I think there should be a comma in this sentence after "practice" and the one after "provide" is not needed. I would only put a comma in front of "and" if it were the last item in list of more than 2 items (the types of treatment we provide, second list item, and the populations we serve). 

We are uniquely interested in integrating social justice efforts into our practice both in the types of treatment we provide, and the populations we serve. 

We are uniquely interested in integrating social justice efforts into our practice, both in the types of treatment we provide and the populations we serve.  

 
Right, that's the green comma I added. I agree that the second one can go, because who gives a fuck about an oxford comma? I know it's not a list but the logic for and against a comma before "and" is the same. I left it because it's not egregious to me.
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Posted: Feb 5, 2016 - 11:23am

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I don't like the word TEND. either you provide services or you don't.

 
They're not saying they "tend to provide services," they're saying the populations they provide services to tend to be culturally and socioeconomically diverse. But that's not a given. The provider might specialize in one population, or live/work in an area that doesn't provide much diversity.
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Posted: Feb 5, 2016 - 11:09am

 JrzyTmata wrote:
I don't like the word TEND. either you provide services or you don't.

 
That's a good point.

Also, after reading it again, I think there should be a comma in this sentence after "practice" and the one after "provide" is not needed. I would only put a comma in front of "and" if it were the last item in list of more than 2 items (the types of treatment we provide, second list item, and the populations we serve). 

We are uniquely interested in integrating social justice efforts into our practice both in the types of treatment we provide, and the populations we serve. 

We are uniquely interested in integrating social justice efforts into our practice, both in the types of treatment we provide and the populations we serve.  


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Posted: Feb 5, 2016 - 11:00am

I don't like the word TEND. either you provide services or you don't.
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Posted: Feb 5, 2016 - 10:28am

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:

It's not as bad as all that, except for one sentence. Even then, the commas are justifiable but Scott's Rule of Reasonableness says the ones in red can go. Meaning they're technically okay but they interfere with understanding. If you drop them, the meaning doesn't change.

I added the green one tho, so...  

 
I agree that the ones in red can go, especially the ones before and after "in the United States." They make the sentence look and sound awkward to me.
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Posted: Feb 5, 2016 - 10:24am

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Social Workers tend to provide services to culturally and socioeconomically diverse populations. We are uniquely interested in integrating social justice efforts into our practice both in the types of treatment we provide, and the populations we serve. Despite the growth in the social work and outpatient mental health professions, there is empirical evidence that most clients, in the United States, who receive psychotherapy, are not being treated with evidence-based practices (Shafran, et al, 2009). Quality of care is particularly low in community mental health settings, which are often staffed by untrained and poorly supervised providers, and feature significant staff attrition. Given the prevalence of social workers in mental health practice, and the state of available care, training for social workers providing mental health care is a public health good. Further, in light of social workers’ tendency toward working with underserved populations, training social workers in evidence-based practices is a social justice issue. Without such training, high quality care becomes something that can only be accessed by those who are well-resourced.  

 

 

aren't there WAY Too many commas here?  I'm editing something and this person, I think, adds too many, commas, I'm wondering, do you agree?



 
"evidence-based" should be hyphenated. It already was in the second instance but not the first.
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Posted: Feb 5, 2016 - 10:02am

 meower wrote:

Social Workers tend to provide services to culturally and socioeconomically diverse populations. We are uniquely interested in integrating social justice efforts into our practice, both in the types of treatment we provide, and the populations we serve. Despite the growth in the social work and outpatient mental health professions, there is empirical evidence that most clients, in the United States,  who receive psychotherapy, are not being treated with evidence based practices (Shafran, et al, 2009). Quality of care is particularly low in community mental health settings, which are often staffed by untrained and poorly supervised providers, and feature significant staff attrition. Given the prevalence of social workers in mental health practice, and the state of available care, training for social workers providing mental health care is a public health good. Further, in light of social workers’ tendency toward working with underserved populations, training social workers in evidence-based practices is a social justice issue. Without such training, high quality care becomes something that can only be accessed by those who are well-resourced.  

 

 

aren't there WAY Too many commas here?  I'm editing something and this person, I think, adds too many, commas, I'm wondering, do you agree?



 
It's not as bad as all that, except for one sentence. Even then, the commas are justifiable but Scott's Rule of Reasonableness says the ones in red can go. Meaning they're technically okay but they interfere with understanding. If you drop them, the meaning doesn't change.

I added the green one tho, so...  
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Posted: Feb 5, 2016 - 7:46am

 meower wrote:

wanna help me edit?



 
Send me a PM; I could look it over if you'd like.
 


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Posted: Feb 5, 2016 - 7:39am

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is this part of the promotion?

 
it's all part of the new position yes. I'll edit it, I actually like to edit.... but the subject matter is very close and it's hard to see the grammar errors... plus, we've been working on this document for so long, using it for a variety of purposes and this latest installment is VERY VERY important as it may lead to some $$
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Posted: Feb 5, 2016 - 7:35am

 meower wrote:

wanna help me edit?



 
is this part of the promotion?
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Posted: Feb 5, 2016 - 7:34am

 Proclivities wrote:

It seems like a daunting enough task to write about such a serious subject.

 
wanna help me edit?


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Posted: Feb 5, 2016 - 7:31am

 meower wrote:

well, considering I didn't have to write the original document, I guess I should be happy.

 
It seems like a daunting enough task to write about such a serious subject.
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Posted: Feb 5, 2016 - 7:15am

 Coaxial wrote:

{#Drunk}That's enough to make you want to day drink...How did you get to be the lucky one to do the editing? Draw the short straw?
 
well, considering I didn't have to write the original document, I guess I should be happy.
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Posted: Feb 5, 2016 - 7:09am

 meower wrote:
and, that's just one paragraph....

 
{#Drunk}That's enough to make you want to day drink...How did you get to be the lucky one to do the editing? Draw the short straw?

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